TallskiWallski83 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Will we want to resign them? How much will it cost? If they both walk and Sammy has a great year will we all be pulling out our hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Both combined cheaper than Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 If Matthews puts up his usual 1k yards yes. What if Matthews has more yearns yards than Sammy? Lot of receivers in la. Â Â Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Can we at least let them get to Buffalo, get Jerseys etc before worrying about if they leave in the offseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'd imagine Beane and McD will make a decision after seeing how well they fit into the locker room and culture they are trying to develop along with the ability they demonstrate on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The good thing about the trade is Sammy is with the Rams. At best Sammy puts up maybe 1180yards and 9 TDs. Very respectable numbers considering Goff is there. But imagine if we traded him to Green Bay or some other team with a good QB?  My guess is Matthews would cost more than what ever Robert Woods got paid from the Rams. But shouldn't be too expensive. If Matthews puts up his usual 1k yards yes. What if Matthews has more yearns yards than Sammy? Lot of receivers in la. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk  If Matthews gets 100 receptions he just might reach 1K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Both combined cheaper than Sammy MUCH cheaper. A mere fraction. We can see how it goes and keep who we want without breaking the bank. Having said that, the guy with the best shot at a HOF career would be expected to cost more. I'm torn, but I like the extra picks and glad that while we may have downgraded we didn't create any new holes. My glass is half full, but it has a leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 seems like nobody is answering the question of the thread  will the bills be able to resign these guys? matthews especially. if youre going to give up on what still could be a top elite wr like sammy you better at least retain the above average starter you traded to replace him. same logic with gaines if hes any good you gotta hope they build up some attachment to buffalo as the season goes on. matthews i can see wanting to test the fa mkt, he should be looking at 9+ mil. that would suck to have him walk and then have to go find sombody else when you coulda rolled the dice on sammy and franchised him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallskiWallski83 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) seems like nobody is answering the question of the thread  will the bills be able to resign these guys? matthews especially. if youre going to give up on what still could be a top elite wr like sammy you better at least retain the above average starter you traded to replace him. same logic with gaines if hes any good Thats where the major risk is in this trade, Id be much happier with the trade if both of these guys has 2-3 years left on their deals. Right now both of these guys could have amazing years and decide to walk in free agency, and then Sammy and Darby could also play amazing and resign with their new teams, and we look like huge huge fools.  Again, this was an extremely risky trade. It had the potential to upset the fan base and locker room. Both players acquired can walk in 1 year, the only safety net is a 2nd and 3rd. Is that appropriate value for the worst case scenario? Edited August 11, 2017 by TallskiWallski83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Will we want to resign them? How much will it cost? If they both walk and Sammy has a great year will we all be pulling out our hair? Â ...and Beane pulls a rabbit outta his hat and re-signs UFA Sammy who wants to come "home"....hmmmmm.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 They will re-sign them if for no other reason than to save face. They aren't going to trade their top CB and too WR for just a couple of picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This deal is only about the draft picks they got. If they like either Mathews or Gaines enough to re-sign them, it will be a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This deal is only about the draft picks they got. If they like either Mathews or Gaines enough to re-sign them, it will be a bonus.I don't agree. They would never have taken a 2nd and 3rd for Watkins and Darby. They are trying to add a couple of starters and picks. They'll keep both guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 ...and Beane pulls a rabbit outta his hat and re-signs UFA Sammy who wants to come "home"....hmmmmm.................. That rabbit may not be your average rabbit, more like a hippo. And the hat is probably his caboose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 They will let them walk and then use the draft picks to replace them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I don't agree. They would never have taken a 2nd and 3rd for Watkins and Darby. They are trying to add a couple of starters and picks. They'll keep both guys. They could both be affordable, middle of the road starters with neither commanding "star" money. Sammy would have cost a boat load, and Darby might have gotten Gilmore-type $$$ in a couple years. Middle of the pack starters plus some draft pick ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Both combined cheaper than Sammy The Bills got cheaper players. Yeah? Â Are the Bills better? NO! Â TANK! TANK! TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 They will re-sign them if for no other reason than to save face. They aren't going to trade their top CB and too WR for just a couple of picks. Â Â Â save face?...seriously?......because you said so?......give it up...you have ZERO idea as to how these trades pan out as NOBODY else does....think I've heard it all..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 If they gel with the team, then sure extend them midseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) That rabbit may not be your average rabbit, more like a hippo. And the hat is probably his caboose. ...had to throw it out there because all of the EXPERT pundits here are so teary eyed..........may explain why they're HERE versus gainful employment in 32 NFL clubs' administration...think so DiNozzo??....I know my place as a lowly poster......... Edited August 11, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 If Matthews and Gains are so good the team needs to resign them then they will have done extremely well in the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Â ...and Beane pulls a rabbit outta his hat and re-signs UFA Sammy who wants to come "home"....hmmmmm.................. I first misread this as "Beane pulls a RABBI outta his hat..." I thought, well, that's weird. But original. Â Fridays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I don't agree. They would never have taken a 2nd and 3rd for Watkins and Darby. They are trying to add a couple of starters and picks. They'll keep both guys. I hope that you are right, but I don't see it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Until we land a franchise QB it really doesn't matter who we have or who resigns at these other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The Bills got cheaper players. Yeah? Â Are the Bills better? NO! Â TANK! TANK! TANK! how much worse are they though? they got a possible 1k yards receiver and a db that will play zone (oh yea PLUS the picks!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 They will re-sign them if for no other reason than to save face. They aren't going to trade their top CB and too WR for just a couple of picks. The Bills have plenty of draft picks to fill either spot if the Bills choose not to resign either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 We got all these draft picks to use on more RBs, WRs and DBs. We'll address QB later in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Â Â Â save face?...seriously?......because you said so?......give it up...you have ZERO idea as to how these trades pan out as NOBODY else does....think I've heard it all..... They aren't going to trade Sammy and Darby for a 2nd and 3rd. They aren't going to let these guys walk out the door after 1 year. That's common sense. Are we that naive? Edited August 11, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Don't be so sure they both will enter into the formula for compensatory picks next season which allows more flexibility than what they had before. After what's happened today another third round pick to this regime looks very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Lets watch them play in our system before talking about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Considering what Robert Woods signed for, expect somewhere around $10mil a season for Matthews for 5 years with around 20 guaranteed. Gaines hasn't been good for a while, so it may not matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Considering what Robert Woods signed for, expect somewhere around $10mil a season for Matthews for 5 years with around 20 guaranteed. Gaines hasn't been good for a while, so it may not matter.I think that Tavon Austin's deal is probably a starting point (4 years $42M, $28M guaranateed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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