Game Manager Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Tank is back on !! Let Tyrod throw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 This is a TT loss. Plain and simple. Inability to execute the offense and 6 pts off 3 turnovers should not won't spell the end of the TT experiment. this wasn't a bad game by TT, it was an affirmation for this staff of the limitations they've seen on film the last two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Tank is back on !! Let Tyrod throw it. Zay what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 The BBMB used to be too after a loss. Always made me wonder why they watched in the first place. You win some you, lose some, people need to recognize that. and these folks that come here with these hot takes wonder why the garbage in the other places got to be so bad... now they're here to stink up our place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Who would Peterman throw to exactly? Someone who might be able to catch the ball given a half decent throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Weve been watching this team lose some for far too long. So hair on fire hyperbole is the answer? Sorry, just do not understand that as a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 So hair on fire hyperbole is the answer? Sorry, just do not understand that as a response. The whole you win some and lose some rhetoric is weak and old at this point. Thats what you tell children who dont know any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 It isnt just Taylor. The whole offense is terrible. It is too conservative with no talent catching the ball or behind McCoy. The Oline cannot protect Taylor on a regular basis and they have trouble opening holes in the run game. I watch other teams and QB;s have pockets to throw from and complete passes to no name players. The Bengals Oline is nothing special but didnt give up sacks. The Bengals have a good defense but were missing two starting CB's. I think everyone on here knew the Bills would get into a situation where the defense had a let down and the offense isnt good enough to score touchdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 i would not say the tyrod is terrible. i would say he is limited. and if he is your qb, you had better design a game plan the utilizes his strengths and masks his weaknesses. which today...they did not. also, the losses of clay and matthews suck, bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) He is who he is High % around 200 yards a game a couple sacks a nice run here and there and low turnover numbers If your team is stacked he might get you a playoff berth but you aren't winning it all with a guy who cannot pass consistently Edited October 8, 2017 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 and these folks that come here with these hot takes wonder why the garbage in the other places got to be so bad... now they're here to stink up our place. I like this place (most days). In 5+ years on the BBMB I didn't have half the posts I do here in just a few months. It is just the crazy after a loss that bothers me (and I would not doubt it came from the people who came over from the old site. I wish there was an answer.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 On that last drive, he took a sack after great pass protection and not seeing the open WR on the hook route! He has guys to throw to, has open people he doesn't see, or simply overthrows his target far too often. When that doesn't happen, QB's get yards added to their stats. People say "yards don't matter," but they ignore that the yards are a result of competent QB play! Think about that drive one more time, we know we NEED to get a 1st down with the game on the line. Tyrod takes an unecessary sack, ok...so obviously the next play is crucial to be successful. What does he do? Dump pass to the RB who's behind the line of scrimmage........ Guys, that is not ok with the game on the line! No urgency whatsoever! Whether the pick happened or not, you could clearly see where that drive was going - nowhere. The entire second half we only had drives extended via penalties from the Bengals! Late in the 4th we had only managed 34 yards at one point! After an amazing kick return + a personal foul penalty tacked on, we go backwards a couple plays, followed by a dump pass. We had every opportunity to score, but nope. We botched 100% of our offensive possessions. Even if we manage a winning record this season, it's clearly in spite of our offense. Stop ignoring pertinent data, relevant statistics, and what you see with your own eyes just because of our W/L record. Coaches don't! They point out the areas they need to improve, they see the flaws and try to address them. The fans however latch on to a single player and blindly ride into battle to defend them no matter what. Doesn't matter who that QB is, they will always have their loyal supporters who blame everyone else. We've seen it with EJ Manuel, JP Losman, Kelly Holcomb, Trent Edwards, Kyle Orton, Matt Cassell, Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jeff Tuel, hell...even Brian Brohm! We as fans should definitely be supportive of our team and each other, but there's no reason to lie about these guys. Failing to address their issues makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Can we accept a loss without all the insults to fellow Bill fans? I mean seriously ... Edited October 8, 2017 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Not sure Peterman is ready, but the lack of offensive production has been mainly due to TT. Those last few plays were some of the worst we've seen from him. Of course, missing Clay sucked. Dropped passes and holding penalties didn't help. But the open passes that are left on the field are all on Taylor and would've made a big difference today. He's gotta get the ball out to those open WRs. losing Clay, on top of no Matthews, put TT in an incredibly bad spot. Logan penalty on Shady's long run was a killer. Clay doesn't do that. I am still good with these guys. They could have easily won this game down a half dozen starters. I like 'em. Go get healthy everyone and see you in two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 The whole you win some and lose some rhetoric is weak and old at this point. Thats what you tell children who dont know any better. ?? You tell them that you cannot win every game. That is what children should be learning. Temper tantrums do not solve anything. There are ups and down in sports. Unfortunately, the Bills have been on the downside for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 He is who he is High % around 200 yards a game a couple sacks a nice run here and there and low turnover numbers If your team is stacked he might get you a playoff berth but you aren't winning it all with a guy who cannot pass consistently That sounds like 7-9 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) ?? You tell them that you cannot win every game. That is what children should be learning. Temper tantrums do not solve anything. There are ups and down in sports. Unfortunately, the Bills have been on