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On 3/16/2018 at 12:59 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

The point is that the reports in December were wrong. 

 

That Tillerson was ousted four months later means nothing in the world of DC politics. 

 

If McMaster goes today or next week - then the stories from last night will be proven right. If McMaster goes in July, they were wrong. 

 

That's how fast things move in the beltway. 

 

The key to deciphering who's in danger and who isn't has long been established. If the MSM is banging on someone while Trump piles on in tweets - that person is a goner (Sessions being the exception that proves the rule). If the MSM is banging on someone and Trump is defending them - they're safe for the time being. 

 

It's a pattern we've seen with every single dismissal so far. 

 

It's not just McMaster moving, but who's replacing him  :)

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John Bolton is a respected lawyer and foreign policy wonk who graduated from Yale who was:
- Assistant Attorney General (1988-1989)
- Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs (1989-1993)
- The United States’ UN Ambassador (2005-2006)

 

oooooh, scary !

 

 

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7 hours ago, B-Man said:

John Bolton is a respected lawyer and foreign policy wonk who graduated from Yale who was:
- Assistant Attorney General (1988-1989)
- Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs (1989-1993)
- The United States’ UN Ambassador (2005-2006)

 

oooooh, scary !

 

 

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So McMaster, one of the last decent people in this administration, is out, and he takes on two more Fox "news" people. 

 

Bolton to start a war probably

 

And the Fox lawyer to blab away on TV after he fires Mueller

 

Danger ahead. 

 

 

All Hillary's fault, I guess 

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The Left is having a serious case of lost marbles over Bolton, which is just silly.

 

The man has been a diplomat for longer than most of these whiners have been alive.

 

But they’re so desperate to paint him as some Putin puppet who has only ever worked with Fox News that it’s nearly impossible to get them to calm down and listen.

 

Like most things.

 

President Trump bringing former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton on board to serve as national security adviser has been the source of much hyperventilation, with CNN even going out of its way to ignore certain parts of Bolton’s resume.

 

Meanwhile, among the Resistance, the triggering just went up a notch:

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John Bolton named national security adviser. It’s time to panic now. http://slate.me/2G7il83

 

 
Planned Parenthood agrees that Bolton is just dangerous:
 
 

 

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John Bolton is yet another extreme ideologue in the Trump-Pence administration's ongoing parade of dangerous appointees. https://twitter.com/Slate/status/977139531538452482 

 

 
 
Ever since the election of Trump, the Left has had the “panic” alarm on full blast, so it’s difficult for them to make it any louder.
 
And accusations of “extreme” coming from Planned Parenthood is a “pot meet kettle” moment for the ages.
 
 
 
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14 minutes ago, B-Man said:

The Left is having a serious case of lost marbles over Bolton, which is just silly.

 

The man has been a diplomat for longer than most of these whiners have been alive.

 

But they’re so desperate to paint him as some Putin puppet who has only ever worked with Fox News that it’s nearly impossible to get them to calm down and listen.

 

Like most things.

 

President Trump bringing former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton on board to serve as national security adviser has been the source of much hyperventilation, with CNN even going out of its way to ignore certain parts of Bolton’s resume.

 

Meanwhile, among the Resistance, the triggering just went up a notch:

 
Planned Parenthood agrees that Bolton is just dangerous:
 
 

 

 
 
Ever since the election of Trump, the Left has had the “panic” alarm on full blast, so it’s difficult for them to make it any louder.
 
And accusations of “extreme” coming from Planned Parenthood is a “pot meet kettle” moment for the ages.
 
 
 

 

But who doesn't turn to Planned Parenthood for their national security opinions?

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28 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

But who doesn't turn to Planned Parenthood for their national security opinions?

Times are changing though.

 

http://humanevents.com/2011/07/26/nasas-new-mission-boost-the-muslim-worlds-selfesteem/

 

Incredibly, President Obama’s other primary mission for NASA is to reach out to the Muslim world.  Last year, NASA Administrator Charles Bolden told Al Jazeera television that President Obama gave him three primary tasks: encourage children to learn about math and science, improve relations with foreign nations and “perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science … and math and engineering.”
 
It is ludicrous for NASA to be focused on Muslim outreach or boosting the self esteem of the Islamic world.  NASA should not be an arm of the State Department.  It is just another indication of how far the agency has strayed from its primary mission.

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1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

Times are changing though.

 

http://humanevents.com/2011/07/26/nasas-new-mission-boost-the-muslim-worlds-selfesteem/

 

Incredibly, President Obama’s other primary mission for NASA is to reach out to the Muslim world.  Last year, NASA Administrator Charles Bolden told Al Jazeera television that President Obama gave him three primary tasks: encourage children to learn about math and science, improve relations with foreign nations and “perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science … and math and engineering.”
 
It is ludicrous for NASA to be focused on Muslim outreach or boosting the self esteem of the Islamic world.  NASA should not be an arm of the State Department.  It is just another indication of how far the agency has strayed from its primary mission.

