Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/lesean-mccoy/ His contract has $1 million in dead money (guarantted cash), $10 million cap hit for Philly. The Bills will have to renegotiate with Drew Rosenhaus. It will not come cheap. Nope. But it won't be as big of a cap hit as some are fearing (or as it currently is). This should also prove to you that Shady can't hold out. You don't sit with only 1 million left on your deal -- not when you're approaching 30 and are one of the top backs in the game. He'll sign. He'll get paid. It won't wreck the Bills' cap. Everyone wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 BUT... I... MUST... PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (even when we're talking about the best RB in football who magically came to our team for a bag of magic beans) #BillsLife Alonso is actually of Cuban and Colombian descent, not Mexican, but your racism is noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Alonso is actually of Cuban and Colombian descent, not Mexican, but your racism is noted. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Alonso is actually of Cuban and Colombian descent, not Mexican, but your racism is noted. You may not know this, but well before God came around, Cuba and Colombia were bent around and attached at the land mass, got together, and !@#$ed, and that is where Mexico came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Pie charts are fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Pie charts are fun I'll need to see the chart for how much positive feedback he receives from his teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsswansonjr Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 You may not know this, but well before God came around, Cuba and Colombia were bent around and attached at the land mass, got together, and !@#$ed, and that is where Mexico came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'll need to see the chart for how much positive feedback he receives from his teammates. Different teams so the pie chart is apples and oranges (though very pretty), But who gives a **** about locker room nonsense. Show me the yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 WHOA!!! WTF?? Philly is a great city? I didn't want to love it but it is a fabulous city. As is Buffalo. Plus Philly is a craphole of a city. Pointing fingers at Buffalo is the last thing they should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Different teams so the pie chart is apples and oranges (though very pretty), But who gives a **** about locker room nonsense. Show me the yards. Kind of my point. We had a great defense without Kiko last year and a crappy offense. We added to the offense and basically stayed the same on defense (assuming Spikes and Hughes are in the plans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsxfirefighter Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I understand a vast majority of people are upset with this trade from both organizations...but we all have forgotten one key aspect in this trade.. "Buffalo can not trade Kiko, Only Kiko can trade Kiko!!" #LegendOfKiko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So has there been any update on this? I feel like there's been a whole lot of nothing about this since the rumors were announced. Neither team has officially announced anything. But media is talking like it's a sure thing. Are there actual contract negotiations happening? Is that what's holding up officially? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So has there been any update on this? I feel like there's been a whole lot of nothing about this since the rumors were announced. Neither team has officially announced anything. But media is talking like it's a sure thing. Are there actual contract negotiations happening? Is that what's holding up officially? Officially deals cannot be made until the new league year which is about six days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Officially deals cannot be made until the new league year which is about six days. Then why have the Bills announced the Cassel trade and not the McCoy trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Then why have the Bills announced the Cassel trade and not the McCoy trade? I bet it involves a physical and maybe a restructure and since they really can't even chat with McCoy yet they might have to wait Cassel is like who cares and they know he's not gonna be a problem Both trades will go through tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Then why have the Bills announced the Cassel trade and not the McCoy trade? not sure. There is not anyone who is saying it won't go through. Even Rosenhaus. I imagine the Bills are negotiating with Shady, as well as Kiko needing a thorough physical. That's what is likely holding it up. Both teams agreed to it. There is no question about that. The Bills called Spiller and told him that is what they're doing, etc. It all happened so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) not sure. There is not anyone who is saying it won't go through. Even Rosenhaus. I imagine the Bills are negotiating with Shady, as well as Kiko needing a thorough physical. That's what is likely holding it up. Both teams agreed to it. There is no question about that. The Bills called Spiller and told him that is what they're doing, etc. I'm not suggesting why it won't go through, seems most people are pretty sure it is going through.. just curious what's going on in addition to the Kiko - McCoy swap... whether it's contract, or are there picks involved, etc. Edited March 4, 2015 by Dorkington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorguy Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 why do you care what they pay him? I'd like some Oline guys that are NFL level talent, ya know, guys who can open holes big enough for you to run through with positive yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'm not suggesting why it won't go through, seems most people are pretty sure it is going through.. just curious what's going on in addition to the Kiko - McCoy swap... whether it's contract, or are there picks involved, etc. I understand. According to reports this all happened in 20 minutes or so. I'm pretty sure it's contract talk and the Eagles confirming that Kiko's knee is sound. That, to me, is the only thing that could derail it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'm not suggesting why it won't go through, seems most people are pretty sure it is going through.. just curious what's going on in addition to the Kiko - McCoy swap... whether it's contract, or are there picks involved, etc. No picks involved. Reportedly the Bills are working on the contract to lessen cap hit and increase his guaranteed $. Also, WGR said a well placed source with Bills said they do not have any worries about him reporting or otherwise. I understand. According to reports this all happened in 20 minutes or so. I'm pretty sure it's contract talk and the Eagles confirming that Kiko's knee is sound. That, to me, is the only thing that could derail it. Yes- Kiko will need to pass the physical. I'm sure Dr. Chip will put on his trainer hat to ensure it goes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'm not suggesting why it won't go through, seems most people are pretty sure it is going through.. just curious what's going on in addition to the Kiko - McCoy swap... whether it's contract, or are there picks involved, etc. Apparently the Buffalo Chamber of Commerce and Welcome Wagon are arranging a visit for McCoy so he can learn that Buffalo is (a) in the same time zone as Philadelphia and (b) the homes available for purchase come with gas heat. They will also be driving him directly across the state line so McCoy can see for himself that Pennsylvania and New York are connected and he has not been traded to a foreign country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsxfirefighter Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'm not suggesting why it won't go through, seems most people are pretty sure it is going through.. just curious what's going on in addition to the Kiko - McCoy swap... whether it's contract, or are there picks involved, etc. I read that this trade is pending Kiko passing a Philly physical. