Buffalo03 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Is it possible that he is being told not to audible? I just can't understand. I find it hard to believe that when a run play gets called in for Tolbert on 2nd and 15 that he isn't thinking about changing the play. This offense is way to predictable. When you see 8 or 9 in the box don't run it up the middle. Change the play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Slow eyes. Short body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 He is unable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) He thinks he can run out of a bad situation...... Remember before the season, the coaches saying they couldn't wait to "unleash" Taylor? What a joke. Edited November 12, 2017 by Azucho98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Either cant read the defense to audible or not allowed to audible. Both not good for a 3 year starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1) either he isn't allowed to audible because they don't trust him or 2) maybe he doesn't know how to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Maybe throwing a catchable football is a first concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 You can't blame the scheme. 3 OC's now have decided its best not to let him audible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, fridge said: You can't blame the scheme. 3 OC's now have decided its best not to let him audible. I get what you're saying but he can't possibly think that running the ball on second and long especially to Tolbert is a good idea. He can't possibly be that bad to not be able to see that the box is being stacked and that our offense is predictable enough to not change the play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said: I get what you're saying but he can't possibly think that running the ball on second and long especially to Tolbert is a good idea. He can't possibly be that bad to not be able to see that the box is being stacked and that our offense is predictable enough to not change the play now that is has been three years you can start really saying yeah he really is that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 It’s only his 7th year in the league and 3rd as a starter. These things take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 When they won we could live with this incompetence, even with tough losses, but not any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, fridge said: You can't blame the scheme. 3 OC's now have decided its best not to let him audible. & yet Peterman comes in and calls audibles at the line - kind of supports what we've all been saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: now that is has been three years you can start really saying yeah he really is that bad Exactly! Show me one QB that has called an audible before their 35th birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDVA Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 If he went to the University of Virginia he could audible, alas he went to Virginia Tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 If our bye or our "mini-bye" came later in the year, I think it would be even more tempting to make the switch. Peterman looked competent against the NO shell defense at the end, but I am always reticent to assess a player based on those situations. I thought it was VERY interesting that McD let Rico open up the offense with Peterman in the game. If they were protecting against a QB controversy, they should have handed the ball to Tolbert three more times and called in Schmidt to punt once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Very simple: HE CANT read defences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Slow eyes, slower processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 15 Wonderlich score. Just sayin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, Billznut said: 15 Wonderlich score. Just sayin Didn't the Wonderlich twins miss out on Facebook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Did he look anywhere except at the open man 6 yards away on those 5 or 6 checkdowns on 3rd and 15?? maybe the Bills think the man is going to beat the 4 defenders that swarm the receiver immediately? it is a strategy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: Is it possible that he is being told not to audible? I just can't understand. I find it hard to believe that when a run play gets called in for Tolbert on 2nd and 15 that he isn't thinking about changing the play. This offense is way to predictable. When you see 8 or 9 in the box don't run it up the middle. Change the play Hes following the philosophy if he can audible. The problem is our head coach and OC are ok with this philosophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, fridge said: You can't blame the scheme. 3 OC's now have decided its best not to let him audible. Not a great indictment on TT's inability to audible out. In 3 years I've never seen him do it once. Cut your loses and start developing Nate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 he can't read the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 I did find it interesting that Peterman ran the no huddle very efficiently. He would complete a pass and get them right back up to the line within 15 seconds. It takes Tyrod 30 seconds to do that. I guess he really is bad. I've stuck up for him for a long time but I'm done with that today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 45 minutes ago, KW95 said: Very simple: HE CANT read defences 2 minutes ago, Yeezus said: he can't read the defense. Let me just say: the British spelling makes the first comment far more convincing than the second. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: Is it possible that he is being told not to audible? I just can't understand. I find it hard to believe that when a run play gets called in for Tolbert on 2nd and 15 that he isn't thinking about changing the play. This offense is way to predictable. When you see 8 or 9 in the box don't run it up the middle. Change the play He can't. The poor boy was born without a tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Tyrod has deeper mental issues. He's afraid to make mistakes which he doesn't realize is, by doing that, he makes mistakes... He doesn't throw the ball for fear of throwing interceptions and he doesn't audible cuz he's afraid of a delay of game. 56 yards gentlemen and ladies... 50 freakin 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: Slow eyes, slower processing. Are you saying he's not trusting the processing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, BillnutinHouston said: Are you saying he's not trusting the processing? Im saying he doesn't know how to process. Dim bulb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 My understanding is Tyrod is not allowed to audible. I thought I remember when Dennison was with Denver and Payton Manning was the QB, it was a point of contention between the two of them. But since Payton Manning is who he is, Payton was able to audible, but did not call his own plays like he did in past seasons pre-Dennison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Like others have stated, he thinks he is athletic enough to free lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: My understanding is Tyrod is not allowed to audible. I thought I remember when Dennison was with Denver and Payton Manning was the QB, it was a point of contention between the two of them. But since Payton Manning is who he is, Payton was able to audible, but did not call his own plays like he did in past seasons pre-Dennison. But yet Petterman did. So which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Better to see the primary receiver isn’t five yards wide open and scramble for his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: But yet Petterman did. So which is it? You sure? I don't recall that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: You sure? I don't recall that. Yep. The 3rd and one Pitch was a kill call. Clearly heard the kill kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: Yep. The 3rd and one Pitch was a kill call. Clearly heard the kill kill Wow, if that's true, Tyrod has multiple reasons to be pissed about today. Surprised he allowed Peterman to do this, but it was also garbage time so not a lot to lose if he effed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Wow, if that's true, Tyrod has multiple reasons to be pissed about today. Surprised he allowed Peterman to do this, but it was also garbage time so not a lot to lose if he effed up. Tt is allowed to audible it has been said a couple times this year by both TT and Dennison So in September he was allowed to audible of course he is allowed to now Jerry Sullivan of The Buffalo News spoke with Taylor this week about the topic. Here’s what the QB had to say in response: "We're getting to that. As you progress in the offense, as I progress in my relationship with Rick (OC Rick Dennison), the comfort level of him allowing me to do that. On the certain packages we definitely have plays that I can audible (out of), but it's not a free-range thing every play." Edited November 13, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: Tt is allowed to audible it has been said a couple times this year by both TT and Dennison I suppose I stand corrected. I thought there were discussions about this several weeks ago and the conclusion was he didn't have that kind of latitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: I suppose I stand corrected. I thought there were discussions about this several weeks ago and the conclusion was he didn't have that kind of latitude. He has it. In terms of how much is debated but he does have it just doesnt ever audible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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