dollars 2 donuts Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) We all know that loss was the obvious lynch pin for them to say, "OK, we were dreadful on offense (still) and we are going to continue to get pummeled very soon if we don't change things up." If Zay and TT connect on that pass in the Carolina game, and we start 2-0, I honestly think this team really could be 2-2 now as they would have likely stayed the course at that point. What say you? Edited October 4, 2017 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I say they're 3-1 and hypotheticals are just that, hypothetical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 What if this was that and that was this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 If "if"s and "but"s were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 If we don't have Stephen Hauschka then we are 1-3. That guy has been money. I think we are getting spoiled. People now expect him to hit from 55+ every time and that's asking a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 If we don't have Stephen Hauschka then we are 1-3. That guy has been money. I think we are getting spoiled. People now expect him to hit from 55+ every time and that's asking a lot Tank Hope Dying Hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 the nihilism and defeatism is deeply ingrained into Bills fans now. So much so that after a 3-1 start there's way less celebrating and way, way more "yes, but" and "we won, but" and "this isn't sustainable" It's like, how do you even enjoy anything anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 To say we should have won that game must say Atlanta should have won that game. That's the way the dice roll. Good teams don't let those chances come up. Atlanta is a good team and we saw what happened when the dice were rolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 Back to the question, which I should have made clearer...I should have put it in the title...oh wait... Was the loss to Carolina a good loss, in that it changed our offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 What if this was that and that was this? If "if"s and "but"s were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. The more we know that we don't know, the more we know we know, you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) What if this was that and that was this? What if C-A-T really spelled dog? Edited October 4, 2017 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Why does cyclops have three eyes? He just does, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsnut Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 If "if"s and "but"s were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. And if my Aunt had balls, she would be my Uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Finkel is Einhorn. And Einhorn is Finkel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 We all know that loss was the obvious lynch pin for them to say, "OK, we were dreadful on offense (still) and we are going to continue to get pummeled very soon if we don't change things up." If Zay and TT connect on that pass in the Carolina game, and we start 2-0, I honestly think this team really could be 2-2 now as they would have likely stayed the course at that point. What say you? If they had no desire to improve from one game to the next you might have a point about being 2-2 but since they always look for ways to get better I would say no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 We all know that loss was the obvious lynch pin for them to say, "OK, we were dreadful on offense (still) and we are going to continue to get pummeled very soon if we don't change things up." If Zay and TT connect on that pass in the Carolina game, and we start 2-0, I honestly think this team really could be 2-2 now as they would have likely stayed the course at that point. What say you? Hypothetical's really are just that. But regardless for the sake of fun no I don't think they are 2-2 they are 3-1 or 4-0. McD and Dennison have said each week is its own gameplan and how they dictate their plan is based off each opponent. Dennison straight up said they wanted to take shots and be aggressive this week because it was to their benefit and against DEN Tyrod was better in a 7 step drop then a 3 with that pass rush. Even if they won that CAR game changes on O were needed anyway with how poor the O played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Back to the question, which I should have made clearer...I should have put it in the title...oh wait... Was the loss to Carolina a good loss, in that it changed our offense? Taylor took what the opposition gave him and protected the football in all 4 games. The Bills O is a work in progress and will continue to improve over time in my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 i agree w the OP. The week leading up to Denver there probably was a more critical eye on the offensive gameplan, and you could see the play calling step shift toward TTs strengths (rolling out, play action, short / intermediate drag routes). Maybe they would have done that anyways bc opponent dictates it, but I think if we were 2-0 they would have thought "if it aint broke dont fix it" rather than "we need to change it up". Have no idea if that would have meant we win or lose the next games, too many variables to guess at that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 If we don't have Stephen Hauschka then we are 1-3. That guy has been money. I think we are getting spoiled. People now expect him to hit from 55+ every time and that's asking a lot What do you mean "if we don't have"? We do have him and he's made important kicks. What exactly is your point when pointing to an if that isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 With a strong defense you are in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 What do you mean "if we don't have"? We do have him and he's made important kicks. What exactly is your point when pointing to an if that isn't? Haha that's what this whole thread is about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 If he makes that catch, then the Bills fly out of there feeling lucky, but there's no way they could be complacent about the offense after such a dismal performance. In short, if he makes the catch, we'd be a 4-0 team that deserves to be 3-1, and I'm pretty sure McD sees it the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Why does cyclops have three eyes? He just does, man. Cyclops shoots lasers out of his eyes. Chop up a line and get with the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Cyclops shoots lasers out of his eyes. Chop up a line and get with the times. Need to get me some good chop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Haha that's what this whole thread is about That's what every thread is about for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 That's what every thread is about for you. Ok then. You miss the entire point of the whole thread and then personally attack. Having a bad night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 If "if"s and "but"s were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. If they were fruits and nuts we'd all be living in california Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 If we don't have Stephen Hauschka then we are 1-3. That guy has been money. I think we are getting spoiled. People now expect him to hit from 55+ every time and that's asking a lot It certainly is. Hes Hau$ch though. Anyone miss DC yet? haha. Loved this pickup from day 1. Hell I might end up with his jersey he continues like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 the nihilism and defeatism is deeply ingrained into Bills fans now. So much so that after a 3-1 start there's way less celebrating and way, way more "yes, but" and "we won, but" and "this isn't sustainable" It's like, how do you even enjoy anything anymore? You don't until they make playoffs ... then complain about the performance in playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Back to the question, which I should have made clearer...I should have put it in the title...oh wait... Was the loss to Carolina a good loss, in that it changed our offense? If it took that loss for Denison to figure out TT and the offense, then God help us. Did they not watch the tape of the last 32 games? Probably not, because they traded away the only deep threat. Clay is playing great. Contract year????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 If we don't have Stephen Hauschka then we are 1-3. That guy has been money. I think we are getting spoiled. People now expect him to hit from 55+ every time and that's asking a lot Tbf Carpenter was like that the 9-7 season. That game winner in Detroit was a massive kick... 58 yarder I think. Something happened to him the following pre-season when he had a niggling injury an missed a couple of kicks and Rex called him out on it in a presser and his confidence just never recovered... it was downhill from thereon in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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