Webster Guy Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Not much ammo left. 2018 picks can be dealt still. You know mcD has his eye on a safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 who says he will apparently struggle in pass pro? Just about every source reviewing him says this is a weakness. One reason he got his reps inside at the senior bowl, where he did very well btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Your OL Day 1 LT - Glenn LG - InCognito C - Wood RG - Miller RT - Dawkins Honestly, I love Woody and what he's done for Buffalo .. but I'd of preferred to see us take a Center in the 3rd. We led the league in rushing and interchanged all over the line .. Woody got the most miles (as Ritchie had a little time off from Miami). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just about every source reviewing him says this is a weakness. One reason he got his reps inside at the senior bowl, where he did very well btw. Could you provide some of those sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just about every source reviewing him says this is a weakness. One reason he got his reps inside at the senior bowl, where he did very well btw. Yet a scout says otherwise Sources Tell Us "I don't know if I see him as a guard or a tackle yet, but I think he can play both. I like him because I think he could upgrade our pass protection inside if we did bump him to guard, but he's athletic enough to play right tackle, too." -- AFC West scout http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/dion-dawkins?id=2557875 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I like that he's not Kujo height. My man Tyrod can't see over the super tall OLinemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I like that he's not Kujo height. My man Tyrod can't see over the super tall OLinemen. Passing lanes man.....Passing lanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) You get 2 long term starters. Doesnt matter does it. Then still have a 2018 1st in your pocket. That would be great, how do you know that? How do you know who the three picks given away would have been? Just surprised they spent 5 picks for 2 guys that are unproven and they may have gotten anyway. Edited April 29, 2017 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) I like that he's not Kujo height. My man Tyrod can't see over the super tall OLinemen. Millis lets up too many sacks for my liking.. Edited April 29, 2017 by Buffalo Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 My friend taught him at Temple. Said he's a great kid and good student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The 2008 pick had nothing to do with these last 2 moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Ooo CBS too. http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2060523 Pass Pro a Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 3 starters. That's good enough for this draft. Now play a few lottery tickets tomorrow and be done. Still desperately need LBs but can't plug all the holes in a single draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 That would be great, how do you know that? How do you who the three picks given away would have been. Just surprised they spent 5 picks for 2 guys that are unproven and they may have gotten anyway. Still got two picks. Never has a 4th. So used a 3rd and 5th to come get thier RT (wouldnt have made it to Thier pick. Was going next to Car) Used 3rd to get their No 2 WR. A top producing WR. That is good use of 5th rounds when you have 4 of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The most interesting thing about this pick to me is that McD apparently thinks more of our LBs than we all do. Honestly Mills was probably our worst starter last year. An upgrade was needed. I'm intrigued to see Ragland (slowness comments aside) and a full year of Shaq Lawson ... those guys did nothing last year .. they are like to additional #1 and #2's this year ... knock on wood. Stay healthy ... Love everything about this draft so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 #Bills had FOUR 5th round picks. Unloading 2 is nothing. Now the question is can Dawkins play T at NFL-level? If not, bad pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Do I understand we gave up three picks for this guy and two picks for the last guy. So 5 picks for two guys. A 2nd rnd, 2 3rd rnds and 2 5ths to get 2 guys. One near mid and the other at the end of the 2nd round. So much for the trade back, just couldn't wait to spend/waste that draft capital. Not being negative, just extremely unimpressed. I can't spout the percentages off the top of my head .. but I think the staying power of 2nd round picks have more longevity than 5th round picks ... and one of the 3rds we flipped was from KC last night and I'm A-OK with their 2018 1st rounder ... still in our pocket from KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 2018 picks can be dealt still. You know mcD has his eye on a safety[/quote) Really? There were a couple really good ones available. about 4 or 5 safeties and 3 or 4 tackles rated higher than Dawkins on a few draft boards I respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Great, now we only need a lb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Which is okay, but giving up 3 picks for that? They are down 1 total pick than what they started with. And have One 1st round talent Two 2nd round talents And still a 2018 1st in pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 So the Bills came in, managed to draft 3 starters in the first 2 rounds, and got a 1st for next year. I'm finding it really hard to hate that. So you're saying he has an eating problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Love the way we are working this draft abd acquiring very good players. All whom will push for early PT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 If you are gonna trade up you do it in 2nd and 3rd. That offers value. Only trade up in 1st for franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo044 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Wrong - 4 picks to get 2 guys but two of those were much higher than your original picks. They jumped ahead of car in. Otherwise instances as supposedly car was taken each of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Solid analysis. Solid, but flushable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Could you provide some of those sourcesChristian D'Andrea (Superbowl Nation), Fanrags (Kyle Crabbs), Draft Profile NFL.com (overcommits, opens door to looping rushers), underdog dynasty.com (says he grabs, negating his long reach and allowing the defender to maneouvre around him)...Somehow I think you can probably check this stuff out for yourself if you are so inclined. And why would many project him inside (and yes I know about CG) at the next level. Sure he is probably capable of playing right tackle, but dont you think in that case maybe best suited to a power run blocking scheme?Not saying he cant improve his pass pro, hes a good athlete and all of these guys are wip, but right now I dont think there is much doubt that his forte is run blocking. Edited April 29, 2017 by starrymessenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I like this pick. I also like that this is the first sign that we don't mind doing some homework and picking a player that may have had some "character issues." For those that don't know, Dion had an incident at a night club in 2015. Those things happen when you're a young guy. I was worried that we needed our prospects to be perfect off the field. Glad to know that some sort of incident doesn't stop us from considerig a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I like this pick. I also like that this is the first sign that we don't mind doing some homework and picking a player that may have had some "character issues." For those that don't know, Dion had an incident at a night club in 2015. Those things happen when you're a young guy. I was worried that we needed our prospects to be perfect off the field. Glad to know that some sort of incident doesn't stop us from considerig a player. yes - I'm sure it depends what it is and whether there is a pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Only reason people call him a OG is he lacks Ideal HT for OT. But his long arms mean more This, think Cordy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Don't like being back to six pix again. But all appear to be solid starters sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Ooo CBS too. http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2060523 Pass Pro a Plus Yes, I can believe he can be effective against the bull rush, but they do say, as others do, that he is susceptible to good edge rushers. He would get more of that on the left side but he would see it on the right as well, especially if he has difficulty adjusting to nfl edge rushers. I think thats probably why some see him as interior O-line, as did the coaches at the senior bowl. Edited April 29, 2017 by starrymessenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) 5th round picks. Big deal. Got your starting RTThis Are people really tripping over giving up a couple of 5th round picks that rarely if ever make the team over moving up into the top 65 and finding your starting RT hopefully for the next 10 years? Edited April 29, 2017 by dezertbill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Solid, but flushable. Most solids are. 3 good picks and a 1st for next year. No complaints here. If you need more 'flash' in your draft picks, go root for the Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Christian D'Andrea (Superbowl Nation), Fanrags (Kyle Crabbs), Draft Profile NFL.com (overcommits, opens door to looping rushers), underdog dynasty.com (says he grabs, negating his long reach and allowing the defender to maneouvre around him)...Somehow I think you can probably check this stuff out for yourself if you are so inclined. And why would many project him inside (and yes I know about CG) at the next level. Sure he is probably capable of playing right tackle, but dont you think in that case maybe best suited to a power run blocking scheme? Not saying he cant improve his pass pro, hes a good athlete and all of these guys are wip, but right now I dont think there is much doubt that his forte is run blocking. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 This Are people really tripping over giving up a couple of 5th round picks that rarely if ever make the team over moving up into the top 65 and finding your starting RT hopefully for the next 10 years? It's almost time to break out that list of recent Bills' fifth round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Loving McDermott so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Most solids are. 3 good picks and a 1st for next year. No complaints here. If you need more 'flash' in your draft picks, go root for the Cowboys. Oh, hate having to break that plunger out! I'm very happy so far. This is close to ideal for me. They must love Zay to move up like that, but they know the guy. I hope it's rational and objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I don't think either has any value atm. Is Kujo even out of ECMC yet? Henderson still has 5 games left on his suspension. OT was a giant need. Didn't know Henderson had suspension time left. Seems like he served a lot of time last yr. A couple of yrs ago the Viikings wanted to trade for Henderson but it was only like a 6th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 He is a guard. Beilive me! "Hell no, he's not a guard!" Buddy Nix pwning every talking head on Cordy Glenn. This will be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 yeah, its hard to imagine that picks 1-7 would be worth more than 2 1sts and 2 2nds. Didn't know Henderson had suspension time left. Seems like he served a lot of time last yr. A couple of yrs ago the Viikings wanted to trade for Henderson but it was only like a 6th rounder. don't think anybody will give anything for someone last seen walking around half naked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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