BobbyC81 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Whether the Bills mgmt recognizes shortcomings of O-Line or lack of WR speed, I wouldn't be surprised at another deal, even if it's a low level move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Whether the Bills mgmt recognizes shortcomings of O-Line or lack of WR speed, I wouldn't be surprised at another deal, even if it's a low level move. What can we get for a slightly used OLine coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Whether the Bills mgmt recognizes shortcomings of O-Line or lack of WR speed, I wouldn't be surprised at another deal, even if it's a low level move.I tend to agree. They can't be happy with the offense so far. It has been atrocious. I don't know what the see in Ducasse. I think that the OL will be okay if healthy. A Ragland for Dorsett trade makes so much sense. Edited August 27, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 This new regime has too much pride to acknowledge shortcomings unless they are part of the previous regime Don't expect any picks being given up so player for player? Unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 This new regime has too much pride to acknowledge shortcomings unless they are part of the previous regime Don't expect any picks being given up so player for player? Unlikely What makes you say that they have too much pride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 What makes you say that they have too much pride? Beane's annoyance at fans for seeing the obvious perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 What can we get for a slightly used OLine coach? More than what you could get if you threw a worn-out-his-welcome ST coach into the mix with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 What makes you say that they have too much pride? I get the sense that they blindly believe in their system or "process" Even at the expense of benefiting the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Ragland will be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Ragland will be traded. Who on God's green Earth is going to give up anything for a guy made for 1970s football whose coach just said is fighting to stay on the roster? What would that team give up for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 They are smarter then all of us. 1) you're probably right 2) our average intelligence isn't that impressive so that doesn't necessarily speak well for the Bills 3) I've seen your thoughts recently. You don't deny this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I tend to agree. They can't be happy with the offense so far. It has been atrocious. I don't know what the see in Ducasse. I think that the OL will be okay if healthy. A Ragland for Dorsett trade makes so much sense. I believe ducasse has naked pictures of McDermott s wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I get the sense that they blindly believe in their system or "process" Even at the expense of benefiting the roster So, in other words, you have nothing of significance to back up your statement. Just your incredible "sense". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 i don't think the next trade, which i expect in the next two days, will be one we expect. it could be something like Charles Clay traded or Eric Wood - which would be quite shocking and healthy step toward our building. I am really surprised on Hughes who seems to have turned a bit of a corner this year and I am happy with that. Otherwise, I expected him traded soon. Right now Ragland for a 5th or 6th conditional Kyle Williams for a 3rd if I could get it - or a downfield target / big body big radius target charles clay for a backup rt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) i don't think the next trade, which i expect in the next two days, will be one we expect. it could be something like Charles Clay traded or Eric Wood - which would be quite shocking and healthy step toward our building. I am really surprised on Hughes who seems to have turned a bit of a corner this year and I am happy with that. Otherwise, I expected him traded soon. Right now Ragland for a 5th or 6th conditional Kyle Williams for a 3rd if I could get it - or a downfield target / big body big radius target charles clay for a backup rt Kyle Williams should retire a Bill. He should mean more than a pick or questionable trade, to both the fans and FO Edited August 28, 2017 by 87168 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Jarvis Landry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Trade possibilities: Tyrod Taylor to Broncos for mid round draft pick. Shady McCoy to whoever loses a feature back early for a 2nd round draft pick. Charles Clay for 3rd round draft pick. Reggie Ragland to Toronto Argonauts for $20 Tim Hortons gift card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Beane's annoyance at fans for seeing the obvious perhaps?They've signed players, they've released players, they've traded players. That don't seem like a pride issue at all. It seems more like they're just trying to build a roster. What exact moves have they made that are so erroneous that their pride has to be tested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Kyle Williams should retire a Bill. He should mean more than a pick or questionable trade, to both the fans and FO 2 thumbs up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 i don't think the next trade, which i expect in the next two days, will be one we expect. it could be something like Charles Clay traded or Eric Wood - which would be quite shocking and healthy step toward our building. I am really surprised on Hughes who seems to have turned a bit of a corner this year and I am happy with that. Otherwise, I expected him traded soon. Right now Ragland for a 5th or 6th conditional Kyle Williams for a 3rd if I could get it - or a downfield target / big body big radius target charles clay for a backup rt I wouldn't trade Clay, he looks pretty good to me this pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I get the sense that they blindly believe in their system or "process" Even at the expense of benefiting the roster Trust the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Trust the process History has not been kind to those who go all in on a fearless leader with no track record. A process never won anyone a championship. Coaching does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Ragland will be traded to a team playing the 3-4 for a QB and a 5th round pick in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Ragland will be traded to a team playing the 3-4 for a QB and a 5th round pick in 2018. prolly the packers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 prolly the packers Ragland for Aaron Rodgers and a fifth? They might do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Ragland for Aaron Rodgers and a fifth? They might do it. id want at least a third Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 id want at least a third Lol, good thinking. Ragland was a second round pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I think they'll troll the waiver wire and cuts. It's a good plan given that teams often have to cu quality players at positions where the are deep. Those cuts are often worth look when they're better than the garbage a team has. They're dead in the water this year. And it appears they're all in (fully pregnant!) on the long view. So they'll whittle down the miscreants and dead weight and build from the draft and free agency. I think this is a 2-3 process to skim the scum off and get the players they want and start seeing results. I'm for it, sick of the hiring new coaches, no plan, and "we're here to won" schtick. It'll suck going and being a ST holder but I'm up for a new approach, as long as they stick with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Ragland will be traded to a team playing the 3-4 for a QB and a 5th round pick in 2018. They have gotten a draft pick and a comparable player for a couple of other classic draft day blunders by Whaley, it would be nice to get rid of one more for a similar deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Oh dear god. Just because he made one move that shouldn't mean it's the standard going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Kyle Williams should retire a Bill. He should mean more than a pick or questionable trade, to both the fans and FO id send him to NE if i had to so he can win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 id send him to NE if i had to so he can win I would never send any players to that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I would never send any players to that team. They could get a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I would never send any players to that team. he's the only one i would. that or fred jackson. i'd trade boldins rights to the jets just to be a dick, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 They could get a ring. So what? The team owes them nothing but the $$ they agreed to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 So what? The team owes them nothing but the $$ they agreed to play for. Maybe. Maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy McFiddish Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Trade KC their 3rd round pick back for Alex Smith. They owe us for letting them move up 18 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Trade KC their 3rd round pick back for Alex Smith. They owe us for letting them move up 18 spots. The Bills are looking towards the 2018 QB draft class with the trade down with KC, and the trading of Watkins for a second round pick. Mid thirties Alex Smith makes no sense and does nothing for a team which no doubt will be one of the youngest teams in the league next year, and who will also probably have selected a high first round QB pick. The "this journeyman QB will be good enough for the Bills to finally make the playoffs" method is thankfully a thing of the past. Edited August 28, 2017 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy McFiddish Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Yes that is very true, would be like our Matt Cassel move all over again lol. Even if we do not win the Darnold sweepstakes there are so many good Qb's coming out next year. Plus last time KC had a schedule this tough they went 4-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 What can we get for a slightly used OLine coach? Castillo and Ducasse for a decent OT. !@#$ it, trade them both for a 7th round pick and a cheeseburger that O line is trash with the scheme, technique isnt being taught right, look at the Ravens O line. they got better as soon as Castillo stopped coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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