The Wiz Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The guy that caught him from behind was within 25 yards. I think he meant the one where he scored a TD and didn't get tackled from behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 @SalSports Rex on Sammy's comments: "This just in, he's like every other wideout. Hogan said the same darn thing." Hogan's such a diva! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I would be more upset if he didn't want the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hogan! Can't trust those lax players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hogan! Can't trust those lax players. Just wait, he'll be asking for more pass attempts soon after last week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 @AroundTheNFL Mario Williams on Sammy Watkins' lack of targets: 'Give the man the ball' http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000558407/article/mario-williams-on-sammy-watkins-give-the-man-the-ball hell yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Not a good look at all perception-wise, but he's not wrong. He's the best player on the field and needs the ball.[/quote Best player on the field needs to be on the darn field. He can just shut up until he shows he can last more than three games w/o getting hurt. Maybe he should get Andre Reed to train him cause whoever is doing it now isn't getting very good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hogan's such a diva! I'm revoking Hogan's honorary lunch pail right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Only in Buffalo can a team's most talented player demanding that he be more involved so he can help the team win be seen as a negative... As for the "then get open!" crowd. Watch the All-22's. He's open. A LOT. you said it brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I do believe the offense needs to be opened up a bit more. I understand that we have had a lot of injuries to key players, but we do have an outstanding group of weapons on offense here. Let's go G-Ro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Not a good look at all perception-wise, but he's not wrong. He's the best player on the field and needs the ball.[/quote Best player on the field needs to be on the darn field. He can just shut up until he shows he can last more than three games w/o getting hurt. Maybe he should get Andre Reed to train him cause whoever is doing it now isn't getting very good results. Assuming he plays this week, he'll have played in 20 out of the 22 games the Bills have had since he arrived. That's the same number of games as Mike Evans (who has missed 2 games) two more than OBJ (4 games missed), and four more than both Kelvin Benjamin (5 games missed) and Brandon Cooks (6 games missed). Those are the other first round WRs in his draft class. Basically, players in the NFL get hurt. A lot. Look at his playing time in context. The idea that he doesn't play as much as other WRs is an absolute myth. Edited October 16, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Fine but GET YOURSELF ONTO THE FIELD. Can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket. This... I have no problem with him speaking up for himself. Should he have kept it in house? Probably, but you can't get more targets if you can't be on the field. That's my biggest issue. The timing of this isn't good when he's missed the last 2 games and may miss this week too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 This... I have no problem with him speaking up for himself. Should he have kept it in house? Probably, but you can't get more targets if you can't be on the field. That's my biggest issue. The timing of this isn't good when he's missed the last 2 games and may miss this week too. See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 See above. I agree with what you said. I'm speaking only to the last few weeks. If he's going to be back in this week and is wanting the ball now then good on him. But when you've sat out the last 2 games and may not play this week it's an odd time to come out to the media complaining of not getting the targets. I love the kid, and I know he's played while not being 100% where others may not have. Like I said, I'm only talking about the situation over the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I agree with what you said. I'm speaking only to the last few weeks. If he's going to be back in this week and is wanting the ball now then good on him. But when you've sat out the last 2 games and may not play this week it's an odd time to come out to the media complaining of not getting the targets. I love the kid, and I know he's played while not being 100% where others may not have. Like I said, I'm only talking about the situation over the last few weeks. The timing is indeed weird, but as I said above, he's both young and not a genius. I don't think it's a big issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I agree with what you said. I'm speaking only to the last few weeks. If he's going to be back in this week and is wanting the ball now then good on him. But when you've sat out the last 2 games and may not play this week it's an odd time to come out to the media complaining of not getting the targets. I love the kid, and I know he's played while not being 100% where others may not have. Like I said, I'm only talking about the situation over the last few weeks. Yeah the timing is weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The guy that caught him from behind was within 25 yards. Nobody caught him from behind on his TD, on which you accused him of celebrating early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Major eye roll for PFT! @ProFootballTalk To become a QB/leader, Tyrod Taylor needs to tell Sammy Watkins that if he ever pulls that crap again, he's never seeing the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Major eye roll for PFT! @ProFootballTalk To become a QB/leader, Tyrod Taylor needs to tell Sammy Watkins that if he ever pulls that crap again, he's never seeing the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Go home Florio, you are drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Nobody caught him from behind on his TD, on which you accused him of celebrating early. I believe he meant the TD pass that didn't actually turn into a TD because Sammy cele'd early. It was the same game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQwkvf8xdqE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 @GeorgeTWCNews #Bills Manuel on Watkins: He's a great player and wants to help us win. Don't think he meant anything negative by it. I like to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 As others have said, it's the timing. You haven't played in a few weeks and you involved your agent? That screams immature. In his one big game in the NFL he got caught from behind celebrating too early. Later in that same game he celebrated again too early although he didn't get caught. Sammy needs to learn that he is a "professional " football player and keep things in house. I believe he meant the TD pass that didn't actually turn into a TD because Sammy cele'd early. It was the same game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQwkvf8xdqE See above...he did not celebrate too early on his TD. He slowed down because nobody was within 25 yards of him. The response to that was that "the guy that caught him was within 25 yards". