Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi thread

[BigDingus]

2 hours ago, Steptide said:

Is this the final star wars? Or are the new ones a trilogy? 

 

Force Awakens was officially Episode 7, this is 8, and episode 9 will be in 2019. It's part of a new Trilogy but still directly following the original movies.

 

But like BillsEnthusiast said, they are doing stand alone stories like Rogue One for the years in between. Next year will be the Han Solo stand alone film, and 2020 will have another one (speculated to be an Obi-Wan film with Ewan McGregor reprising his role).

One more "but," Disney apparently LOVED Rian Johnson's job with The Last Jedi (this movie) so much, they just announced they're handing him the reigns to make a 100% completely new trilogy set in an entirely different part of the galaxy and unrelated to any of the previous movies. From the Original Trilogy to the prequels and now to this new trilogy, they've all been connected to the Skywalkers and the battle between Jedi & Sith. What Rian Johnson was given was complete freedom to go his own route, completely unrelated to any of those aspects, and offer us a completely different story from another corner of the galaxy.

But there's no announcement on when writing or casting will begin on those, and it may not be for several years down the line.

[Rico]

Just got back from 3D IMAX, big thumbs up, very entertaining, especially the last hour or so.

[BigDingus]

2 minutes ago, Rico said:

Just got back from 3D IMAX, big thumbs up, very entertaining, especially the last hour or so.

 

I wish I could see it in IMAX 3D, but all the showings in my area were booked for days. I don't trust the internet to keep from spoiling me for that long, so I NEEDED to see it opening night or just accept everything of importance would be let out before I even had a chance to see it lol

[Punching Bag]

May go to matinee tomorrow before work.

[Fadingpain]

I have read on other forums that those who saw it already thought it was really disappointing and possibly the worst of all them to date!

 

I will still go see it anyway.

 

 

[BigDingus]

24 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

I have read on other forums that those who saw it already thought it was really disappointing and possibly the worst of all them to date!

 

I will still go see it anyway.

 

 

 

Whoa... So far I haven't yet heard anything negative about the movie. The worst opinions I could find only said there were some big reveals that could be polarizing, & the Finn/Rose plotline is not as good as the rest of the movie. Hmmm...can't please everyone I guess

[apuszczalowski]

42 minutes ago, Rico said:

Just got back from 3D IMAX, big thumbs up, very entertaining, especially the last hour or so.

Just got back too, Can you believe that ending, when Captain Kirk shows up with the enterprise and saves the day? WOW

1 hour ago, BigDingus said:

 

Force Awakens was officially Episode 7, this is 8, and episode 9 will be in 2019. It's part of a new Trilogy but still directly following the original movies.

 

But like BillsEnthusiast said, they are doing stand alone stories like Rogue One for the years in between. Next year will be the Han Solo stand alone film, and 2020 will have another one (speculated to be an Obi-Wan film with Ewan McGregor reprising his role).

One more "but," Disney apparently LOVED Rian Johnson's job with The Last Jedi (this movie) so much, they just announced they're handing him the reigns to make a 100% completely new trilogy set in an entirely different part of the galaxy and unrelated to any of the previous movies. From the Original Trilogy to the prequels and now to this new trilogy, they've all been connected to the Skywalkers and the battle between Jedi & Sith. What Rian Johnson was given was complete freedom to go his own route, completely unrelated to any of those aspects, and offer us a completely different story from another corner of the galaxy.

But there's no announcement on when writing or casting will begin on those, and it may not be for several years down the line.

I thought the 3rd stand alone was a Bobba Fett origin story, similar to the Han Solo one next year

[Rico]

10 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

Whoa... So far I haven't yet heard anything negative about the movie. The worst opinions I could find only said there were some big reveals that could be polarizing, & the Finn/Rose plotline is not as good as the rest of the movie. Hmmm...can't please everyone I guess

Well I just read some spoilers and it seems most of the fanboys are upset because some things didn't play out the way they wanted them to. Me, I just want to be entertained, and I've had a lot more fun with VII, VIII, and Rogue One than I had with the crappy I thru III.

 

Star Wars is still my fav, because I was a freshman in college that year & saw it a ton... Empire still the best.

Edited December 15, 2017 by Rico

[Fadingpain]

1 hour ago, Rico said:

Well I just read some spoilers and it seems most of the fanboys are upset because some things didn't play out the way they wanted them to. Me, I just want to be entertained, and I've had a lot more fun with VII, VIII, and Rogue One than I had with the crappy I thru III.