 

IT's not even State's job to teach Muslims about Islamic contributions to science.

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21 hours ago, B-Man said:

John Bolton is a respected lawyer and foreign policy wonk who graduated from Yale who was:
- Assistant Attorney General (1988-1989)
- Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs (1989-1993)
- The United States’ UN Ambassador (2005-2006)

 

oooooh, scary !

 

 

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Ignore the fact that he is the antithesis of everything Trump claimed to stand for,  foreign policy wise, during the campaign.  Bolton only furthers the theory that Trump has no core beliefs, only that he is using the country for his own self-serving purposes.

 

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Still on the road, had a chance to pop on. A few things re Bolton:

 

There is one (and a half) reason he was hired: Iran. It's happening, but it won't be a war. Watch. 

 

Anyone who says Bolton is a Russian plant or stooge is exposing themselves to you as either ignorant or partisan or lying. 

 

McMaster was fired for leaking. Period. Anyone worried that Bolton is going to run over Trump's agenda is ignorant, partisan, or lying. McMaster couldn't get Trump to do anything he didn't want to do. Same goes for Bolton. 

 

Anyone who says Bolton being hired is proof Trump has no core belief is ignorant or partisan or lying. Bolton's hiring sends a strong message to exactly who Trump is targeting (Iran / DPRK). Solving the issues in both those countries for the betterment of us all is and always has been a central plank in Trump's agenda. 

 

Watch who writes any of the above over the next few days - it's going to expose a lot of soft minds we can safely ignore. 

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29 minutes ago, Buftex said:

Ignore the fact that he is the antithesis of everything Trump claimed to stand for, in regards to foreign policy wise, during the campaign.  Bolton only furthers the theory that Trump has no core beliefs, only that he is using the country for his own self-serving purposes.

 

Trump is the president, not Bolton. Trump is not afraid to call other country's bluff or to cause outlaw countries like North Korea to stand up and notice who his advisors are. Remember, he's a negotiator and knows that it's pretty hard to negotiate from a weak position. Obama was a laughingstock when it came to dealing with other countries. Trump is not.

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1 hour ago, Buftex said:

Ignore the fact that he is the antithesis of everything Trump claimed to stand for,  foreign policy wise, during the campaign.  Bolton only furthers the theory that Trump has no core beliefs, only that he is using the country for his own self-serving purposes.

 

 

Trump's only purpose is self-aggrandizement.  Policy-wise, he's a weather vane, parroting the opinions of those he last talked to.  

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Just now, DC Tom said:

 

Trump's only purpose is self-aggrandizement.  Policy-wise, he's a weather vane, parroting the opinions of those he last talked to.  

 

Not when it comes to Iran or DPRK. 

 

Actions. Not words. 

 

KSA was in town for a reason this week. Iran deal is going away. That's not new. DPRK deal will be historic (it's done already). 

 

On the rest, you may have a point. 

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11 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Trump's only purpose is self-aggrandizement.  Policy-wise, he's a weather vane, parroting the opinions of those he last talked to.  

Exactly.  Precisely the reason the appointement of John Bolton scares some people.  He is the king war hawk.  And, despite his expressed distaste for "stupid wars", the one area that Trump seems to be learing he can get some praise from both sides of the aisle, is when he flexes his support for the military.

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1 minute ago, Buftex said:

Exactly.  Precisely the reason the appointement of John Bolton scares some people.  He is the king war hawk.  And, despite his expressed distaste for "stupid wars", the one area that Trump seems to be learing he can get some praise from both sides of the aisle, is when he flexes his support for the military.

 

If you think Bolton can tell trump what to do, you're not paying attention. 

 

McMaster could not get him to NOT congratulate Putin. He couldn't get him "in line" with preserving the Iran deal. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

If you think Bolton can tell trump what to do, you're not paying attention. 

 

McMaster could not get him to NOT congratulate Putin. He couldn't get him "in line" with preserving the Iran deal. 

 

I hope you are right...I just don't think McMaster would have been as likely to push Trump to staring another war, as Bolton is.  I think the whiff of starting a war excites Trump very much...Bolton is just as likely to encourage him.  

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4 minutes ago, Buftex said:

I hope you are right...I just don't think it McMaster would have been as likely to push Trump to staring another war, as Bolton is.  I think the whiff of starting a war excites Trump very much...Bolton is just as likely to encourage him.  

Your TDS is getting the best of you. How did you feel about Hillary's push for what seems like a war with Russia? 

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3 minutes ago, Buftex said:

I hope you are right...I just don't think it McMaster would have been as likely to push Trump to staring another war, as Bolton is.  I think the whiff of starting a war excites Trump very much...Bolton is just as likely to encourage him.  

 

If Trump launches an invasion of Iran (or any country) I will fully admit I was wrong. I'm (seemingly) way out on a limb in light of the most recent developments with that belief, but remember we are in an information war. 

 

Nothing is as it seems. 

