OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 First round rookie Garrett Bolles is the Broncos' LT. I'm calling straight BS on this Glenn to Denver "rumor". ....LMAO....rates right up there with the FACTUAL stuff about their TT interest, right??............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Hey what does Seantrel use to treat his medical condition? The same thing that's legal in Colorado! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Hey what does Seantrel use to treat his medical condition? The same thing that's legal in Colorado! Not permitted by the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Has Pegula transformed into Ralph? Glenn cost the Bills a 2nd rounder in 2012 and plays easily like a top 1st rd pick when healthy. We don't need that though right? Edited October 20, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Who trades a quality starting LT? Oh wait, the Bills do. First they let go of Tyrods best receiver. Now his best o-line man. Maybe next they will take his sneakers and make him play barefoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 clear out cap space cordy is the 2nd highest paid O-lineman in the league he's not the 2nd most talented Had to check on this because I thought there was no way it was true but you're right. I'd be perfectly okay with a Glenn trade. Not permitted by the NFL. Because...why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Had to check on this because I thought there was no way it was true but you're right. I'd be perfectly okay with a Glenn trade. Except he's not. Glenn is not the 2nd highest paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Had to check on this because I thought there was no way it was true but you're right. I'd be perfectly okay with a Glenn trade. Because...why? So you're okay with $18.5M in dead cap? There's a little thing in the NFL called substance abuse as governed by the CBA. You know? The thing that had Henderson suspended for 10 games. Edited October 20, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Who trades a quality starting LT? Oh wait, the Bills do. First they let go of Tyrods best receiver. Now his best o-line man. Maybe next they will take his sneakers and make him play barefoot? This new regime is building a roster they want, not what Whaley or other regimes envisioned. And I still think some fans are vastly overrating Glenn. If anything Peters was the guy we should have kept, Glenn is nowhere close to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Because...why? Because the NFL's primary sponsors (read: beer companies) don't want the league legitimizing their competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) This new regime is building a roster they want, not what Whaley or other regimes envisioned. And I still think some fans are vastly overrating Glenn. If anything Peters was the guy we should have kept, Glenn is nowhere close to him. Does he play like a top 10 left tackle when healthy - Yes or No? I can give a crap what they "envision". I envision drafting a shiny new QB who is going to need a solid O-line and WR's. Edited October 20, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Does he play like a top 10 tackle when healthy - Yes or No? IMO no, but he's certainly not terrible. I would probably grade him out somewhere as the top 15 - 20 player at his position, hence the reason his contract is inflated and obviously this new regime shares a similar sentiment if they want to unload him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 There's a little thing in the NFL called substance abuse as governed by the CBA. You know? The thing that had Henderson suspended for 10 games. No ****, Sherlock. Because the NFL's primary sponsors (read: beer companies) don't want the league legitimizing their competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 No ****, Sherlock. You asked the dumb question not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (Benjamin Albright, a legit insider). Again. Not an insider at all. Just a guy who agents plant stories with. He's no more legit than Mr. "I swear on my kids grave" from a few years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Again. Not an insider at all. Just a guy who agents plant stories with. He's no more legit than Mr. "I swear on my kids grave" from a few years ago... Albright didn't mention Glenn. That was Walter Football who made the leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Except he's not. Glenn is not the 2nd highest paid Well, actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 It would be way cool if we trade all of our good players. Next man down. Trust the prospect. Minus one Buffalo. LOL winner. You got this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 clear out cap space cordy is the 2nd highest paid O-lineman in the league he's not the 2nd most talented That's overstating it a bit. His average pay puts him 5th among left tackles, and as usual dropping down the list as years pass. He's paid as an above average LT, not as the second best lineman in the league. Well, actually... A single year cap hit is low in the ways I'd rank pay in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Well, actually... Cap hit is not contract. If I was DC Tom I would include 'stupid' in that sentence, but I'll just bite my tongue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 A single year cap hit is low in the ways I'd rank pay in the league. To each their own but cap hit should be all that matters to a fan. He'll be the third highest cap hit next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Can anyone point me to where "the new coaching staff has expressed frustration" with Glenn? I have read, in multiple threads, that Glenn isn't all in with "the process", in McBean's doghouse, etc. Where is this coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Cap hit is not contract. If I was DC Tom I would include 'stupid' in that sentence, but I'll just bite my tongue... Who gives a ****, stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passepartout Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Yeah