 

Star Wars is still my fav, because I was a freshman in college that year & saw it a ton... Empire still the best.

Almost everyone always says ESB is the best.  That used to be one of my favorites but I really think Rogue One stands on its own as hand's down the best of the lot.  Like it was actually a good movie.

 

These Star Wars movies are NOT good films, if you get right down to it.

 

Which is funny, b/c I'm a huge fan and they must be the most successful movie franchise in history.  And they seem to enjoy universal appeal all over the planet.

 

But be honest, they really aren't very good films.  "Rebel scum."

 

LOL

 

 

[GETTOTHE50]

The Last Jedi still fails to capture the magic of the original three.

 

I cant rank the originals, but i love them all.

 

i think phantom menace is the next best, with 5th being rogue one.

 

back to the last jedi.

 

i'd watch it a second time. ill never watch the force awakens again. that movie is straight up crap.

 

i think TLJ its better than TFA, but idk by how much.

 

 

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just got back. Maybe my expectations were too high...

[May Day 10]

I thought it was a pretty poor Star Wars movie to be honest.  Im not that hard to please either, I think people are way too harsh on I-III.  

 

I think I still need to let it settle in.  I didn't hate it, and really liked and enjoyed certain things.  Lots I didn't like, some sloppiness/laziness in writing IMO.  I really am not at a point where I'm in huge anticipation of IX.

[apuszczalowski]

8 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

Almost everyone always says ESB is the best.  That used to be one of my favorites but I really think Rogue One stands on its own as hand's down the best of the lot.  Like it was actually a good movie.

 

These Star Wars movies are NOT good films, if you get right down to it.

 

Which is funny, b/c I'm a huge fan and they must be the most successful movie franchise in history.  And they seem to enjoy universal appeal all over the planet.

 

But be honest, they really aren't very good films.  "Rebel scum."

 

LOL

 

 

They definitely aren't "Oscar worthy masterpieces of film" but it depends on what you feel are "good movies". Most of the Oscar movies aren't good when it comes to entertainment value, but we are told they are great because of the acting or cinematography. These films are good cause they are entertaining, even if the acting might not be the best or the writing isn't top notch. They are never supposed to be academy award winners

 

I thought this one and the force awakens were good. I did notice last night that the last jedi seemed to have a lot more attempts at humor and jokes then I can remember in the others which might be the work of Disney. Otherwise I was entertained, not bored and would watch it again.

 

Some of it too, like the Marvel movies, I was never huge into comic books or the written stories/books of My of the characters so I don't get angered because some character was portrayed different then the books, or they shouldn't have been killed off so quickly. (I didn't get angry watching Iron man 3 because of how they portrayed the Mandarin). I find that helps sometimes.

[Joe Miner]

I wasn't the biggest fan of the 1st half of the movie.  Pretty sloppy storylines IMO.

 

But the second half took off.  Fantastic second half. I certainly left excited for episode 9.

 

I like a good 2+ hour movie, but this one could have easily been edited down to 90 minutes and made it great.  I thought there was just too much fluff and wasted time in general, especially in the first half.  They bogged down the story they wanted to tell with a bunch of crappy side stories.

Edited December 15, 2017 by Joe Miner

[Roundybout]

9 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

The Last Jedi still fails to capture the magic of the original three.

 

I cant rank the originals, but i love them all.

 

i think phantom menace is the next best, with 5th being rogue one.

 

back to the last jedi.

 

i'd watch it a second time. ill never watch the force awakens again. that movie is straight up crap.

 

i think TLJ its better than TFA, but idk by how much.

 

 

 

what for real? 

 

For me its

 

ESB

ROJ

RO

ANH
ROTS

FA
PM

AOC. <<<- "lets see how much stuff we can throw on the screen"

[May Day 10]

For me:

Return-Jedi

Empire Strikes

New Hope

Force Awakens

Rogue One

Sith

Last Jedi

Clones

Phantom Menace

[Mark Vader]

I loved it!

 

Yes there is a lot going on in this movie, probably too much.

 

I agree with apuszczalowski, the attempts at humor was a bit forced, but that could be Disney & Kathleen Kennedy doing that.

