FireChan Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 That is not the criterion any GM or person responsible for the roster uses to determine who stays and who goes. Gotta keep those developmental RB's on the roster for the future. That's what good teams do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 who snitched on whaley ? trouble brewing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Tim Graham @ByTimGraham 27s27 seconds ago "Being in the loop" would prevent one of Bills' biggest sponsors from launching expensive Fred Jackson ad campaign today. It's embarrassing. I don't know who one of the Bills biggest sponsors is referring to, but I did hear a Fred Jackson commercial on WGR about an hour or two after the news broke yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I love Fred. One of my all time favorite Bills. Just a tremendous guy and player and ambassador. But I also have been saying for years, with good reason and people telling me stuff, that Fred is also, simultaneously, often pissed at the Bills organization. He thinks he has been screwed over a few different times. I said it yesterday before this came out. It doesn't lessen in any way what I think of him, and I believe he has been right. But he is not the guy a lot of people think he is. He gets mad and he gets bitter and it fuels him like it used to fuel Thurman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Thank you. I was thinking the same. Calling Fred unproductive is insane. Meh. I love Freddy. But to say he's not in decline and injured quite a bit over the past few seasons is glossing over the facts. Edited September 2, 2015 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 How much money can we now roll over with Fred gone? Serious question. Because I've seen this espoused, and I have no idea if we've saved much of anything.2.7 or thereabouts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Oh come on - we have to consider ad campaigns for sponsors before roster moves now? For X Amount of money, yeah, you might want to hint to someone that the fan favorite player might not be the best idea for a spokesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 That is not the criterion any GM or person responsible for the roster uses to determine who stays and who goes. It's playing ability combined with cost relative to the investment in other assets. Convince me how Bryce Brown deserves a spot on this roster over Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 2.7 or thereabouts? We can roll over his entire cap hit to 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 I don't know who one of the Bills biggest sponsors is referring to, but I did hear a Fred Jackson commercial on WGR about an hour or two after the news broke yesterday Believe its M&T bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Gotta keep those developmental RB's on the roster for the future. That's what good teams do. Good GMs think short term, mid term and long term all at the same time. Tough choices need to be made. No one makes the right one all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1m1 minute ago There weren't any signs/messages from #Bills to Jackson that they were cutting him all the way up to Monday AM. Turk sent to 22 in building. Turk Shoenert? Is he still with the Bills and why is he handing out pink slips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Went rouge? How he is the GM. Don't get me wrong, I wish Fred was still a Bill but this was a move the steelers would have made. You know, where Whaley learned everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 i only think it looks "bad" on the Twitter machine and PR engine because people adore Fred. Keep in mind that this is 'Fred' as filtered by Bucky Gleason with TG providing the color commentary. The only folks that benefit from this 'scoop' are Bucky, Timmeh and my bird, who will be reading this story in his cage soon enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 2.7 or thereabouts? who were they not signing because of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 We can roll over his entire cap hit to 2016?i believe so but I'm just going by posts on this here site lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Turk Shoenert? Is he still with the Bills and why is he handing out pink slips? I googled him to check. Alouettes. Good GMs think short term, mid term and long term all at the same time. Tough choices need to be made. No one makes the right one all the time. Good GM's don't stash 2 developmental RB's on their 53. I'd love to see some evidence to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 WGR is smiling .. Gives the local media something to obsess over until the real games start, which still feels like forever from now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Just because it does in your eyes doesn't mean it does in other peoples. It doesn't in my eyes. See.Good for you.Serious question, how long after Jim Kelly retired did you think he could still play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Last few seasons don't matter, this year is what matters. . And look at just who has contributed in the past few seasons of **** bills football. And who hasn't. the list is very, very short. McCoy, Williams for certain. Factoring in ST would put Dixon ahead of him too. And honestly, if Brown gets over the fumbling thing, I'd put him ahead to, but may not matter as Brown likely won't dress unless someone else gets hurt which would have been the same position for Freddy, not dressing for the game. But please convince me that Fred Jackson wasn't a top three RB on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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