as really think it is this time over in the month of the season whether to trade players or not. They think are expendable there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Can anyone point me to where "the new coaching staff has expressed frustration" with Glenn? I have read, in multiple threads, that Glenn isn't all in with "the process", in McBean's doghouse, etc. Where is this coming from? It's mostly people jumping to conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 It's mostly people jumping to conclusions. I believe you are probably correct. But when someone says the coaches EXPRESSED frustration, there ought to be something to point to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Cap hit is not contract. If I was DC Tom I would include 'stupid' in that sentence, but I'll just bite my tongue... So how can you have a cap hit if it isn't a part of a contract? You can't... so if anyone is being stupid it is certainly not Wayne Arnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I believe you are probably correct. But when someone says the coaches EXPRESSED frustration, there ought to be something to point to. I guess they expressed frustration by making Glenn active and still starting Dawkins over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Can anyone point me to where "the new coaching staff has expressed frustration" with Glenn? I have read, in multiple threads, that Glenn isn't all in with "the process", in McBean's doghouse, etc. Where is this coming from? He's the 2nd highest paid player on the team and we aren't getting anything from him this year. Factor in the injury issues the few years and he certainly appears to be a player on the decline. Who knows what's really happening behind closed doors at One Bills Drive but you have to believe he's on Beane and McD's radar, but not in a good way similar to Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 To each their own but cap hit should be all that matters to a fan. He'll be the third highest cap hit next year. Weird, right? When you pick the two highest years of his cap hit and we are alread half way through one of them. And of course those are high hits because of that amortized signing bonus that would create all that dead space since we already paid the cash. You are correct that hit is important but if you ignore the mapping of the cash your going to make poor decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I guess they expressed frustration by making Glenn active and still starting Dawkins over him. Wrong take unless McDermott is BSing with his explanation as to why that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 To each their own but cap hit should be all that matters to a fan. He'll be the third highest cap hit next year. I don't know why a fan would care about the cap anyway. Seems like a waste of energy, but I guess that's what being a fan is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 So how can you have a cap hit if it isn't a part of a contract? You can't... so if anyone is being stupid it is certainly not Wayne Arnold. His point was that judging a guys pay by a single cap hit is like judging a qb by his rating on the third drive of each game alone. Gives you some of the story but why not look at the big picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 .....why the rush to get rid of Glenn anyway?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Weird, right? When you pick the two highest years of his cap hit and we are alread half way through one of them. And of course those are high hits because of that amortized signing bonus that would create all that dead space since we already paid the cash. You are correct that hit is important but if you ignore the mapping of the cash your going to make poor decision. 9th in 2019. 8th in 2020. He's not even worth that right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 The bills never ask for too much. They typically ask for too little. Exactly. They want Cordy's salary gone ASAP, and as the trade deadline approaches, they'll probably be willing to take a fourth rounder for him ... like they did for Marshawn. They're probably stuck with Dareus, though, because they've made their desperation to unload his $$$ so obvious, no other NFL team will ante up a pick for him when they know he'll be available on waivers in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 You have no idea of the value of things Our OL being shaky is the single biggest problem we have going on right now......not RB....not WR.....NOT QB Glenn manning that LT spot and Dawkins at RT solidifies that OL This is how you see it. I am not saying you are totally wrong, however if the staff knows something we don't I will trust them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Can anyone point me to where "the new coaching staff has expressed frustration" with Glenn? I have read, in multiple threads, that Glenn isn't all in with "the process", in McBean's doghouse, etc. Where is this coming from? Apparently, part of the new Bills "process" is to trade players who get injured as soon as they show they're recovered. I guess they expressed frustration by making Glenn active and still starting Dawkins over him. Glenn is injured He had a foot injury during the preseason, and then injured his ankle in a game. .....why the rush to get rid of Glenn anyway?..... The delusional Bills HC thinks that the Bills have 5 "quality" OTs on the roster, so why spend $$$ paying the most expensive one when he can be turned into another draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2017 - 2nd highest cap hit 2018 - 3rd highest cap hit 2019 - 9th highest cap hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 If Buffalo gets any less than a 1rst round pick they're getting scammed. If Glenn entered the draft next year, he'd have a reasonabl;e shot at going #1 overall. Proven strong left tackle in a league always on the hunt for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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