Deranged Rhino Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I was reading that the Italians plan on handing him over to the US, but have found no confirmation of this. Would not surprise me. That tweet from the other day shocked a lot of people, so if they are admitting he is alive and they knew where he was... Anyhoooo things are about to get interesting! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keepthefaith Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: George Conway calling for impeachment https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-conway-trump-is-a-cancer-on-the-presidency-congress-should-remove-him/2019/04/18/e75a13d8-6220-11e9-bfad-36a7eb36cb60_story.html?utm_term=.141f56b3bcec The Constitution commands the president to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” It requires him to affirm that he will “faithfully execute the Office of President” and to promise to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.” And as a result, by taking the presidential oath of office, a president assumes the duty not simply to obey the laws, civil and criminal, that all citizens must obey, but also to be subjected to higher duties — what some excellent recent legal scholarship has termed the “fiduciary obligations of the president.” Fiduciaries are people who hold legal obligations of trust, like a trustee of a trust. A trustee must act in the beneficiary’s best interests and not his own. If the trustee fails to do that, the trustee can be removed, even if what the trustee has done is not a crime.... By these standards, the facts in Mueller’s report condemn Trump even more than the report’s refusal to clear him of a crime. Charged with faithfully executing the laws, the president is, in effect, the nation’s highest law enforcement officer. Yet Mueller’s investigation “found multiple acts by the President that were capable of executing undue influence over law enforcement investigations.” Trump tried to “limit the scope of the investigation.” He tried to discourage witnesses from cooperating with the government through “suggestions of possible future pardons.” He engaged in “direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.” A fair reading of the special counsel’s narrative is that “the likely effect” of these acts was “to intimidate witnesses or to alter their testimony,” with the result that “the justice system’s integrity [was] threatened.” Page after page, act after act, Mueller’s report describes a relentless torrent of such obstructive activity by Trump. The investigation that Trump tried to interfere with here, to protect his own personal interests, was in significant part an investigation of how a hostile foreign power interfered with our democracy. If that’s not putting personal interests above a presidential duty to the nation, nothing is. White House counsel John Dean famously told Nixon that there was a cancer within the presidency and that it was growing. What the Mueller report disturbingly shows, with crystal clarity, is that today there is a cancer in the presidency: President Donald J. Trump. Congress now bears the solemn constitutional duty to excise that cancer without delay. It's hard to imagine George and Kelly Ann staying married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: It's hard to imagine George and Kelly Ann staying married. If they are not setting up the Carville-Matalin thing for future appearances, it is indeed strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: It's hard to imagine George and Kelly Ann staying married. It’s more puzzling than Corville and Mattalin. (Sp?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Very interesting here. Cued up to the relevant time. (12:50) re: DNC hacks. This is huge 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Very interesting here. Cued up to the relevant time. (12:50) re: DNC hacks. This is huge "Appear". Ummmm wow. With all the work that investigation did, it appears (haha) that may have been a bone tossed to the Russia crowd? To put people off the real DNC email hacking trail? Mueller knows better and for some reason is obfuscating? Curiouser and curiouser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, keepthefaith said: It's hard to imagine George and Kelly Ann staying married. Till death do us part is more likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Very interesting here. Cued up to the relevant time. (12:50) re: DNC hacks. This is huge And this goes back to how someone supposedly determined that the e-mails were downloaded at a rate incompatible with internet speeds? And that that person could have been Seth Rich? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Doc said: And this goes back to how someone supposedly determined that the e-mails were downloaded at a rate incompatible with internet speeds? And that that person could have been Seth Rich? Somehow this has been glossed over for the last 2 1/2 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Somehow this has been glossed over for the last 2 1/2 years. Well that all depends on whether you believe that someone truly determined that the information was downloaded using a thumb drive. It could be fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: And this goes back to how someone supposedly determined that the e-mails were downloaded at a rate incompatible with internet speeds? And that that person could have been Seth Rich? 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Somehow this has been glossed over for the last 2 1/2 years. It really goes back to the January ICA by clapper and Brennan. The hacking claim is the core charge. If that is wrong, and it is, then it really shows how the whole thing was a set up from the start. Remember when the ICA first came out it was lied about non stop. "All 17 Intel agencies agree!" It was never all agencies, in fact the NSA which is the lead agency on cyber attacks such as this, put it at less than 50%. Only Brennan's CIA, Comey's FBI and the DNI agreed the hack happened. It took 7 months to retract the "all 17 Intel agencies agree" lie. But by then everyone believed it. Theres only one person who can prove how the files were acquired... And he's about to be extradited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Theres only one person who can prove how the files were acquired... And he's about to be extradited. I thought you were going to say that they exhumed Seth's body to provide evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Answer: he goes to the bank. He's going to be a very rich man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Quote “I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President,” Romney said. “I am also appalled that, among other things fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia.” “It is good news that there was insufficient evidence to charge the President of the United States with having conspired with a foreign adversary or with having obstructed justice,” Romney said. “The alternative would have taken us through a wrenching process with the potential for constitutional crisis. The business of government can move on.” I'd still bet he'd vote against impeachment though. