John from Riverside Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 About what? pretty much everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 The principle I was defending was getting your best people in place before the draft. The Indy GM was hired in January and ran the draft. Our GM came in after the draft. The GM is more important and you want your best personnel guys working together. If you like the new hires you will have to admit they played no role in the last draft. Why don't you just admit you were wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 pretty much everything Sounds like you should make that a t-shirt and wear it. Because you defend every scheme and shiny object Russ Brandon has ever sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Sounds like you should make that a t-shirt and wear it. Because you defend every scheme and shiny object Russ Brandon has ever sold. Got that set of steak knifes from Brandon on the way in the mail Doesnt change the fact that people can make some real money betting THE OPPOSITE of anything you say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Is Mahomes coming with him? I wonder if anyone in the Buffalo media will get a chance to ask Allen his thoughts on that move from a talent perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Got that set of steak knifes from Brandon on the way in the mail Doesnt change the fact that people can make some real money betting THE OPPOSITE of anything you say Really? I would clean your clock betting on football games and in any fantasy football league. If you want to give me your $$$ this year that can be arranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Really? I would clean your clock betting on football games and in any fantasy football league. If you want to give me your $$$ this year that can be arranged. Yet you wont take bets on Tyrod Taylor.....cuz your a kittie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Popcorn.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Yet you wont take bets on Tyrod Taylor.....cuz your a kittie Why would I bet against Tyrod being here? You have a defensive head coach trying to Jauron his way to wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Why would I bet against Tyrod being here? You have a defensive head coach trying to Jauron his way to wins. This looks an awful lot like a excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Where's Yeezus to bring us all down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Where's Yeezus to bring us all down? Its Jeff's shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 The principle I was defending was getting your best people in place before the draft. The Indy GM was hired in January and ran the draft. Our GM came in after the draft. The GM is more important and you want your best personnel guys working together. If you like the new hires you will have to admit they played no role in the last draft. I understand what you are saying and you can make the argument that Whaley should have been let go with Rex forcing the Bills to find another GM. Since Pegula let everyone go, he would have been crazy to do that before the draft. I think McD and Whaley worked together on the draft getting players McD wanted. I dont think Beane can complain about coming to a situation where he has two first round picks next year. Just because Indy did it in Jan doesnt mean that the Bills are wrong with the path they chose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Impossible. If you read here, the Bills suck, how we hire personnel suck and no one worth a damn wants to work for us... *sarcasm off* No, everything the Bills do is great, everyone wants to work here and every player wants to play here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 The principle I was defending was getting your best people in place before the draft. The Indy GM was hired in January and ran the draft. Our GM came in after the draft. The GM is more important and you want your best personnel guys working together. If you like the new hires you will have to admit they played no role in the last draft. That is a basic statement. Who would argue that? Your constant banter from the negative without facts to back you up, apparently now even making stuff up at times, does get tiresome. That is the main thing under scrutiny right now. Admitting when you are wrong also seems to be an m.o. of yours as well. Work on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 That is a basic statement. Who would argue that? Your constant banter from the negative without facts to back you up, apparently now even making stuff up at times, does get tiresome. That is the main thing under scrutiny right now. Admitting when you are wrong also seems to be an m.o. of yours as well. Work on it. Work on yourself. If you can't understand basic sentences then that is on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Work on yourself. If you can't understand basic sentences then that is on you. Genius bud. I did understand the sentence, and provided a basic retort. Don't you get tired of being a downer? Seems like a sad way to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Genius bud. I did understand the sentence, and provided a basic retort. Don't you get tired of being a downer? Seems like a sad way to live. Here. This should be more up your alley. John Murphy and Donald Jones will serve you some Koolaid just the way you like it. http://www.wgr550.com/shows/john-murphy-show-donald-jones-weekdays-12p-3p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Its Jeff's shift What, Fire Chan doesn't want any of this either? Can't I at least get an "You're an idiot" blast from DC Tom? This thread has devolved into nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Here. This should be more up your alley. John Murphy and Donald Jones will serve you some Koolaid just the way you like it. http://www.wgr550.com/shows/john-murphy-show-donald-jones-weekdays-12p-3p Kool Aid? I was just looking for actual facts surrounding a well-hired front office to-date. You were looking for an argument with false truths as your backing. The consistency in your belief regarding the order in which the hiring was done is admirable, but at the same time sad. You have had numerous far more knowledgeable posters than you give you fact, which you continue to ignore, regarding the majority of organizations and the way in they handle front office shake-ups. I'm all for discussion and takes from both sides, but this point should be moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 No, everything the Bills do is great, everyone wants to work here and every player wants to play here I'm quite sure there's some middle ground between these two extremes. That's the place where most of us live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Pretty impressive moves being made. Much needed change from the previous crew of clowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Anyone see anymore details on his role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 In addition to good info on Allen, I find it interesting