John from Riverside Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 He needs some work.....but he does look like a gamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It's so hard to evaluate him because of the system he played in. He's not as good as RG3 and we see how he has struggled the last couple of years. Baylor just has wide open Wrs all the time that you rarely see in the NFL. But for a 4th or so, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) It's so hard to evaluate him because of the system he played in. He's not as good as RG3 and we see how he has struggled the last couple of years. Baylor just has wide open Wrs all the time that you rarely see in the NFL. But for a 4th or so, why not? He isn't as athletic, but he has good accuracy and knows where to put the ball. Even though he plays in a one-read system i've seen him throw guys open frequently with his ball placement. He's my pick if we are taking a stab at one of these guys. I feel pretty good about him but I would still have hesitations about using the 2nd on him. not sure he last until the third though. Edited February 21, 2015 by Zac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It's so hard to evaluate him because of the system he played in. He's not as good as RG3 and we see how he has struggled the last couple of years. Baylor just has wide open Wrs all the time that you rarely see in the NFL. But for a 4th or so, why not? Do we have a fourth? I agree we will take a QB but not with our second or third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Do we have a fourth? I agree we will take a QB but not with our second or third. I forget. We got one for Stevie but gave one up for Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It's so hard to evaluate him because of the system he played in. He's not as good as RG3 and we see how he has struggled the last couple of years. Baylor just has wide open Wrs all the time that you rarely see in the NFL. But for a 4th or so, why not? Just to clarify, Griffin has struggled primarily because he's been rushed back from injuries, Mike Shanahan played him when he was basically crippled, and everyone is attempting to make him change his game. Plus, the DC press has picked on him incessantly for everything he does and says and Gruden publicly threw him under the bus this past season. He may continue to struggle until he's out of the DC environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I think Petty is the best option available after the top two. I'm also certain we don't have a 4th this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Just to clarify, Griffin has struggled primarily because he's been rushed back from injuries, Mike Shanahan played him when he was basically crippled, and everyone is attempting to make him change his game. Plus, the DC press has picked on him incessantly for everything he does and says and Gruden publicly threw him under the bus this past season. He may continue to struggle until he's out of the DC environment. I agree with that. Washington is a tire fire. It's so hard to evaluate these college system Qbs. Part of the many reasons I hated Manziel last year. If multiple Wbs put up monster numbers Inthe same system, it might be more about the same system than the QB's talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Do we have a fourth? I agree we will take a QB but not with our second or third. I forget. We got one for Stevie but gave one up for Brown. Nope. No fourth rounder. Cleveland trade took our original one and the 4th we received in the SJ13 trade, we sent to Philly for Bryce Brown. We do have two fifth rounders though, so I'm sure a trade into the fourth isn't completely implausible. A QB in this draft would be nice but I would rather we use our second and third rounders on any of the following first: Running Back, Guard, Tight End and a pass rusher (providing Hughes isn't retained). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp2Warlick Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Around The NFL @AroundTheNFL 10m10 minutes ago Mike Mayock loves Bryce Petty's natural ability, but sees him as a multi-year project. #fearofspread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Around The NFL @AroundTheNFL 10m10 minutes ago Mike Mayock loves Bryce Petty's natural ability, but sees him as a multi-year project. #fearofspread That's my concern... EJ hasn't been given any time to sit but without a first rounder we should be willing to let Petty do so if he's our selection in either the second or third round? No thanks. We aren't far away from the Playoffs and I'd rather we acquire players in those two rounds that can step in and produce for this team at some point this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 He wouldn't be a bad pick in the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 He has concussion issues, so that is a bit of a red flag. I wouldn't spend a second or a third on him. Trade up and take him in the fourth? Maybe worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I would not mind seeing the Bills take Petty in the draft. I would prefer they get someone who could make a more immediate impact in Round 2, but I found Whaley's comments at the combine interesting. He said (paraphrasing) that he would prefer to fill their holes in free agency so they are in position to take BPA in the draft. We will see what happens in FA, but if that logic holds, I would not be surprised to see them take Petty in Round 2, assuming he is still there. They need a QB to develop, while they need the best FA they can find to compete with EJ/back him