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Kiko ending the year on IR/PUP and he technically cant be traded until the new league year due to CBA or something. (Purely my speculation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Apparently the Buffalo Chamber of Commerce and Welcome Wagon are arranging a visit for McCoy so he can learn that Buffalo is (a) in the same time zone as Philadelphia and (b) the homes available for purchase come with gas heat. They will also be driving him directly across the state line so McCoy can see for himself that Pennsylvania and New York are connected and he has not been traded to a foreign country. That's pretty good. He chose to go to Pitt, which is 3 1/2 hours away from his hometown of Harrisburg. I get playing HS, College and NFL in the same state and it's a cool story, but Buffalo is only 5 1/2 hours away from his hometown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Apparently the Buffalo Chamber of Commerce and Welcome Wagon are arranging a visit for McCoy so he can learn that Buffalo is (a) in the same time zone as Philadelphia and (b) the homes available for purchase come with gas heat. They will also be driving him directly across the state line so McCoy can see for himself that Pennsylvania and New York are connected and he has not been traded to a foreign country. Nice. As if Philly isn't cold and doesn't get snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Player for player trades can't be announced until Tuesday Player for picks can be announced now Makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Nice. As if Philly isn't cold and doesn't get snow. The one that gets me is "used to playing for the playoffs". Over the last 4 years the Eagles have missed the playoffs 3 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 For those who say Shady's in decline, here's SI's take on his reduced production: In 2013 he led the NFL in carries (314) and rushing yards (1,607), following that up with a 312-carry, 1,319-yard season in 2014 despite a series of injuries that left Philadelphia's offensive line in shambles. http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/03/03/eagles-trade-lesean-mccoy-bills-kiko-alonso-chip-kelly-rex-ryan Also, Philly had QB issues which allowed defenses to focus more on McCoy in 2014. He had 1,100+ yards in his last 12 games (96 yards per game, 4.6 per carry). If he can simply match that in Buffalo, we come out way ahead IMO.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The one that gets me is "used to playing for the playoffs". Over the last 4 years the Eagles have missed the playoffs 3 of them. But that one playoff loss was awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The one that gets me is "used to playing for the playoffs". Over the last 4 years the Eagles have missed the playoffs 3 of them. Yeah I saw that too. I guess they mean in contention? But we were in contention for the playoffs last year. I guess we just aren't relevant enough for him to notice that. We just need to break this drought and get rid of the stigma of being playoff-less team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 No picks involved. Reportedly the Bills are working on the contract to lessen cap hit and increase his guaranteed $. Also, WGR said a well placed source with Bills said they do not have any worries about him reporting or otherwise. Yes- Kiko will need to pass the physical. I'm sure Dr. Chip will put on his trainer hat to ensure it goes well. Answers my questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Player for player trades can't be announced until Tuesday Player for picks can be announced now Makes sense Pretty sure why it hasn't been announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Player for player trades can't be announced until Tuesday Player for picks can be announced now Makes sense If true, this I did not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 ACL 2nd time? Good trade. Lets get Hughs now. Think EJ will start and run-run-run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 But that one playoff loss was awesome! the first two seasons were left out of that calculus. He has made the playoffs 3 times in 6 seasons - 50 percent of the time. The Eagles lost all three, but two of those losses (in 2010 and 2013) came down to the last play of the game. In his 6 years with the Eagles, they had one losing season and had double digit wins 4 times. So yes, he's used to playing in games that matter in late December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In consecutive years we trade our most productive WR and our best LBer for two undersized speed running backs from the Eagles. Is Whaley secretly working for the Eagles? please, for your own sake stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So you are completely disregarding Whaley's established track record of finding LBs, and instead projecting the failings of past GMs going as far back as Tom Donahoe onto him. Ok. Great argument you are making here... You can be pissed if you want. I'll trust that Whaley and Rex Ryan know how to identify LB talent. I'm going to give a shout out to the scouting department as well as Whaley for the LB finds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'm going to give a shout out to the scouting department as well as Whaley for the LB finds... Nice to have you back around CC. Next time drag that no good for nothing along with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 That's pretty good. He chose to go to Pitt, which is 3 1/2 hours away from his hometown of Harrisburg. I get playing HS, College and NFL in the same state and it's a cool story, but Buffalo is only 5 1/2 hours away from his hometown. Shorter drive from Harrisburg to B'lo than from Philly to Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Nice to have you back around CC. Next time drag that no good for nothing along with you. Thanks bud! Nice to be back.... Who do you want me to drag along with me? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Thanks bud! Nice to be back.... Who do you want me to drag along with me? Lol Preferably Jerry Hughe$... Can you work on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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