dave mcbride Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 It's because for two straight games and for a good portion of last season the offense couldn't do the basic things that pro teams should do. From a management's standpoint, the major things that felled the defense - communication, responsibilities and play calls were addressed and showed signs of improvement in the first two games. The offense has gone in reverse, with no apparent improvement to the things that went wrong last year. Not saying that Rex is guilt free, but if I'm scoring a unit based on preseason expectation, the offense has to take the fall. GG, the defense was absolutely terrible last night. And let's not forget that the Jets have a good defense! Re Roman, I stand by my argument that he's a better-than-average OC who gets good production out of offenses with limited QBs. This firing is an utter joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 If it's just Simms I dunno but plenty here have critiqued the lack of screen plays. Trent Dilfer had that piece where he critiqued the passing game schematically" " The tape tells him one thing: Taylor could use better teaching. “We forget these coaches are supposed to be teachers," Dilfer said. "And when they’re not, it affects the players. And unfortunately, the NFL doesn’t have all good teachers. There are a lot of guys who have coached and have ‘OC’ by their name—it doesn’t mean they can teach. Usually you can tell if a quarterback’s being developed right by what his eyes and feet are doing. That offense doesn’t have a real flow to the passing game. The feet and the eyes don’t always match what’s going on downfield. That’s not a Tyrod Taylor issue. That’s a coaching issue.” which also brought in critique from Billick: "Dilfer's old coach with the Baltimore Ravens, Brian Billick, hinted at this point on our panel two weeks back, saying "It’s what’s being called and the way they want to play it. So it’s two different conversations: Is he (Taylor) operating within the offense and can they win that way vs. is he (Taylor) going to be a legitimate, elite, upper-echelon quarterback?” Now whether Anthony Lynn can fix anything wrong there at this point in the season, who knows? Huck it! CHUCK IT! FOOOTBALLLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Look, I'm not exactly thrilled at our offense, bit Greg Roman wasn't letting Ryan Fitzpatrick make us his b*tch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 @ConorOrr Some quick thoughts on the coaching shakeup in Buffalo, via @AroundTheNFL https://t.co/BOeRk6QhKL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Except the Browns are trying something different (finally). They gave up on the fool's errand of trying to patch together a couple free agents or a stretch of a draft pick at QB in a vain attempt to go 9-7 and squeak into the playoffs. They tore it down and are starting from scratch. So we are the Browns of 2014 ... still a year away from awareness that we're not just one WR or one run-stuffing MLB away from making the playoffs. The Browns 2014 was really a Bills 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018.... and so on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 It's because for two straight games and for a good portion of last season the offense couldn't do the basic things that pro teams should do. From a management's standpoint, the major things that felled the defense - communication, responsibilities and play calls were addressed and showed signs of improvement in the first two games. The offense has gone in reverse, with no apparent improvement to the things that went wrong last year. Not saying that Rex is guilt free, but if I'm scoring a unit based on preseason expectation, the offense has to take the fall. Also, every team struggles on occasion. Over a 16-game season last year, the offense was definitely better than average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Hoo boy. Talk about revisionist history - Rex went on and on about how he worked together with Roman in Baltimore and dreamed of hiring him someday! If Rex (or his agent) is feeding this line out there ... wow. What BS. thats my thoughts as well. and if its true, it reflects real poorly in a volatile situation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Pegulla's, Whaley's and Ryan's Plan to Make the Playoffs: 1. Get players 'all in" 2. Fire Greg Roman 3. ? 