 

This movie has more depth than "The Force Awakens". I don't pay any attention to what the fanboys say. All they do is talk about what they would have done if they had made this movie. Well I'm sorry, but  you didn't make this movie, grow up and get over yourselves.

 

I agree with everyone that the last hour is very thrilling. There was concern that since "The Force Awakens" was just a remake of "A New Hope", that "The Last Jedi" would be a remake of "The Empire Strikes Back". I can honestly say, that is not the case.

 

Great job by Rian Johnson, and I really liked Benicio Del Toro's character in this movie. Looking forward to Episode IX.

Edited December 15, 2017 by Mark Vader

[BigDingus]

12 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

The Last Jedi still fails to capture the magic of the original three.

 

I cant rank the originals, but i love them all.

 

i think phantom menace is the next best, with 5th being rogue one.

 

back to the last jedi.

 

i'd watch it a second time. ill never watch the force awakens again. that movie is straight up crap.

 

i think TLJ its better than TFA, but idk by how much.

 

 

 

Phantom Menaces being the best? What?

And how do you just pick Rogue One as 5th without ranking the others?

I really enjoyed Last Jedi! I was pretty confused about some of the stuff that ended up happening, but I'm sure I'll find out more about it later.

[GETTOTHE50]

18 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

Phantom Menaces being the best? What?

And how do you just pick Rogue One as 5th without ranking the others?

I really enjoyed Last Jedi! I was pretty confused about some of the stuff that ended up happening, but I'm sure I'll find out more about it later.

 

Idk how to rank the original trilogy, they could all be 1-3.

 

i put phantom menace 4. Why? Because I think Liam neeson plays a strong lead, we don't have to deal with anakins crappy lines, and because maul, I think, was the best villain of the prequels. The lightsaber duel is awesome in that movie. 

[Tiberius]

 The Death Star could of just flew away from those little fighters. Isn't that right? The little fighters would have been way slower than a big death star if the thing was a space ship. 

 

 

 

[Fadingpain]

In my opinion, older Star Wars fans gravitate to the original trilogy as "the best" simply b/c we were all little kids or at least young when those movies came out, and so they spoke to us in a way no movie is going to once you are an adult.  They seemed better to us than they were.  

 

All of the original 3 movies, when simply viewed as films and judged by the standards of great films, are horrible movies.

 

George Lucas was afraid they were going to be bombs that ruined his career, and he was the guy making them.  He was right.

 

Explaining their unbelievable popularity/appeal is difficult, but interesting.  I think they stand up mostly for their excellent visual effects which were quite good for 1977 and later.  

 

Lucas also went with a "beaten up and used, real world" look to everything in his universe which was visually interesting and possibly unique at the time. I.E., these were "advanced" civilizations relative to the people watching the films in movie theaters, yet these advanced people still lived in a  real world of mechanical failures, repairs, rust, and so on.

 

The story lines are totally derivative, the acting is, for the most part, horrible, the writing is terrible, the casting is worse than the acting, for the most part....

 

And yet they remain really cool movies that are fun to watch.

 

Their artistic direction/set design/visual effects/costume design...all that sort of thing.. are all A+.  

 

I think that is 100% what makes the movies. 

 

 

[Mark Vader]

18 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 The Death Star could of just flew away from those little fighters. Isn't that right? The little fighters would have been way slower than a big death star if the thing was a space ship. 

 

 

 

"Well, the Empire doesn't consider a small one-man fighter to be any threat. Or they'd have a tighter defense."

[Fadingpain]

35 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

 

Idk how to rank the original trilogy, they could all be 1-3.

 

i put phantom menace 4. Why? Because I think Liam neeson plays a strong lead, we don't have to deal with anakins crappy lines, and because maul, I think, was the best villain of the prequels. The lightsaber duel is awesome in that movie. 

Phantom Menace was pretty lousy, but I did enjoy the 3-person light saber duel which was kind of unique at the time, and also how the bad guy with red face had a 2-ended light saber which was definitely a first.

 

Their duel was fantastic and the choreography was really cool.  The decision to give red face the long, flowing garment was great, b/c it would fly all over Kung-Fu style when he did flips and stuff and looked visually fantastic.  The way his body slowly drifted into 2 pieces as he fell down the bottomless pit was also cool and artistic.

 

BUT:  that whole scene is beyond infuriating b/c Lucas, as always, felt the need to chop the duel up into about 8 separate scenes, with annoying disruptions interspersed throughout.  Totally destroyed any presence or gravity the fight had, and is just annoying.