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/19/romney-sickened-mueller-report-1283543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'd still bet he'd vote against impeachment though. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/19/romney-sickened-mueller-report-1283543 Just like the Electoral College. The Founders didn't intend for the EC to just "rubber stamp" their person. The EC was intended to protect the country from the idiots that electoral system elects. To over-ride people when dishonesty, demagoguery influence them. The Founders knew that people will make immoral choices. We are at a point where people can't "save face." People will just ride their mistakes out for the sake of not throwing things into turmoil. Slugs like Trump are very smart when it comes to knowing how the psychology of people falling into line works. Mitt won't cross that line. We all do it. Conservatives are the worst. It's in the very nature and defintion of being: "conservative." Afraid of change, the ability to take risks. Mitt will fall lockstep... Throw it back to idiots, the people. Kinda appropriate for the season. It's what Pontius did. Mitt will go back and Trump will cut off his head. Edited April 20, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Just like the Electoral College. The Founders didn't intend for the EC to just "rubber stamp" their person. The EC was intended to protect the country from the idiots that electoral system elects. To over-ride people when dishonesty, demagoguery influence them. The Founders knew that people will make immoral choices. We are at a point where people can't "save face." People will just ride their mistakes out for the sake of not throwing things into turmoil. Slugs like Trump are very smart when it comes to knowing how the psychology of people falling into line works. Mitt won't cross that line. We all do it. Conservatives are the worst. It's in the very nature and defintion of being: "conservative." Afraid of change, the ability to take risks. Mitt will fall lockstep... Throw it back to idiots, the people. Kinda appropriate for the season. It's what Pontius did. Mitt will go back and Trump will cut off his head. Addled. Just addled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/439691-mueller-done-dems-should-be-too-trump-is-no-nixon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 38 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Addled. Just addled. So funny how in one quick post we find out conservatives, by their very nature, are afraid of change and risk, and in the next comment we find out that it doesn't really matter anyway because people are too stupid to make the right decision about who gets elected. Thank goodness we have the far left here to tell all the stupid people how to think by insisting the coastal elites choose their leaders. How stupid the rest of the country must be to look at NY and CA and think "We should really have our government decided by people whose consistent contributions are staggering taxes, hundreds of thousands of homeless people, sanctuary for illegal criminals...and the equal opportunity to take a dump right in the middle of the street while hoping you don't get typhus." It's not just addled. It's unhinged and delusional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Just like the Electoral College. The Founders didn't intend for the EC to just "rubber stamp" their person. The EC was intended to protect the country from the idiots that electoral system elects. To over-ride people when dishonesty, demagoguery influence them. The Founders knew that people will make immoral choices. We are at a point where people can't "save face." People will just ride their mistakes out for the sake of not throwing things into turmoil. Slugs like Trump are very smart when it comes to knowing how the psychology of people falling into line works. Mitt won't cross that line. We all do it. Conservatives are the worst. It's in the very nature and defintion of being: "conservative." Afraid of change, the ability to take risks. Mitt will fall lockstep... Throw it back to idiots, the people. Kinda appropriate for the season. It's what Pontius did. Mitt will go back and Trump will cut off his head. the EC has been quite helpful in preventing the entire Reconstruction South from possibly overturning the election to the Dems, it also prevented the cities of NY and LA from electing a President in 2016 there is a vast diff between theory and actually running something, Conservatives love to give theories and they just don't work out the more people you try to inculcate into their paradise. It works just fine for the individual person, his family, his community, his church, his job though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 35 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: So funny how in one quick post we find out conservatives, by their very nature, are afraid of change and risk, and in the next comment we find out that it doesn't really matter anyway because people are too stupid to make the right decision about who gets elected. Thank goodness we have the far left here to tell all the stupid people how to think by insisting the coastal elites choose their leaders. How stupid the rest of the country must be to look at NY and CA and think "We should really have our government decided by people whose consistent contributions are staggering taxes, hundreds of thousands of homeless people, sanctuary for illegal criminals...and the equal opportunity to take a dump right in the middle of the street while hoping you don't get typhus." What???? How can you have a typhus epidemic in a modern American city? That's ***** insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 We are a republic not a pure democracy. The Electoral College reflects that fact. Any of you who feel that we should have a popular vote nationwide to decide the presidency are free to get the process started to amend our constitution to get that done. Otherwise, quit whining. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: What???? How can you have a typhus epidemic in a modern American city? That's ***** insane. Look who runs our cities. These people don't have a clue as far as the unintended consequences of their policies go. Anywhere that garbage piles up is going to be susceptible to causing a typhus epidemic. In their minds its ok when it's limited to the homeless but when it spreads to places like City Hall they have to take notice. Take a guess whether they limit their fix to fumigating or try to solve the deeper problem of accumulated garbage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 OPEN THE BORDERS! LET THEM ALL IN. JUST KEEP THEM ALL IN CALIFORNIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nanker said: OPEN THE BORDERS! LET THEM ALL IN. JUST KEEP THEM ALL IN CALIFORNIA. Wall off California from the rest of us and put EZ Pass lanes for the border between CA and Mexico. "Deport" all illegal aliens from other states to CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 After two years of lying about it... they admit the truth - while dodging ALL responsibility or accountability. It was always a coup. People will be punished, need to be punished, if the Republic is to survive this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Wall off California from the rest of us and put EZ Pass lanes for the border between CA and Mexico. "Deport" all illegal aliens from other states to CA. only socialists wall off people they don't like, then they exterminate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, row_33 said: only socialists wall off people they don't like, then they exterminate them. Good thing for Mexico then that the Repubs are the ones pushing for a wall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Doc said: Good thing for Mexico then that the Repubs are the ones pushing for a wall... a wall to keep people out is not the same as to keep people in.... of course the liberal media claimed the Berlin Wall was just as much keeping the West out of the East as the other way around they have always been totally dead ***** wrong on everything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, row_33 said: a wall to keep people out is not the same as to keep people in.... of course the liberal media claimed the Berlin Wall was just as much keeping the West out of the East as the other way around they have always been totally dead ***** wrong on everything.... It's a wall to keep people in...Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Doc said: It's a wall to keep people in...Mexico. yeah, that's fine for the US to keep out people it doesn't want to enter the US not the same as Socialist actions like the Berlin Wall or the Warsaw Ghetto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: I'd still bet he'd vote against impeachment though. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/19/romney-sickened-mueller-report-1283543 So now you're quoting that religious nut job? "Hey Mitt, the 1980s called. They want their foreign policy back." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 4 hours ago, row_33 said: the EC has been quite helpful in preventing the entire Reconstruction South from possibly overturning the election to the Dems, it also prevented the cities of NY and LA from electing a President in 2016 there is a vast diff between theory and actually running something, Conservatives love to give theories and they just don't work out the more people you try to inculcate into their paradise. It works just fine for the individual person, his family, his community, his church, his job though... Ideology shifts, the names stay the same. Old GOP are the Dems (Reconstruction). Might as well call Trump's GOP: DixieCrats or just Mossy Oak Democrats. That covers everybody from the West, South, North, ans East... Suburbs included. Not sure what the hell you call the New Democrats? Tree hugging crazy? The divide has always been City-Country. Cities have been carry states since the 1930s. LA carried Cali, NYC carried NYS... Like they always did. It was IA, WI, MI, & PA that picked the President. They went pink, not purple. The Dem rural-industrial firewall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 51 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: So now you're quoting that religious nut job? "Hey Mitt, the 1980s called. They want their foreign policy back." If only the current president could rise up to Mitt's level of "Nut Baggery" we wouldn't be talking about impeachment. Quote Former Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) on Saturday excoriated President Trump over details in special counsel Robert Mueller's report, declaring that "America deserves better." Kasich, who is mulling launching a Republican presidential primary challenge to Trump in 2020, tweeted that Trump's behavior in the Mueller report "is more than disappointing." "It’s unacceptable & not behavior we should expect from our president. It's worse than I've seen in my career observing & working with presidents or public officials," he wrote. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/439869-kasich-trumps-behavior-described-in-mueller-report-shows-that-america Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (Boomerang) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Which, of course, he wouldn't have had to do if he had been working with Trump or his campaign in secret... right? This has been known for two years, it was ignored and explained away as "Putin was trying to make it LOOK like he needed a back channel to hide the existing one". When you forgo logic and reason for TDS, you make terrible logical deductions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Find but didn’t discover? Who cares? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Which, of course, he wouldn't have had to do if he had been working with Trump or his campaign in secret... right? This has been known for two years, it was ignored and explained away as "Putin was trying to make it LOOK like he needed a back channel to hide the existing one". When you forgo logic and reason for TDS, you make terrible logical deductions. In Putin's defense, you kind-of have to do those things when the president-elect doesn't have a preexisting "charitable foundation" to back-channel communications. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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