4. Go to playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Hoo boy. Talk about revisionist history - Rex went on and on about how he worked together with Roman in Baltimore and dreamed of hiring him someday! If Rex (or his agent) is feeding this line out there ... wow. What BS. Dave, it's almost like they think we're all a bunch of suckers who can't wait to part with our benjamins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 It's because for two straight games and for a good portion of last season the offense couldn't do the basic things that pro teams should do. From a management's standpoint, the major things that felled the defense - communication, responsibilities and play calls were addressed and showed signs of improvement in the first two games. The offense has gone in reverse, with no apparent improvement to the things that went wrong last year. Not saying that Rex is guilt free, but if I'm scoring a unit based on preseason expectation, the offense has to take the fall. No rope for the success of last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 @ChrisTrapasso From #Bills source: "Embarrassing on national TV and consensus was they were out-coached again. No in game adjustments at all and it showed" @ChrisTrapasso #Bills source added: "Didn't have inclination they'd axe Roman today, just know management wasn't happy with the performance last night." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Well, it starts. Greg Roman fired today. Which, is kinda funny considering that I feel the defense (looking at you Stephon Gilmore!!) lost the game last night. Oh well, at least they fired somebody! Edited September 16, 2016 by Houston's #1 Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I had Greg Roman 5th on my list of top 5 problems last night. Trust the Bills to deal with the last one first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Give up 400 yards to Ryan Fitzpatrick, turn around and fire Roman. Sure, why not Do you think Rex was going to allow his brother to be fired? Dream on! There is little talent to build around on the roster. Think about it. Who can you build around that will be here in 2-3 years? Watkins can't stay healthy. Dareus is an addict. Gillmore is gone as a FA. Taylor is a stop-gap QB. Not sure about Lawson or Ragland but the Bills talent pool is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) When your offensive and defensive lines suck, I am unclear how this is Roman's fault. The first bowling pen has fallen. The rest will follow. Taylor so accurate downfield. Horror show everywhere else. Having trouble thinking of another QB like that. The short pass over the middle to McCoy was the worst. Edited September 16, 2016 by Kemp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The new OC must have promised that they would score 40 points a game to cover for the Ryan's defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Also, every team struggles on occasion. Over a 16-game season last year, the offense was definitely better than average. And that's the point. The offense was better than average and the expectation was for it to improve. But it regressed with multiplying mistakes. That is concerning because everyone was back and the scheme wasn't changing. Look at the criticism on this page before 1PM. Most of it had to do with the offense being unprepared and unimaginative. The criticism of defense is that the players got beat one on one, but mostly the players were in the right spot at the right time. But the offense has totally looked out of sync the entire short season (and all of preseason) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Greg Gabriel @greggabe 25m25 minutes ago Greg Roman is being made a scapegoat in Buffalo. The offense didn't give up 37 points. Greg Gabriel @greggabe 15m15 minutes ago The Bills D hasn't played worth a dam in the last 2 seasons yet the OC gets fired. That's sounds about right. #saveyourass Greg Gabriel @greggabe 9m9 minutes ago In the NFL when things go wrong the decision makers start pointing their fingers at subordinates. It's the game of survival and sucks If you think it's just about last night, then you haven't been paying attention. Bills offense has been anemic, stats aside. The lack of hustle resulting in DOG penalties and wasted TO's, the inability to install a REAL 2-minute offense, and a long litany of other issues like lack of pre-snap motion, non-sensical pass game design (no slants, real screens, 7 yd patterns on 3rd and 10, etc.), inability to get the ball to Sammy, etc. Roman just didn't measure up. I agree the Bills didn't go far enough, Rob and Rex should have also been gone. But we're a complete tire fire, and only a complete housecleaning, top to bottom, is going to put out that fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Do you think Rex was going to allow his brother to be fired? Dream on! There is little talent to build around on the roster. Think about it. Who can you build around that will be here in 2-3 years? Watkins can't stay healthy. Dareus is an addict. Gillmore is gone as a FA. Taylor is a stop-gap QB. Not sure about Lawson or Ragland but the Bills talent pool is pathetic. Whaley only needs more time, let's not forget CONTINUITY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 That 4th down sequence with EJ did him in along with the pathetic 1st game against the Ravens. Tyrod let him down big time. Lol no. Tyrod did not let him down. Roman's inability to call a modern offense was the problem. It won't change by next Sunday but at least Rex is on his way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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