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Rex says Hogan also demands to be targeted, but Hogan actually does catch the ball when he is. What has Sam actually accomplished compared with other first round WRs? I'm waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 See above...he did not celebrate too early on his TD. He slowed down because nobody was within 25 yards of him. The response to that was that "the guy that caught him was within 25 yards". Oh, okay. So he's conflating the two plays. I knew someone was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Rex says Hogan also demands to be targeted, but Hogan actually does catch the ball when he is. What has Sam actually accomplished compared with other first round WRs? I'm waiting. He had the best rookie season for a WR in Bills history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Rex says Hogan also demands to be targeted, but Hogan actually does catch the ball when he is. What has Sam actually accomplished compared with other first round WRs? I'm waiting. Umm how about almost 1,000 yards receiving and 6 TD's in his rookie year? CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Rex says Hogan also demands to be targeted, but Hogan actually does catch the ball when he is. What has Sam actually accomplished compared with other first round WRs? I'm waiting. Wait no more- only the teams all time rookie WR G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Fmb 16 16 128 65 982 15.1 6 84 4.1 61.4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) lol ^^^ I thought that poster comparing Watkins to hogan was being sarcastic but guess not. Holy sh*t. This thread is epic. Edited October 16, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Rex says Hogan also demands to be targeted, but Hogan actually does catch the ball when he is. What has Sam actually accomplished compared with other first round WRs? I'm waiting. Several current NFL WRs' rookie years...you tell me who they are: WR----GP----REC----YDS----TD 1-----15------65-----1,067----7 2-----13------54------959-----8 3-----16------65------982-----6 4-----12------45------561-----6 5-----10------22------283-----2 Ready? Go! No cheating! 1 - AJ Green 2 - Julio Jones 3 - Sammy Watkins 4 - Dez Bryant 5 - Demaryius Thomas Edited October 16, 2015 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Rex says Hogan also demands to be targeted, but Hogan actually does catch the ball when he is. What has Sam actually accomplished compared with other first round WRs? I'm waiting. Are you seriously suggesting... never mind, it's not worth the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Are you seriously suggesting... never mind, it's not worth the time. Fear not, oh cold one. The smackdown has already been issued...he need only respond. I won't hold my breath... Edited October 16, 2015 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Several current NFL WRs rookie years...you tell me who they are: WR----GP----REC----YDS----TD 1-----15------65-----1,067----7 2-----13------54------959-----8 3-----16------65------982-----6 4-----12------45------561-----6 5-----10------22------283-----2 Ready? Go! No cheating! 1 - AJ Green 2 - Julio Jones 3 - Sammy Watkins 4 - Dez Bryant 5 - Demaryius Thomas Apologies there bandit, but they were not all equal prospects. 4 and 5 were not on the level of 2 and 1 and 3 at the draft. And if you take 4 and 5 out, 3s rookie year was the worst. Edited October 16, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Several current NFL WRs' rookie years...you tell me who they are: WR----GP----REC----YDS----TD 1-----15------65-----1,067----7 2-----13------54------959-----8 3-----16------65------982-----6 4-----12------45------561-----6 5-----10------22------283-----2 Ready? Go! No cheating! 1 - AJ Green 2 - Julio Jones 3 - Sammy Watkins 4 - Dez Bryant 5 - Demaryius Thomas Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Oh, okay. So he's conflating the two plays. I knew someone was. Correct. Apologies there bandit, but they were not all equal prospects. WR4 and WR5 were not on the level of WR2 and WR1 and WR3 at the draft. And if you take WR4 and WR5 out, Sammy's rookie year was the worst. You're ruining the game! Put the names in spoilers! I'd argue that it wasn't significantly worse by any stretch. Sammy had equal number of receptions to WR1, despite playing with a much lesser QB, and had only 85 fewer receiving yards. EDIT: I see that you've edited your post, so it appears we don't differ much in our evaluations Also, WR4 was an equal prospect to Sammy; he fell due to attitude issues, not ability issues. Edited October 16, 2015 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Apologies there bandit, but they were not all equal prospects. Dez and Demariyus were not on the level of Julio and AJ and Sammy at the draft. And if you take Dez and Demariyus out, Sammy's rookie year was the worst. Dez Bryant absolutely was - he was a total blue chipper. That was never in debate. But he was also a resident of crazy town -- hence the drop to the latter half of the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Why can't Sammy just be content entering the HOF as the greatest decoy ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Why can't Sammy just be content entering the HOF as the greatest decoy ever? I'd imagine if they were 5-0, he'd be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 @GeorgeTWCNews #Bills Manuel on Watkins: He's a great player and wants to help us win. Don't think he meant anything negative by it. I like to hear that. I'm sure he did. The real question is whether TT liked hearing it since he's the QB not throwing him the ball when he's "always open." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Correct. You're ruining the game! Put the names in spoilers! I'd argue that it wasn't significantly worse by any stretch. Sammy had equal number of receptions to WR1, despite playing with a much lesser QB, and had only 85 fewer receiving yards. EDIT: I see that you've edited your post, so it appears we don't differ much in our evaluations Also, WR4 was an equal prospect to Sammy; he fell due to attitude issues, not ability issues. Yes, but 1 and 2 played less games than Sammy and had better numbers. And fair on 4, but 5 wasn't close to the rest, IMO. Was a rookie QB for WR1 really better than KO and EeeeeeeeeJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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