 

There is actually a clip on youtube where someone editing out all the distractions, and just splice the fight sequences together; that is much, much better than what appeared in the actual film.

My God I hate George Lucas' approach to film making.  For a guy who invented the most popular movie franchise of all time and built a net worth of like $3.5 billion in the process, he sucks as a movie maker!

 

LOL.

 

 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

"Well, the Empire doesn't consider a small one-man fighter to be any threat. Or they'd have a tighter defense."

 Right! Good point. And if they did they could have just flown around the tiny slow fighters 

[Mark Vader]

8 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

In my opinion, older Star Wars fans gravitate to the original trilogy as "the best" simply b/c we were all little kids or at least young when those movies came out, and so they spoke to us in a way no movie is going to once you are an adult.  They seemed better to us than they were.  

 

All of the original 3 movies, when simply viewed as films and judged by the standards of great films, are horrible movies.

 

George Lucas was afraid they were going to be bombs that ruined his career, and he was the guy making them.  He was right.

 

Explaining their unbelievable popularity/appeal is difficult, but interesting.  I think they stand up mostly for their excellent visual effects which were quite good for 1977 and later.  

 

Lucas also went with a "beaten up and used, real world" look to everything in his universe which was visually interesting and possibly unique at the time. I.E., these were "advanced" civilizations relative to the people watching the films in movie theaters, yet these advanced people still lived in a  real world of mechanical failures, repairs, rust, and so on.

 

The story lines are totally derivative, the acting is, for the most part, horrible, the writing is terrible, the casting is worse than the acting, for the most part....

 

And yet they remain really cool movies that are fun to watch.

 

Their artistic direction/set design/visual effects/costume design...all that sort of thing.. are all A+.  

 

I think that is 100% what makes the movies. 

 

 

You have a most unusual approach to these movies.

 

I agree with you that most Star Wars fans will call the original trilogy the best. Although I think "Return of the Jedi" is just alright.

 

I don't see where you are coming from on the thought that these movies are horrible, no matter what you are comparing them too. I've seen horrible movies, and that is not what I get from watching any of the Star Wars films.

 

Granted the writing in these movies are nothing special. What George Lucas lacks in that area, he makes up for in story telling.

 

I also agree with you that it's the visuals that are what sticks with most fans. The special effects at the time were dazzling, and are still very impressive even to this day. Considering that they were using models back then.

 

There are also a lot of memorable shots from these films that stay with you after you've seen them.

 

Your final point is what really personifies these movies.....they are FUN. That is the one thing that makes them enjoyable.

[Fadingpain]

13 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

You have a most unusual approach to these movies.

 

I agree with you that most Star Wars fans will call the original trilogy the best. Although I think "Return of the Jedi" is just alright.

 

I don't see where you are coming from on the thought that these movies are horrible, no matter what you are comparing them too. I've seen horrible movies, and that is not what I get from watching any of the Star Wars films.

 

Granted the writing in these movies are nothing special. What George Lucas lacks in that area, he makes up for in story telling.

 

I also agree with you that it's the visuals that are what sticks with most fans. The special effects at the time were dazzling, and are still very impressive even to this day. Considering that they were using models back then.

 

There are also a lot of memorable shots from these films that stay with you after you've seen them.

 

Your final point is what really personifies these movies.....they are FUN. That is the one thing that makes them enjoyable.

Lucas is a tech-nerd who is interested in that end of film making and only that end of film making.  He obviously has no use for things like good actors. 

 

I stand by my statement that the films are, for the most part, bad films.  Acting is terrible, casting is worse, dialogue might be worse  than that.  The script is the life blood of any film; the script in all these movies "Rebel Scum!" is beyond bad.

 

Lucas wanted to make old fashioned serials for kids and he succeeded.

I love these movies, but I was 6 when the first one came out.  Not sure I would have been hooked had I seen the first movie when I was an adult.

 

Having said that, the special effects in the newest films are really quite good and the movies make nice eye candy if you enjoy watching things fly around, blow up,  etc.

 

But comparing any of these Star Wars films to any true classic like The Godfather, Apocalypse Now, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Dr. Strangelove, Citizen Kane (going down my personal top 10 here in no order)...is ridiculous.

 

They aren't even in the same world as "work of art" films.

