QB Bills Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Hold on...you thought EJ was better than Tyrod up until yesterday?? Yikes.. No stone-throwing here though...I thought Justin Rogers had potential until his last year here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 You dont blow up an offense that is 7th in NFL scoring any more then we should blow up a D that is 5th in the NFL. We should not repeat that mistake....we should learn from it. The Jets thought they shouldn't blow up their 11th in points offense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Keep Tyrod until you have something better. You don't cut a guy because fans don't like him. Fans are for sitting in the stands and clapping their hands, not for making decisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I shoveled dirt on my EJ Manuel jersey yesterday Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He's not good. He's not better than Tyrod. I will admit that my view and opinion of EJ's abilities was way off the mark. However, I still maintain that Tyrod, also, is not good enough and we need better. Both EJ and TT have to go. Go Bills! Well, well. I agree we need better eventually, but we also need someone to throw the ball and move the chains while looking for better, and to mentor any new QB we acquire. IMHO, the whole thing with EJ was that he was not properly developed (college yahoo coaches, no QB coach), thrown into the fire, and just generally screwed up and broken thereby. It seems to me the worst thing we could do would be to reprise EJ's rookie year where we kicked the servicable vet out the door because "we need better" and chose a fragile vet to replace him, leaving the rookie to twist on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I've been a big apologist for EJ, but he's clearly done in Buffalo. It will take a miracle for him to play in another NFL game. I too was holding out some hope he would survive and become a solid cheap back up. But wow. I too think he is done in the NFL. he appeared to feel the same way/ Sorry for your Loss Gug : ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 he was the guy we all want to be our qb. size, character, etc. but just didnt have it. tyrod is a solid bridge qb though. work on the longterm. we've gotta keep building the team. i'd actually even say we shouldn't draft a qb this year. brady came in and had instant success but had a top defense, as did wilson, as did big ben, green bay did with rodgers. we need to get this defense right first and then we can get this qb thing right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 The Jets thought they shouldn't blow up their 11th in points offense too. But effectively they did, first intentionally by waiting until just before TC to sign Fitz, then unintentionally by having the entire OL (or all but 1?) go down injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdand12 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Yeah that was just a poor take. EJ has not made any progress....guy is a BRUTALLY slow learner of the QB position.....he started FOUR bowl games in college and the incoming freshman QB was more polished than him. If you watched the preseason this past August you could have saved yourself the delusions this year. He's a good guy and QB's are scarce so he will have a backup job in the NFL for a long time, IMO. I wouldn't discount a late career Todd Collins-esque re-appearance somewhere. Collins was also a very slow learner who wasn't worth the effort early but was a very good backup at end of his long career. thing is , he still looks scared s heck. He knew the plays, he just panicked again and again. Maybe h was having JJ Watt flashbacks. I honestly felt bad for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 But effectively they did, first intentionally by waiting until just before TC to sign Fitz, then unintentionally by having the entire OL (or all but 1?) go down injured. Another year of TC wasn't fixing Fitz. They retained a deficient QB with a high price tag because they couldn't find anyone better and imploded. Bills are about to do the same thing. TT will throw 10 picks and have 12 TD's max next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) He's not good. He's not better than Tyrod. I will admit that my view and opinion of EJ's abilities was way off the mark. However, I still maintain that Tyrod, also, is not good enough and we need better. Both EJ and TT have to go. Go Bills! Okay so you came to your senses on EJ. Who do you now think is better that Taylor? Edited January 2, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 EJ looks like a NFL QB, big, steps up in pocket, big arm. Problem is, he can't throw a short pass. Bledsoe had that issue too, So did Losman. I was fooled too but unfortunately EJ is also a quitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 http://www.ebay.com/itm/3021263940301/1 cards with patches like that will always be worth a bit. Not quite that much, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 I didn't think he was better than Tyrod, but I certainly thought he was better than he had shown up until yesterday. Boy was I wrong. I expected some rust. But holy **** ... some of those passes (some = most) were terribly off the mark. It was more than rust. More than miscommunication. It was just really bad football. Okay so you came to your sense on EJ. Who do you now think is better that Taylor? Just about every other starter in the league. Bob Griffin is keeping him out of the cellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 The Jets thought they shouldn't blow up their 11th in points offense too. That is actually a interesting discussion WHat has changed about the jets this year? Their qbs rotating through like pitch hitters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 thing is , he still looks scared s heck. He knew the plays, he just panicked again and again. Maybe h was having JJ Watt flashbacks. I honestly felt bad for him Footwork was a huge issue with him and that's why it was so hysterical to see Jameis step in for EJ and execute pro footwork immediately..........kinda' killed the whole "EJ didn't get coached well enough" takes. He's a big, long arm and legged dude and with his lack of coordination between the two it may take years of work for him to pull himself together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Your opinion of EJ was like one of his passes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He's not good. He's not better than Tyrod. I will admit that my view and opinion of EJ's abilities was way off the mark. However, I still maintain that Tyrod, also, is not good enough and we need better. Both EJ and TT have to go. Go Bills! I agree about EJ, and I was one of his supporters. He really has some basic incapacity despite his physical skills. I'm glad that they played him in this game so people like us could move on with no regrets. I'm not too optimistic about TT, but I could understand if they are reluctant to axe him considering his occasional superior play and the lack of alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 That is actually a interesting discussion WHat has changed about the jets this year? Their qbs rotating through like pitch hitters Paying a bad QB because they were afraid of the unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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