 

If Trumps goal was to placate the media by giving them a war, it would have happened months ago in Syria when his harshest critics suddenly lauded him for launching cruise missiles. 

 

Bolton is there to scare the piss out of the Mullahs who are on the verge of being overthrown by the Iranian people. 

 

Once Iran is dealt with (again, I'm not meaning a war in the traditional sense), Bolton will be gone. 

 

The next NSC (imo) will be Flynn - 2019 if not sooner. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, westside said:

Your TDS is getting the best of you. How did you feel about Hillary's push for what seems like a war with Russia? 

Ha-ha! I am not necessarilly a huge Clinton fan, but I do believe she would have a coherent foreign policy, and would have filled her cabinet postions with better people than Turmps' "best people".  I have no doubt you will disagree..

 

 

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Just now, Buftex said:

Ha-ha! I am not necessarilly a huge Clinton fan, but I do believe she would have a coherent foreign policy, and would have filled her cabinet postions with better people than Turmps' "best people".  I have no doubt you will disagree..

 

 

I think Trump may be a womanizing fool, but the Clintons are straight out crooks. I'm no Trump supporter, though I did vote for him. That was the first time in over 30 years of voting that I voted republican in a presidential vote. That's how much I despise Hillary. I voted for Bill Clinton, Obama and every democratic presidential candidate in between. 

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1 hour ago, westside said:

I think Trump may be a womanizing fool, but the Clintons are straight out crooks. I'm no Trump supporter, though I did vote for him. That was the first time in over 30 years of voting that I voted republican in a presidential vote. That's how much I despise Hillary. I voted for Bill Clinton, Obama and every democratic presidential candidate in between. 

Sure, the best way to ensure that the crook doesn't get into office, is to vote for the sociopath, who happens to be as big a crook as you can imagine. You should probably reassess your voting litmus test.  

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3 minutes ago, Buftex said:

Sure, the best way to ensure that the crook doesn't get into office, is to vote for the sociopath, who happens to be as big a crook as you can imagine. You should probably reassess your voting litmus test.  

Because Hiliary Clinton was such an honest and trustworthy candidate that never lied or cheated

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10 hours ago, westside said:

I think Trump may be a womanizing fool, but the Clintons are straight out crooks. I'm no Trump supporter, though I did vote for him. That was the first time in over 30 years of voting that I voted republican in a presidential vote. That's how much I despise Hillary. I voted for Bill Clinton, Obama and every democratic presidential candidate in between. 

Pretty much a microcosm of the candidates for 2016.  

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9 hours ago, Buftex said:

Sure, the best way to ensure that the crook doesn't get into office, is to vote for the sociopath, who happens to be as big a crook as you can imagine. You should probably reassess your voting litmus test.  

Are you ssying Trumps womanizing is worse than Clintons uranium deal with Russia? How about that Clinton foundations pay to play? Not to mention how she screwed Bernie Sanders Democratic nomination from him. Yes, my litmus test is just fine. I don't understand how today's democrates can support that crooked Clinton!!

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12 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

Trump's only purpose is self-aggrandizement.  Policy-wise, he's a weather vane, parroting the opinions of those he last talked to.  

The silver lining in the Bolton thing is he probably won't get a long with Trump either. And Bolton won't be on TV so he probably won't hear what he says anymore 

12 hours ago, Buftex said:

Ha-ha! I am not necessarilly a huge Clinton fan, but I do believe she would have a coherent foreign policy, and would have filled her cabinet postions with better people than Turmps' "best people".  I have no doubt you will disagree..

 

 

There is no doubt she would be a better president. 

 

She was sec of state and that went fine. She was competent. Can you imagine Trump being Sec of State in any competent fashion? Neither can I. 

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George Will on Bolton: 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-second-most-dangerous-american/2018/03/23/90751d80-2ec6-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html?utm_term=.0fe201462f4c

 

The first two charges against the major Nazi war criminals in the 1945-1946 Nuremberg trials concerned waging aggressive war. Emboldened by the success, as he still sees it, of America’s Iraq adventure that began 15 years ago this month, Bolton, for whom a trade war with many friends and foes is insufficiently stimulating, favors real wars against North Korea and Iran. Both have odious regimes, but neither can credibly be said to be threatening an imminent attack against the United States. Nevertheless, Bolton thinks bombing both might make the world safer. What could go wrong?

Much is made of the fact that Bolton is implacably hostile to strongman Vladimir Putin, whom the U.S. president, a weak person’s idea of a strong person, admires. And of the fact that the president has repeatedly execrated the invasion of Iraq that Bolton advocated. So, today among the uneducable, furrowed brows express puzzlement: How can the president square his convictions with Bolton’s? Let’s say this one more time: Trump. Has. No. Convictions.

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

She was sec of state and that went fine. She was competent.

 

Please list her diplomatic accomplishments as Secretary of State. In fact, go ahead and list her legislative accomplishments from her days in the Senate while you're at it.

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