 

If you are into sci-fi space films and want true ahead-of-its time special effects, go back and watch 2001 again.

 

That movie was 1968 I believe; incredible how good that film looks; it completely holds up today.

 

 

[Mark Vader]

3 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

Lucas is a tech-nerd who is interested in that end of film making and only that end of film making.  He obviously has no use for things like good actors. 

 

I stand by my statement that the films are, for the most part, bad films.  Acting is terrible, casting is worse, dialogue might be worse  than that.  The script is the life blood of any film; the script in all these movies "Rebel Scum!" is beyond bad.

 

Lucas wanted to make old fashioned serials for kids and he succeeded.

I love these movies, but I was 6 when the first one came out.  Not sure I would have been hooked had I seen the first movie when I was an adult.

 

Having said that, the special effects in the newest films are really quite good and the movies make nice eye candy if you enjoy watching things fly around, blow up,  etc.

 

But comparing any of these Star Wars films to any true classic like The Godfather, Apocalypse Now, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Dr. Strangelove, Citizen Kane (going down my personal top 10 here in no order)...is ridiculous.

 

They aren't even in the same world as "work of art" films.

 

If you are into sci-fi space films and want true ahead-of-its time special effects, go back and watch 2001 again.

 

That movie was 1968 I believe; incredible how good that film looks; it completely holds up today.

 

 

I see your point, and I guess it's all about perspective.

 

I grew up watching "Star Wars" and I still watch them today. Yes, they may not be the greatest movies ever made, but they do have their charm, and they are very enjoyable. I will disagree on them being terrible movies. Yes, some of the writing is bad, especially in "Phantom Menace" & "Attack of the Clones".

 

Do you feel that the current Star Wars films are better made, now that Lucas is out of the picture? As much as I enjoyed "The Force Awakens", I will also admit that "Rogue One" was a damn good movie.

 

As for "2001: A Space Odyssey", I agree it's a remarkable film, and yes it was made in 1968. The one drawback to "2001" is that it is one of the slowest paced movies ever made. That doesn't bother me, because it is an artsy movie, but it's not for everyone. My all-time favorite Disney movie is "Fantasia", that film is a complete work of art, and that was made in 1940. Again people might not see what the big deal is about "Fantasia".

 

I'm curious to know, would you hold the same type of feeling to a movie like "JAWS"? Which when you get down to it is basically a glorified monster movie and it just hit it big.

[Billsfansinceday1]

We are looking forward to seeing the movie.

 

While touring Ireland in May of 2016, we saw huge vans winding up a narrow road to the cliffs of the Dingle Peninsula.  They were filming The Last Jedi.  The locals in the pubs were very hush hush and armed guards blocked the road up to the site.

 

i would post pics but they are too large for this website.  It’s hard to find pics less than .2MB.

[LeGOATski]

Seeing it tonight. Star Wars is my favorite movie franchise.

 

It's iconic. 

 

I am one with the force and the force is with me.

Edited December 16, 2017 by LeGOATski

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On 12/14/2017 at 6:32 PM, DC Tom said:

 

Return of the Jedi was the best...from a certain point of view.

You don't have to hide it anymore.  We already know about your secret Ewok fetish

[Dr. Who]

15 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

I see your point, and I guess it's all about perspective.

 

I grew up watching "Star Wars" and I still watch them today. Yes, they may not be the greatest movies ever made, but they do have their charm, and they are very enjoyable. I will disagree on them being terrible movies. Yes, some of the writing is bad, especially in "Phantom Menace" & "Attack of the Clones".

 

Do you feel that the current Star Wars films are better made, now that Lucas is out of the picture? As much as I enjoyed "The Force Awakens", I will also admit that "Rogue One" was a damn good movie.

 

As for "2001: A Space Odyssey", I agree it's a remarkable film, and yes it was made in 1968. The one drawback to "2001" is that it is one of the slowest paced movies ever made. That doesn't bother me, because it is an artsy movie, but it's not for everyone. My all-time favorite Disney movie is "Fantasia", that film is a complete work of art, and that was made in 1940. Again people might not see what the big deal is about "Fantasia".

 

I'm curious to know, would you hold the same type of feeling to a movie like "JAWS"? Which when you get down to it is basically a glorified monster movie and it just hit it big.

