stevewin Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Lunch Pail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Yes! Me too! and he could not cover and he doesnt fit McDermott's defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 This has to be one of the worst consensus scouting report for any player ever Drafted. Ergo, why not wait til after? That's where you hope to get young ST'ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Wish we would have just taken another shot at QB with Kaaya. The college "try hard" linebackers without measurables never amount to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The point is that we need to find somebody to neutralize this SOB and all the other TE's that wind up with 100 yds and 1-2TD's per game against us. Gronk hasn't been much of a factor against us in recent years. He's so beat up all the time. Like brady, he's slowly gonna fade away to normalcy soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Kevin Massare @KevinMassare 3h3 hours ago More After 2014, Vallejo was considered a 1st-2nd round pick. Very high PFF sore. You are getting talent in the 6th as @Cover1Bills noted. Edited April 29, 2017 by CNY315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Our Coach goes on and on about Special Teams, so this is the 2017 version of Tony Steward. Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Bottom Line Vallejo's outstanding production his sophomore season is one of the things keeping him alive in scouting circles. From a physical standpoint, he's an undersized inside linebacker who lacks the long levers needed to keep offensive linemen off of him. His instincts and third-down ability are plusses, but he'll need to find the right 3-4 fit or attempt to move to an outside linebacker role in a 4-3. Vallejo has NFL backup potential. -Lance Zierlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) In the 6th round, you most likely are not getting a starter (at least a year one starter for sure), so these guys are most likely going to be backups and Special Teams players. So, thinking about it from the "culture change" perspective, what would you rather have at this point in the draft? High motor, football-loving, willing tacklers, team-first, character guys? Or a guy with maybe more athletic ability but maybe lacks in want to/work ethic or has issues of some kind and you're hoping that he can mature, etc.? Coach talks about DNA and character...of course, character doesn't always mean choir boy, but rather all-effort, team-first, lunchpailers. Culture has to permeate the entire roster from your star players all the way down to your 53rd man. All of these picks fit that mold and just bring more of that work ethic to the locker room to help change that culture---not with preaching and platitudes, but with players that embody it. It's pretty hard to slack off if 52 other guys are giving full effort and competing. Edited April 30, 2017 by folz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 STRENGTHS Team-first player who played through severe wrist pain for almost the entire season. Sophomore season proved how productive he could be when allowed to play in the middle. Instinctive and quick to anticipate play flow. Takes aggressive contain angle when needed. Has a good feel for most efficient path to the ball. Maintains run fits and looks to spill the ball wide whenever possible. Plays with reactive athleticism to break down and quickly redirect his weight into runners trying to cut back. Shows a willingness to take on lead blockers with a leveraged shoulder. Good play speed with range to chase from sideline to sideline. Athletic enough to handle deep Cover-2 drops if called on. WEAKNESSES Angular frame with very short arms and may not be able to carry much more functional mass. Has never matched production total from two seasons ago. Below average play strength. Will struggle to unlock from a strong punch and fight back into the play. Could have issues leveraging his gap in the NFL. Can be washed away if he doesn't trigger downhill and stay one step ahead of blockers. Lacks thud behind his pads as a hitter. Has had issues sliding off of tackles. Has had to deal with injuries over the last two seasons and had to shut it down this season due to worsening of his wrist injury suffered in September. SOURCES TELL US "You might as well throw out this year because the guy was in a ton of pain all year long. It was obvious that something was wrong early in the year. I hate going all the way back to his sophomore year but I think you have to at least look at that tape to get a feel for who he might be able to become." -- NFC regional scout NFL COMPARISON Dominique Alexander BOTTOM LINE Vallejo's outstanding production his sophomore season is one of the things keeping him alive in scouting circles. From a physical standpoint, he's an undersized inside linebacker who lacks the long levers needed to keep offensive linemen off of him. His instincts and third-down ability are plusses, but he'll need to find the right 3-4 fit or attempt to move to an outside linebacker role in a 4-3. Vallejo has NFL backup potential. MAJ thanks for your contributions like this during the draft, i was beginning ti think all you could do was complain about Tyrod 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Our Coach goes on and on about Special Teams, so this is the 2017 version of Tony Steward. Yay. It is, in the sense that people are whining about our last 6th round pick like it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Always one obvious dud in every draft class. This guy is barely UDFA material. They should have added a safety in this round. Writing him off already. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 ...McD is all in this draft People keep saying this like it's news. We saw the imprints of Marrone and Rex the previous 4 drafts, too. This is not news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 No but they should at least look they belong on a NFL field. He barely pencils out to a STs guy. They have more needs at S and TE. How out of touch do you have to be to think you know everything about something you honestly have know idea about. Seriously, we are all wondering, how much and in what way did you scout Vallejo? Everyone has opinions, but dear god why when you have no idea about something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 UDFA/Camp fodder... Could make the practice squad, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Hope he makes the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Not afraid to drop into coverage and hopefully not a liability in coverage. Saw some highlights and he looks comfortable out there, liked this comment: Good play speed with range to chase from sideline to sideline. Athletic enough to handle deep Cover-2 drops if called on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 if one of the two LBs ends up contributing we did well.Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) Bet he makes as special teamer... and will get more opportunities from there if he doesn't eff it up! Definitely don't expect him to impress until the pads go on. Edited May 2, 2017 by Over 28 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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