that this piece also stated the Chiefs waited until after the Draft to fire their scouts and hire their own personnel....something many on this message board were flaming away at the Bills for doing...also, I like this hire presuming it comes to fruition. I really like this move especially in light of all the other personnel moves they've done so far. If it holds, this to me signals once more there is a new direction at OBD. eh, not 'many', just a couple know nothing know-it-alls who obnoxiously harped on it in multiple threads despite knowledgeable fans trying to help out. Anyway, it appears this is yet another excellent addition! <fastening Doomshield down w/ extra long spikes> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Anyone see anymore details on his role?nothing yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooshocker Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Hey Bills Fan, Question: Why is it if the Bills do nothing, we suck and if the Bills make moves, we suck? Is the view from your parents basement that shallow? We have done what many of YOU have called for for years; clean house? Strip the ship and start anew. Now that we have taken steps to do just that, it's still not good enough. Maybe the Clearasil vapors are affecting your thought process, but I, for one, enjoy monitoring the steps to success MY team is taking to improve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Hey Bills Fan, Question: Why is it if the Bills do nothing, we suck and if the Bills make moves, we suck? Is the view from your parents basement that shallow? We have done what many of YOU have called for for years; clean house? Strip the ship and start anew. Now that we have taken steps to do just that, it's still not good enough. Maybe the Clearasil vapors are affecting your thought process, but I, for one, enjoy monitoring the steps to success MY team is taking to improve! What was that all about? Edited May 17, 2017 by BillsFan17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Kool Aid? I was just looking for actual facts surrounding a well-hired front office to-date. You were looking for an argument with false truths as your backing. The consistency in your belief regarding the order in which the hiring was done is admirable, but at the same time sad. You have had numerous far more knowledgeable posters than you give you fact, which you continue to ignore, regarding the majority of organizations and the way in they handle front office shake-ups. I'm all for discussion and takes from both sides, but this point should be moot. Kool Aid = anything that doesnt fit Jeff's narrative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Hey Bills Fan, Question: Why is it if the Bills do nothing, we suck and if the Bills make moves, we suck? Is the view from your parents basement that shallow? We have done what many of YOU have called for for years; clean house? Strip the ship and start anew. Now that we have taken steps to do just that, it's still not good enough. Maybe the Clearasil vapors are affecting your thought process, but I, for one, enjoy monitoring the steps to success MY team is taking to improve! I think people want results and are tired of all the losing. No one can say whether these changes will finally get this team moving in the right direction. In the end the product on the field will speak the loudest. Until then all this off season talk is just talk and people just need to keep an open mind while hoping for the best. Edited May 17, 2017 by billieve420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 LOL....Jeff is definitely an angry kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Slowly but surely the pieces are falling into place. I dont know if they will succeed but I do know that these guys cant be any worse the the guys before them. Only direction we can go is up. I am very happy to see change. I like these hires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I'm quite sure there's some middle ground between these two extremes. That's the place where most of us live. That was the point I was trying to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Slowly but surely the pieces are falling into place. I dont know if they will succeed but I do know that these guys cant be any worse the the guys before them. Only direction we can go is up. I am very happy to see change. I like these hiresThe biggest difference will be one voice and one vision. It is also nice to hire experienced and respected people into basically the same roles. That is a huge change from how the Bills previously did things. Pegula is finding a new way to spend money and he got it right this time. Now Bills fans should try to forget the drought and give these guys a real chance to build something. Edited May 17, 2017 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I'm quite sure there's some middle ground between these two extremes. That's the place where most of us live. It's where I live. I'm excited to have a new coaching staff that - on paper - seems to be qualified and new personnel leadership that - on paper - seems to be qualified. But my optimism will be of the cautious variety until I see results on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Wow, we can turn on each other with the best of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 One thing should be undeniable about the Bills offseason is the positivity coming from many NFL media reports and experts. Save Jerry Sullivan and a couple others. This is a far cry from the many who have in the past screamed dysfunction. Does this guarantee success? Of course not. Let's hope the Pegula's got it right this time, they haven't been successful with Bills/Sabres, but they have done well in many other venues. Go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 If Beane won't make that much of a difference then why celebrate his hiring? I am not negative on Beane himself. I just have no idea who is doing what and that has been the same Buffalo Bills deal we have had since Levy/Jauron/Modrak. And I'm sure the Bills are concerned that YOU are not in the loop, that was one of their biggest off-season priorities! Probably one of the reasons Whaley was shown the door... pretty much everything I literally spit my drink on my keyboard Back on topic, seems like another solid hire! Can't wait to see how this group preforms over the next few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I just have no idea who is doing what and that has been the same Buffalo Bills deal we have had since Levy/Jauron/Modrak. I don't mean this to be rude but who cares what you know or don't know? How does that have any bearing on the organization's effectiveness going forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Great news! Yet another new hire for the front office who won't give a !@#$ about Russ Brandon's opinion on football operations! Strength in numbers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Wow, we can turn on each other with the best of them. Like a pack of wild dogs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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