Interesting dialogue between you and Fadingpain.  I certainly agree that the writing is pedestrian and much of the casting indifferent.  I don't see how anyone would dismiss Alex Guinness as an actor and while Han Solo is a conventional character, Harrison Ford inhabits that character in an especially effective way.  In my view, Star Wars taps into a mythic consciousness, so it's not a real negative to note deriviative sources.  The original trilogy rises above the obvious limitations.

Edited December 16, 2017 by Dr. Who

[GoPre]

The Last Jedi ruined the latest Star Wars trilogy. Force Awakens was a reboot of the franchise, but at least it raised questions people enjoyed theorizing about. What does the Last Jedi do? Practically throws everything out the window w/ next to no thought. I'm about to the point of thinking only Episodes 1 - 6 were made. Gotta say good luck to JJ Abrams when he attempts to right the ship in Episode 9. He's going to need it.

[Rico]

51 minutes ago, GoPre said:

The Last Jedi ruined the latest Star Wars trilogy. Force Awakens was a reboot of the franchise, but at least it raised questions people enjoyed theorizing about. What does the Last Jedi do? Practically throws everything out the window w/ next to no thought. I'm about to the point of thinking only Episodes 1 - 6 were made. Gotta say good luck to JJ Abrams when he attempts to right the ship in Episode 9. He's going to need it.

I only consider Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi to be canon.... and that belief has only been reinforced in the years since Phantom Menace opening night. As such, I approach the prequels and reboots as pure popcorn movies & nothing else.

[SinceThe70s]

On 12/15/2017 at 10:54 AM, Joe Miner said:

I wasn't the biggest fan of the 1st half of the movie.  Pretty sloppy storylines IMO.

 

But the second half took off.  Fantastic second half. I certainly left excited for episode 9.

 

 

Saw it today and agree about the first half. I didn't care for the Laura Dern character. Was glad when she took one for the team.

 

On 12/15/2017 at 11:51 AM, Mark Vader said:

Great job by Rian Johnson, and I really liked Benicio Del Toro's character in this movie. Looking forward to Episode IX.

 

Did he definitively survive or get killed off? I didn't catch either and was expecting him to reappear late in the movie. 

 

[Mark Vader]

37 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Did he definitively survive or get killed off? I didn't catch either and was expecting him to reappear late in the movie. 

 

I'm sure he survived. He got what he came for and left with his earnings.

[boyst]

i hvae seen 5 or 6 of these

 

i don't get the hype.  i really don't.  i don't see what is so super amazing about something like this compared to the marvel movies, for example.

 

the last one to came out i went to see in the theatres, nothing to write home about.  the original 3 that came out in the 80's were pretty neat but i didn't think they were that cool.  i saw the first 3 of the trilogy and was bored to death.

[LeGOATski]

I'm feeling the same disappointment as others. This story was not told well enough. Some simple tweaks/additions/subtractions would've made it a much better movie.

 

The movie looked/sounded great and I was entertained, but it didn't intrigue me the way all the other Star Wars movies have. 

 

I'm thinking Abrams will tie it all together nicely in Episode 9. It shouldn't be too hard and there are opportunities for a big reveal.

6 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

I'm sure he survived. He got what he came for and left with his earnings.

I'd love to know more of his story. He's a great mercenary/lone wolf character like Boba Fett.

[thebandit27]

I gave it a 4 out of 5

 

Solid movie 

 

Speaking in generalities for anyone that hasn't seen it: I felt that the respective demises of certain characters were underwhelming, and I was really looking for more depth and backstory with characters like Kylo (and the other knights of Ren), Snoke, and Phasma.

 

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

I gave it a 4 out of 5

 

Solid movie 

 

Speaking in generalities for anyone that hasn't seen it: I felt that the respective demises of certain characters were underwhelming, and I was really looking for more depth and backstory with characters like Kylo (and the other knights of Ren), Snoke, and Phasma.

 

That would have been great.

 

That's how a lot of people felt about Darth Maul. They have these impressionable and memorable villains, but do little with them character wise.

[Gavin in Va Beach]

Last Jedi was god awful. Plot holes abound and they pissed all over Luke Skywalker, making him nearly detestable. Constantly insulted the discerning fans intelligence. I'm sure I'll watch it again when the kids ask for it for family movie night, but I don't really care to, nor do I really care where they go from here.

 

That said, I'm still looking forward to seeing the Han Solo movie. If they screw that up I may be done with Star Disney Wars.