YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) @Adamschefter Big ramifications: NFLs competition committee considering a rule that would eliminate the chop block for 2016 season, per league sources. Could negatively impact Bills run game/offense... Doomed Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 @Adamschefter Big ramifications: NFLs competition committee considering a rule that would eliminate the chop block for 2016 season, per league sources. Could negatively impact Bills run game/offense... Doomed Would they only enforce it against the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Would they only enforce it against the Bills? ? Their offense is run based... Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Because of injuries? Where should they draw the line for considering rule changes for the sake of reducing injuries? Edited February 29, 2016 by LeGOATski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Chop block is legal now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Because of injuries? Where should they draw the line for considering rule changes? hopefully they draw it here. It would be disastrous for run based offenses.Chop block is legal now?only legal on run plays. Illegal on passing plays. They want to eliminate it altogether. Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Because of injuries? Where should they draw the line for considering rule changes for the sake of reducing injuries? When the over/under reaches 60 points for every game on the schedule, would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 hopefully they draw it here. It would be disastrous for run based offenses. only legal on run plays. Illegal on passing plays. They want to eliminate it altogether. And illegal when the defender is engaged with another offensive player. I think they have already set good limitations for it. Under Marrone, I hated that the Bills' linemen would do it in the open field against agile DBs/LBs...it was not effective and frustrated me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) And illegal when the defender is engaged with another offensive player. I think they have already set good limitations for it. Under Marrone, I hated that the Bills' linemen would do it in the open field against agile DBs/LBs...it was not effective and frustrated me. o-linemen were still allowed to do it if they were lined up next to each other to start the play. I would be interested to know how much the Bills utilized this blocking technique in 2015 with Roman. Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 If launching the crown of your helmet into the face of a running back, knocking him out cold and causing a fumble is still legal, the NFL remains a tone deaf joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 If launching the crown of your helmet into the face of a running back, knocking him out cold and causing a fumble is still legal, the NFL remains a tone deaf joke. Is it? I think that would fall under referee incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Is it? I think that would fall under referee incompetence. Apparently it is http://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/ryan-shazier-gio-bernard-hit/ Edited February 29, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 hopefully they draw it here. It would be disastrous for run based offenses. only legal on run plays. Illegal on passing plays. They want to eliminate it altogether. It seems illogical to me that a certain type of block is legal on some plays and not others. When does a passing play turn into a running play and vice versa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 It seems illogical to me that a certain type of block is legal on some plays and not others. When does a passing play turn into a running play and vice versa? You've entered the NFL Rule Book Grey Area. Have fun. Apparently it is http://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/ryan-shazier-gio-bernard-hit/ That article seems to say that it should have been illegal, but the refs got it wrong. Did I interpret that correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Chop block is legal now? The illegal chop block is illegal now. If a defender is not already engaged, you are free to chop him. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 This is a major load of crap. Its so easy to chop block and most good OL frown upon it. No one can survive as a glod OL with just being able to chop block. And at times players will slip, will fall and thus chop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Maybe they should continue working on the definition of a catch first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 You've entered the NFL Rule Book Grey Area. Have fun. That article seems to say that it should have been illegal, but the refs got it wrong. Did I interpret that correctly? it said the refs were correct in not flagging him, and he wasn't fined. The NFL said Gio had the ball long enough to become a runner and therefore he wasnt defenseless. Since he wasnt defenseless, he could be hit in the head or neck area, and with the helmet. The ban against use of the crown of the helmet doesnt apply in a bang-bang situation. It requires the person delivering the blow with the crown of the helmet to line up the target. In this case they believe it was "bang-bang." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 RIP it is http://deadspin.com/nfl-makes-all-chop-blocks-illegal-1766406117?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 RIP it is http://deadspin.com/nfl-makes-all-chop-blocks-illegal-1766406117?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow I have heard before where OL coach's have said you would NOT be able to effectively run the ball in the NFL without the ability to chop block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 @shaunohara Rule change on #ChopBlock will be hard to enforce. Judgement call by ref, am I ENGAGED or AVOIDING the DL? #GoodLuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 @Adamschefter Big ramifications: NFLs competition committee considering a rule that would eliminate the chop block for 2016 season, per league sources. Could negatively impact Bills run game/offense... Doomed I don't think we could fail to make the playoffs any harder. We're doing a good job of not reaching them without the ramifications of this new rule. Point is, we can't be any more doomed than we already are. ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 There is a difference between a chop block and a cut block. I believe what they're talking about here is the cut block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 There is a difference between a chop block and a cut block. I believe what they're talking about here is the cut block.this is actually the chop block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 @salsports Seems to be confusion on Chop Block vs. Cut Block and what the new rule means exactly. So, I tried to help. Here: http://www.wgr550.com/pages/22593959.php?contentType=4&contentId=18594982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 It might mean more QB injuries if defenders get past OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Zone blocking run heavy teams will be hurt the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 What the elimination of the chop block means http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/3/23/11288894/nfl-rules-changes-chop-blocks-cut-blocks-legal-illegal-explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 John Harbaugh speaks out on new chop block rule http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/24/john-harbaugh-speaks-out-against-the-chop-block-ban/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Why is it the only thing that goes through my mind when I see this is ?....one more judgement call for the refs to f-up games with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Why is it the only thing that goes through my mind when I see this is ?....one more judgement call for the refs to f-up games with.oh - for sure. That was my thought too. I predict it will be called inconsistently :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) I'm not following the judgement thing. It sounds like anytime you block a guy low when he's already engaged, run or pass, it's a penalty. Where's the judgement call? Edited March 24, 2016 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Anyone bored enough to figure out how many times we would've been called for the new penalty in 2015? PFF (They like to watch every play right)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBuffaloKid Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 NFFL National Flag Football League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 I'm not following the judgement thing. It sounds like anytime you block a guy low when he's already engaged, run or pass, it's a penalty. Where's the judgement call?i think it's at the point of whether or not he's engaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Yes it is the chop block where a guy goes high and another goes low. The cut block is downfield, and DB's you still have to deal with it. As far as the impact on our running game, I don't know at this point. We'll find out in 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 i think it's at the point of whether or not he's engaged As far as judgement calls go, I'd say this one is pretty clear. It's nothing like PI for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Lol, they called the Bills for it anyway, can't say I really care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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