Rocky Landing Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 BTW- who told Neil Greenberg that Jones was second on the depth chart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) This list does a rather fantastic job of demonstrating why the bills can't just "pick up or trade for" a free agent starting franchise QB Edited June 8, 2017 by Over 28 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I don't trust a list that has geno smith(16) as not ready for prime time and fitz(29th) as clipboard holder. +1. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'll take it! 15th is not bad! For full article, see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2017/06/08/power-ranking-the-nfls-backup-qbs-moore-garoppolo-lead-but-kaepernick-could-be-there-too/?utm_term=.32eaf75b5c94 Power ranking the NFL’s backup QBs: Moore, Garoppolo lead, but Kaepernick could be there too Here’s a ranking of the league’s backups from best to worst, based on their chances of producing an above-average level of adjusted net yards per pass in a game if called into service during the 2017 season. Rookies were given an average adjusted net yards per pass figure based on historical averages of first-year NFL passers, modified for expected playing time and opportunity. Solid options 1. Matt Moore, Miami Dolphins, 54 percent chance at being better than an average starter 2. Jimmy Garoppolo, New England Patriots, 51 percent Useful stand-ins 3. Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagles, 46 percent 4. Colt McCoy, Washington Redskins, 44 percent 5. Brandon Weeden, Houston Texans, 43 percent 6. Kellen Clemens, San Diego Chargers, 43 percent 7. Chase Daniel, New Orleans Saints, 43 percent 8. A.J. McCarron, Cincinnati Bengals, 42 percent 9. Chad Henne, Jacksonville Jaguars, 42 percent 10. Kellen Moore, Dallas Cowboys, 42 percent Not-ready-for prime-time players 11. Trevone Boykin, Seattle Seahawks, 42 percent 12. Matt Schaub, Atlanta Falcons, 42 percent 13. Derek Anderson, Carolina Panthers, 42 percent 14. Connor Cook, Oakland Raiders, 41 percent 15. Cardale Jones, Buffalo Bills, 41 percent 16. Geno Smith, New York Giants, 41 percent 17. Landry Jones, Pittsburgh Steelers, 41 percent 18. Mitch Trubisky, Chicago Bears, 41 percent 19. Patrick Mahomes II, Kansas City Chiefs, 39 percent Emergencies only 20. Sean Mannion, Los Angeles Rams, 39 percent 21. Ryan Mallett, Baltimore Ravens, 39 percent 22. Brett Hundley, Green Bay Packers, 38 percent 23. Paxton Lynch, Denver Broncos, 38 percent 24. Scott Tolzien, Indianapolis Colts, 37 percent 25. Kevin Hogan, Cleveland Browns, 36 percent 26. Matt Cassel, Tennessee Titans, 35 percent Clipboard holders 27. Matt Barkley, San Francisco 49ers, 31 percent 28. Drew Stanton, Arizona Cardinals, 30 percent 29. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 30 percent 30. Jake Rudock, Detroit Lions, 29 percent 31. Case Keenum, Minnesota Vikings, 27 percent 32. Bryce Petty, New York Jets, 27 percent LOOOOOOLLLLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 In other news, Garoppolo has already been named to the ProBowl in 2018. "Based on his two games in the league, he has a 50% chance of making it to the HOF", stated Rob Johnson earlier in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 This is the worst list ever, they will need to make a new one when he is cut. I would take Jimmy G over Taylor right now, does that put TT on the useful stand in list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Man! this list is SILLY. It certainly raised my eyebrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Presumably this is based on Ezekiel Elliott averaging 10 yards a carry in the 3 college football playoff games Jones started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I also heard that Jonathan Williams is ranked the 3rd best backup rb in the nfl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
145B4IDIE Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 This is the worst list ever, they will need to make a new one when he is cut. I would take Jimmy G over Taylor right now, does that put TT on the useful stand in list? New list needed now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I like how guys who have never taken a snap in the NFL are rated higher than Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I've said it before & I'll say it again: nobody knows backup QBs like Neil Greenberg of the Washington Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I hate "listicles" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Kellen Clemens being that high makes me want to vomit. Good old Mr 54% with more turnovers than scores, a "useful stand-in" he ain't. Although, with the criteria set, I see why Cardale might be up there. With an arm like his, the deep ball is a viable theoretical point, thus leading to plausible chunks of yardage to be gained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Agree it's a terrible list. How is AJ McCarron worse than Brandon Weeden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) I'm sorry, this list is a joke. It truly is. Brandon Weeden is listed under "useful stand ins" at 5th overall. I doubt the person who made the list has ever watched a football game. Edited June 9, 2017 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 By whom? Whaley as I recall said he was in the "top third" or maybe "top quarter" but that's a long way from #2. Can't recall anyone here doling out more love for EJ as a #2 Do recall one delusional upstart thinking EJ > Taylor but you can't fix cra cra By whom? Whaley as I recall said he was in the "top third" or maybe "top quarter" but that's a long way from #2. Can't recall anyone here doling out more love for EJ as a #2 Do recall one delusional upstart thinking EJ > Taylor but you can't fix cra cra Whaley made a public proclamation about EJ being one among the best #2s. But on this board , there were numerous vocal EJ supporters. Despite the empirical evidence on the playing field and hospitality tent, support didn't really die down till final game he played against Jets. There is still belief that a fresh start with another team will finally show us the trrue EJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Oh sh*t, don't let Jeffismagic see that he is rated higher than Mahomes. His effin head will explode. That's all it'll take?? IM him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 In other news, Garoppolo has already been named to the ProBowl in 2018. "Based on his two games in the league, he has a 50% chance of making it to the HOF", stated Rob Johnson earlier in the day. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekills17 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Remember that this is chance to be better than an average starter. We have Hackenberg bringing down the starter group heavily unless the writer of this article did a truncated mean. Man! this list is SILLY. I think somebody's mom made this list. both fitz and geno are not guys you want to rely on but fitz is much better than geno is the point. I think it depends on how you interpret the ranking and data. If you take it literally, it is the likelihood the replacement QB will exceed the starter in net yards per game. In that case, Cardale Jones doesn't have to do nearly as much as Fitzpatrick to exceed the starter's average, so as far as replacements go, the Bills don't drop as far as the Buccaneers if their starter is injured. It doesn't mean Jones is better than Fitzpatrick. It just means the drop off from Taylor to Cardale is significantly less than the drop off from Winston to Fitzpatrick. Almost more an indictment of Taylor than Fitzy. I'm not sure how you account for Geno Smith replacing Eli Manning on that basis admittedly. What's also interesting using that evaluation criteria, is one would expect Moore to outperform Tannehill if he became the starter more often than not. Maybe? That also indicates Garrapolo should basically equal Tom Brady's output on average. Uhhhh....no. On second thought, yeah - this list is jacked up no matter how you interpret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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