the downside for a long time.Lets never be critical of anything then. Cant win em all. The offense sucks? Dont worry guys we cant win em all. Its nonsense. Edited October 8, 2017 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 This is a TT loss. Plain and simple. Inability to execute the offense and 6 pts off 3 turnovers should not won't spell the end of the TT experiment. this wasn't a bad game by TT, it was an affirmation for this staff of the limitations they've seen on film the last two seasons. Fair assessment. Dennison's vanilla play calling in the second half didn't do the offense any favors (where was the moving pocket?), but more likely reflects the lack of options in TT's route tree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Name me another QB with similar W-L record as Tyrod when throwing 30 attempts.......I'd love to hear some of those stellar names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Seriously. Stop the man-love and see Tyrod for what he is which is an below to average QB. His number one attribute was his mobility but he had feet of concrete today. I'm good with Peterman. End this experiment NOW and let's move forward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 On that last drive, he took a sack after great pass protection and not seeing the open WR on the hook route! He has guys to throw to, has open people he doesn't see, or simply overthrows his target far too often. When that doesn't happen, QB's get yards added to their stats. People say "yards don't matter," but they ignore that the yards are a result of competent QB play! Think about that drive one more time, we know we NEED to get a 1st down with the game on the line. Tyrod takes an unecessary sack, ok...so obviously the next play is crucial to be successful. What does he do? Dump pass to the RB who's behind the line of scrimmage........ Guys, that is not ok with the game on the line! No urgency whatsoever! Whether the pick happened or not, you could clearly see where that drive was going - nowhere. The entire second half we only had drives extended via penalties from the Bengals! Late in the 4th we had only managed 34 yards at one point! After an amazing kick return + a personal foul penalty tacked on, we go backwards a couple plays, followed by a dump pass. We had every opportunity to score, but nope. We botched 100% of our offensive possessions. Even if we manage a winning record this season, it's clearly in spite of our offense. Stop ignoring pertinent data, relevant statistics, and what you see with your own eyes just because of our W/L record. Coaches don't! They point out the areas they need to improve, they see the flaws and try to address them. The fans however latch on to a single player and blindly ride into battle to defend them no matter what. Doesn't matter who that QB is, they will always have their loyal supporters who blame everyone else. We've seen it with EJ Manuel, JP Losman, Kelly Holcomb, Trent Edwards, Kyle Orton, Matt Cassell, Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jeff Tuel, hell...even Brian Brohm! We as fans should definitely be supportive of our team and each other, but there's no reason to lie about these guys. Failing to address their issues makes no sense. Taylor knew the game was over, he threw that completion to Shady because he was just working on his QBR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 It's not like Tyrod doesn't have a body of work He is consistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 It's not like Tyrod doesn't have a body of work He is consistent Consistently inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 He stayed in the pocket to many times today. If Taylor can learn when to run vs stay and throw he will be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Sal MaioranaVerified account @salmaiorana 54m54 minutes ago More The Bills have no receivers. There's almost never anyone open. That, and Dawkins got beat clean one on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Manager Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Sal MaioranaVerified account @salmaiorana 54m54 minutes ago More The Bills have no receivers. There's almost never anyone open. That, and Dawkins got beat clean one on one. Excuse king. Party of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Tank is back on !! Let Tyrod throw it. He'll be fine. It's the O-lines fault for not being able to hold D-line for 5 minutes while he makes a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Excuse king. Party of one. Ha ha sure thing. I guess Dalton didn't need AJ green either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Consistently inconsistent Consistently loses when attempting 30 or more passes.....Now 1-11 in games with 30 or more attempts. That's putrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Not a big fan of TT at all. Maybe next we will get a better QB. Next what? Next game? Next season? Next decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Haterade: the drink of losers since 1960. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Brisett passed for 314 yards in the Colts win today Hoyer had over 300 This is 2017 not 1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 All games get like this. You need a Qb you can trust on that "last drive." Can you trust TT? Then why is he there. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Sigh. Can a message board be diagnosed as bipolar schizophrenic? Because I really think this place needs a prescription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 He is who he is High % around 200 yards a game a couple sacks a nice run here and there and low turnover numbers If your team is stacked he might get you a playoff berth but you aren't winning it all with a guy who cannot pass consistently Watch out, the Kool Aid Krowd will label you a low information troll if you keep posting like this. Never mind the fact that probably half the board agrees with you, if not more. Sigh. Can a message board be diagnosed as bipolar schizophrenic? Because I really think this place needs a prescription. In what way is it bipolar? There is a contingent here who has always said Tyrod is a weakness who needs to be replaced. Then there is a group who think he is just fine. What's bipolar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Tyrod has no business being a starting QB in this league. Leave Tyrod in there and we will go to last place in our division real quick, then maybe McD & Beanne will realize they don't know everything. Peterman Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 The offense is terrible. We cant even run the ball now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 All games get like this. You need a Qb you can trust on that "last drive." Can you trust TT? Then why is he there. Next. We need healthy WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Haterade: the drink of losers since 1960. What are you trying to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Tyrod would be the perfect backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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