3rdand12 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Calvin Johnson never had a good QB and he reached his potential. Same with Eric Moulds, for that matter. Jesus Harold Christ ... how many excuses have Bills fans been making for the past 17 !@#$ing years? It's the line. It's the coaching. It's the play calling. The schedules are unfair. Other teams cheat. It's the refs. How about this ... the players !@#$ing suck and that's why this team never gets to the playoffs. Sometimes I really think you are a baseball guy at heart. Is that possible ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Belichick wins without great players. He's going to likely beat us with a grocery store stock boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 0_0 @sammywatkins Ready to go out there and compete at the highest level! 💪🏈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 0_0 @sammywatkins Ready to go out there and compete at the highest level! Yet the network bobble heads keep using the quote by Rex. And say he will probably be out. Better bs narrative I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) Yet the network bobble heads keep using the quote by Rex. And say he will probably be out. Better bs narrative I guess. Rex also said "I wouldn't count him out" after he said "it doesn't look really good right now"... I'm thinking if it's up to Sammy, he's going @profootballtalk On Friday, Rex Ryan said it's not looking good for Sammy Watkins to play. Watkins now says otherwise. Edited September 25, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Rex also said "I wouldn't count him out" after he said "it doesn't look really good right now"... I'm thinking if it's up to Sammy, he's going @profootballtalk On Friday, Rex Ryan said it's not looking good for Sammy Watkins to play. Watkins now says otherwise. Does anyone, at this point in time, take anything that comes out of this ass hole's mouth seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Does anyone, at this point in time, take anything that comes out of this ass hole's mouth seriously? hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Does anyone, at this point in time, take anything that comes out of this ass hole's mouth seriously? Rex or Sammy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Rex or Sammy? Oui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) Does anyone, at this point in time, take anything that comes out of this ass hole's mouth seriously? I'm a little confused about which end of Rex and/or Sammy you're talking about Edited September 25, 2016 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) Not living up to potential? At this point I agree with that.....but he plays through injury So, then your opinion is that he's just not very good? Why do fans allow their emotions to overrun rationality, common sense, and stiatistics? Watkins has missed 3 games as of this week, same as AJ Green did, Julio Jones, less than OBJ, etc. How does Watkins injury rate compare to other WR? It's a pretty oft-injured position I haven't heard him say much except calling for more targets and saying Woods should get targeted more 'cuz he's open every play. But hey don't let me interfere with your emotion-driven narrative The only important numbers are catches, TDs and yards. If you're going to compare him to Jones, Green or Beckham let's please talk about productivity. This is NFL football after all. Last I checked participation trophies aren't given out at this level. Edited September 25, 2016 by Cripple Creek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 The only important numbers are catches, TDs and yards. If you're going to compare him to Jones, Green or Beckham let's please talk about productivity. This is NFL football after all. Last I checked participation trophies aren't given out at this level. Well, I disagree with you on that. For example, a receiver can rack up a lot of catches on dump-offs, and passing yards in general don't happen to be tightly correlated with winning. If those three were the only stats that matter, it would be pretty silly for the burgeoning industry of stats sites (Football Outsiders, Cold Hard Football Facts etc) to set up shop, but there they are. The point is, Sammy is managing a similar productivity on a yards/game and yards/reception basis than some top WR. He also had similar TD to Green's first 2 years in the league (6 vs 7, 9 vs 11) though I'm not sure what that means as a quality metric. The Bills last year led the league in rushing attempts and were 31st in passing attempts. Sammy last year got an average of 1.5 fewer targets per game than Green which may simply reflect fewer pass plays from the Bills. To people who like to watch coach's film, he often appeared open but was not targeted. I don't know what that means. It's a mystery to me. It's silly to say "well, durn it, he didn't have as many yards or receptions as these other WR playing in a more pass-rich system so he's paltry**". That's not factual, that's not using statistics correctly, it's bending common sense and choosing stats to fit a narrative. **actual word choice may vary Putting Watkins in the same sentence as Green, Jones and Beckham Jr., feels more silly as I'm doing it than it felt when I read your post. They are all in a different league. And yes .. he is a punk ass. Demanding more targets while he's on the sidelines. His "little jobs" comment. Threw EJ under the bus in his rookie season. He's the least open receiver on the team and has been. He can't beat anyone off the ball. He won't go over the middle. He can't take a hit. And he gets injured thinking about taking one. But don't let my facts interfere with your blind love. I've said it all along and I'll say it again ... Robert Woods is the best WR on this team. Wait aren't you the guy who is always in the shoutbox claiming that EJ is the best QB on the team? Or do I have you confused with someone else? The "punk ass" bit is emotions and heart. The "least open receiver on the team" is not factual. Robert Woods has not shown himself to be the best WR on the team, but he is also open far more than he is targeted, and I believe if he were targeted more his productivity would soar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Activate Powell anyway.....just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I feel like the whole team wants to sit out until week 5 - WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Schefter is reporting he is out, per source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Schefter is reporting he is out, per source. Well that's in stark contrast to what Watkins was saying earlier. I'm surprised that they would make that decision right now even before Watkins wakes up to test it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Well that's in stark contrast to what Watkins was saying earlier. I'm surprised that they would make that decision right now even before Watkins wakes up to test it out. Yea, me too. Schefter has been wrong many times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Yea, me too. Schefter has been wrong many times before. On can only hope this is one of those times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 On can only hope this is one of those times. Quite honestly, I hope he sits out. I'm sick of the drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 So, then your opinion is that he's just not very good? The only important numbers are catches, TDs and yards. If you're going to compare him to Jones, Green or Beckham let's please talk about productivity. This is NFL football after all. Last I checked participation trophies aren't given out at this level. Welcome to the board newb, I suggest you review the TOS to ensure you don't violate any rules... Always nice to see new members. Why are you crippled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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