NoSaint Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/24/new-miami-offense-making-opponents-sick-literally/ "I think you look at that game there were a couple of guys on their team throwing up while we were driving, so itll be interesting to see for four quarters if those d-lines can hold up against our tempo and the way we want to move the ball down the field" "Whenever youre in an offense where you dont huddle, and dont have to huddle, and youre always on the ball, that creates a sense of chaos for the defense so theyre running around trying to get the right personnel on the field"Will be an interesting test for our communication on defense. forcing us to simplify might even end up being a good thing, honestly. it could be an good chess match for us though. Edited August 24, 2016 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/24/new-miami-offense-making-opponents-sick-literally/ Will be an interesting test for our communication on defense. forcing us to simplify might even end up being a good thing, honestly. it could be an good chess match for us though. A hurry-up offense is always a double edged sword. If they stay on the field and sustain, it could make the opponents defense sick. If they go 3 and out a lot or hurridly make mistakes, it could make their own defense sick (from not getting any breather) especially if the opponents offense takes a ball control, stay on the field and sustain drives mentality. But yeah, it was an Achilles heal for us last year with a lot of teams trying to exploit the complexity/communication of Rex's D Edited August 24, 2016 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 3 and out doesn't make any team tired... Tannehill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Anyone notice just how bad Mario Williams looked this past week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Anyone notice just how bad Mario Williams looked this past week? He just wants to go to the beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Anyone notice just how bad Mario Williams looked this past week? Meh--he's never once put any ounce of effort into the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Meh--he's never once put any ounce of effort into the preseason. And recently stop in regular season also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 He's mentioned quite often down here and not in a positive light. The whole defense is apparently already mumbling under their breaths regarding the WIDE 9 they are running. It puts tremendous amount of strain on your LBers and Miami is very deficient at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 He's mentioned quite often down here and not in a positive light. The whole defense is apparently already mumbling under their breaths regarding the WIDE 9 they are running. It puts tremendous amount of strain on your LBers and Miami is very deficient at that position. but......I thought Miami's D was PERFECT for Mario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 He's mentioned quite often down here and not in a positive light. The whole defense is apparently already mumbling under their breaths regarding the WIDE 9 they are running. It puts tremendous amount of strain on your LBers and Miami is very deficient at that position. Kiko taking a hit also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Kiko taking a hit also Yes, completely lost as well. Remember he didn't play in the WIDE 9, was injured that year under Schwartz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 but......I thought Miami's D was PERFECT for Mario? its august still.... schematically its a good fit. its also pretty basic for him in terms of assignments so its not like killing himself in preseason is highly beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Anyone notice just how bad Mario Williams looked this past week? Remember all those dominant Bruce Smith preseason games? Oh wait, he faked injuries and skipped camp most of the time. For long term vets with their spots secured, preseason is just something you hope to get out of without an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) Worked wonders for Chip Kelly and the Iggles... Edited August 24, 2016 by QuoteTheRaven83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 A hurry-up offense is always a double edged sword. If they stay on the field and sustain, it could make the opponents defense sick. If they go 3 and out a lot or hurridly make mistakes, it could make their own defense sick (from not getting any breather) especially if the opponents offense takes a ball control, stay on the field and sustain drives mentality. But yeah, it was an Achilles heal for us last year with a lot of teams trying to exploit the complexity/communication of Rex's D Good post. I hate when teams say they are going to be a strictly hurry up team. It's stupid. I think you need to switch up the tempo at various times through the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Remember all those dominant Bruce Smith preseason games? Oh wait, he faked injuries and skipped camp most of the time. For long term vets with their spots secured, preseason is just something you hope to get out of without an injury. Not when you are on a new team, new system and are coming of a year remembered for basically quitting on your team mates. I respectfully disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 He's mentioned quite often down here and not in a positive light. The whole defense is apparently already mumbling under their breaths regarding the WIDE 9 they are running. It puts tremendous amount of strain on your LBers and Miami is very deficient at that position. And their defensive backfield stinks too, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Not when you are on a new team, new system and are coming of a year remembered for basically quitting on your team mates. I respectfully disagree. No one will give 2 craps about preseason game 2 once the regular season starts. And no player in Miami probably even remembers what happen to Mario in Buffalo. Players don't care as much as media or fans do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 Not when you are on a new team, new system and are coming of a year remembered for basically quitting on your team mates. I respectfully disagree. it doesnt sound like its a new system for him. and i dont think he cares what fans think of him. if he shows up in september itll be a total non-story though. if i was the GM i might be a little anxious about that, but if he was playing 110% and like it was the super bowl i might be even more worried in august. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 you want to stall so your own defense can rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Didnt Philly recently try this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 No one will give 2 craps about preseason game 2 once the regular season starts. And no player in Miami probably even remembers what happen to Mario in Buffalo. Players don't care as much as media or fans do. in fact, their first hand experience with mario was him abusing them a few times. playing in this scheme against them he racked up 4.5 sacks in 2 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Didnt Philly recently try this? Like i said...It worked wonders for Chip and the Iggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 A hurry-up offense is always a double edged sword. If they stay on the field and sustain, it could make the opponents defense sick. If they go 3 and out a lot or hurridly make mistakes, it could make their own defense sick (from not getting any breather) especially if the opponents offense takes a ball control, stay on the field and sustain drives mentality. But yeah, it was an Achilles heal for us last year with a lot of teams trying to exploit the complexity/communication of Rex's D As we all saw in SB 25 ball control is the kryptonite to this style. Good thing the Bills employ it! On a side note... Playing sports year round as a kid I never once threw up from playing. It would really surprise me if a professional athlete would in the second preseason game where I doubt they are going 110% and are only playing for a quarter or 2. Nobody else has substantiated this comment from Landry and I'm thinking it may be a bit of hyperbole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 in fact, their first hand experience with mario was him abusing them a few times. playing in this scheme against them he racked up 4.5 sacks in 2 games For Miami and Tannehill, it was a win to just get rid of Mario from the Bills. Mario nearly killed RT a few times and single handedly beat them one game. But he's the worst football player ever now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I'm not scared of Miami's hurry up offense at all... If it was another team like Pittsburgh talking about running it, I'd be worried. Sounds much like Buffalo's plans to run the hurry up in recent years. Great idea, unless your team sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 For Miami and Tannehill, it was a win to just get rid of Mario from the Bills. Mario nearly killed RT a few times and single handedly beat them one game. But he's the worst football player ever now! yea, mario motivated against the right side of our line worries me a little. we will see what roman/kromer put together to keep him in check though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I'm not scared of Miami's hurry up offense at all... If it was another team like Pittsburgh talking about running it, I'd be worried. Sounds much like Buffalo's plans to run the hurry up in recent years. Great idea, unless your team sucks. If Miami was smart, they would allow RT to move around move. He will never be a great pocket qb but he is one of the most athletic Qbs in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Anyone notice just how bad Mario Williams looked this past week? http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2016/08/mario-williams-dolphins-debut-leads-to-questions.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 No one will give 2 craps about preseason game 2 once the regular season starts. And no player in Miami probably even remembers what happen to Mario in Buffalo. Players don't care as much as media or fans do. Who's talking about the fans and what they think? I am talking about media comments made from his struggles in practice and remarks made by NFL GMs during the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2016/08/mario-williams-dolphins-debut-leads-to-questions.html In the comments there, someone's bitching that they've fallen short the past four years, and when is it going to change?... How quaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 it doesnt sound like its a new system for him. and i dont think he cares what fans think of him. if he shows up in september itll be a total non-story though. if i was the GM i might be a little anxious about that, but if he was playing 110% and like it was the super bowl i might be even more worried in august. Again, not talking about the fans perception. I get that of he opens the season with 3 sacks its a non-issue. Im just telling you what the word is in So Fla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2016/08/mario-williams-dolphins-debut-leads-to-questions.html What kind of article is that? I felt like I was reading a typical post on TBD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 For Miami and Tannehill, it was a win to just get rid of Mario from the Bills. Mario nearly killed RT a few times and single handedly beat them one game. But he's the worst football player ever now! Watch the film from last year. What a difference a year makes....and stop over exaggerating, no one called him the worst player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 What kind of article is that? I felt like I was reading a typical post on TBD... Dolphins beat writers are pretty much the worst. At least it wasn't Omar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 And their defensive backfield stinks too, right? Their starting #1 CB is Byron Maxwell. And they cut Grimes to fit him. 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) He's mentioned quite often down here and not in a positive light. The whole defense is apparently already mumbling under their breaths regarding the WIDE 9 they are running. It puts tremendous amount of strain on your LBers and Miami is very deficient at that position. Sounds like coaching issue to me. Not a Mario issue. Edited August 24, 2016 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Remember all those dominant Bruce Smith preseason games? Oh wait, he faked injuries and skipped camp most of the time. For long term vets with their spots secured, preseason is just something you hope to get out of without an injury. Yes, Bruce liked to take it easy during the preseason, but come opening day, and every day thereafter, he was ready to bring it. ( once he matured after his first year or two) Mario likes to turn it up when he feels like it. He is not nearly the player Bruce was and never will be. They should not be mentioned in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 What kind of article is that? I felt like I was reading a typical post on TBD... Dolphins beat writers are pretty much the worst. At least it wasn't Omar. Can we trade Sully and Bucky to them for writers to be named in the future? I am sure their bashing of Bills would make them popular there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Yes, Bruce liked to take it easy during the preseason, but come opening day, and every day thereafter, he was ready to bring it. ( once he matured after his first year or two) Mario likes to turn it up when he feels like it. He is not nearly the player Bruce was and never will be. They should not be mentioned in the same sentence. 1) I consider Bruce the best player to ever play for the Bills, not including probable murderers. He is arguably a top 3 DE of all time. But, let's not pretend like Bruce wasn't without his faults. The guy missed a playoff game with a "flu." And let's not pretend like he went hard every snap of his career. That's the beauty of being a DE. One tackle of a qb a game gets you a lot of money. 2) no one will be as good as Bruce. But no one was questioning Mario prior to Rex. And Mario was right. The defense sucked. 3) prior to Rex, Mario was the 2nd best DE in Bills' history. He was really, really good and one of the franchise's best FA signings ever. With the season starting, it's time to turn the page. Personally, I'd rather have an elite talent at a premium position over what looks like an average at best head coach. If Rex's defense shows improvement and Mario looks like a player who is rapid decline, I will gladly admit I was completely wrong. But give the plan to replace Mario, it looks very, very flawed. This could be the Levitre situation all over again but Mario was much, much better than him and plays a much important position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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