up. Tuel ain't it in either case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Decent feet, strong arm. Natural thrower. Makes questionable decisions. Could see us taking him with or first pick if they like what they see. Would love to grab him in rd 5, but I doubt he lasts that long. Ya never know though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tintonfallsbillsfan Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Petty has a legit arm, is mobile and accurate. that puts him one up on E.j. Can he learn to read defense and work under center ? Nobody can answer that right now. Would I spend a 2nd rounder on him , all things considered , YES I have to think they sign Hughes and buy a tight end and a guard so lets start taking some shots at qb. Mayock has him as his third qb which is a good indicator he wouldn't make it past the early third and I think that would be pushing. Edited February 21, 2015 by Tintonfallsbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 He's a late round prospect to me. He has a decent arm but he's a long term project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Wiki quote "As a junior in 2013 he took over as the starting quarterback.[4][5] He finished the year with 4,200 passing yards, 32 touchdowns and only three interceptions. He also rushed for 14 touchdowns. As a senior in 2014, he passed for 3,855 yards and 29 touchdowns along six rushing touchdowns." His 2013 highlights are killer. Dude throws on-the-money bombs. And he plows like a fullback. No way this kid lasts till the 5th round of the draft. Highlight videos are suspect, (and im a ideot) but my first impression of Bryce Petty is very favorable. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=WwvpVOeKIcefgwSivYLoDw&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DB2-DR-NfhUw&ved=0CCkQtwIwBA&usg=AFQjCNE1aeCzXeXkIIO-VnhdV0UbwWZbQA On further review... He had hella protection on everyone of his 2013 TD passes. He does run like train though. Edited February 21, 2015 by THE KIKO MONSTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I believe Petty should be considered in the second round. Roman could put in an offense to take advantage of his skill set, which includes real accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Can someone please provide the link to the TBD customer feedback dept? ...suggestions thread or whatever...(im a ideot)...and buzzed...and i cant find it on my phone. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 We have the first pick in the 5th, which is basically the last pick in the 4th I guess. But I think Bryce is our pick in the 3rd round if he's still on the board for our pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Do we have a fourth? I agree we will take a QB but not with our second or third. Even if he is BPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I think Petty is the best option available after the top two. I'm also certain we don't have a 4th this draft. i have liked this guy from the start, i think you cant wait , may have to take him earlier if they want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasjuggler Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 If we can't get a decent veteran free agent then the Bills got to roll the dice every draft till we get a QB. All other positions you can get in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 It's so hard to evaluate him because of the system he played in. He's not as good as RG3 and we see how he has struggled the last couple of years. Baylor just has wide open Wrs all the time that you rarely see in the NFL. But for a 4th or so, why not? This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 The Bills will draft a QB project in the 5th or later. Their primary job will be to knock Tuel off the roster. They will bring in a veteran QB to compete with EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Petty has very similar stats to rg3 and rg3 has terrance williams and kendall wright to throw to...two pretty good starters on NFL teams. Who did Petty have to throw to? The guy is looking like a decent pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 He has concussion issues, so that is a bit of a red flag. I wouldn't spend a second or a third on him. Trade up and take him in the fourth? Maybe worth a shot. Concussion issues ? NOT TRUE. He had a very mild concussion in K State game, had no symptoms that week and played following Saturday. He will be taken in 2nd round, with 3rd round grade, QB's are always over valued, so, if Bills have interest, they'll need to use their 2nd. I watched every Baylor game the past 2 years and Petty is a gamer, plays hurt, natural leader, great arm strength, good accuracy, mobile. His biggest issues are huge question marks on his ability to play in pro style offense which requires multiple reads, playing under center etc. since he hasn't done that in college system AND he is ultra competitive and can get down on himself, so, I'm concerned he'll have the mental toughness to fail. I think best situation for him is exactly what Mayock said, a team that will let him sit and learn and develop over a 2 year period and won't rush him to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Okay, I was going off of material I read on another board. Maybe someone is planting info hoping he will drop? Not sure OBD will take a project qb after EJ. If we take him, I will instantly become a fan. I'm not a hater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Okay, I was going off of material I read on another board. Maybe someone is planting info hoping he will drop? Not sure OBD will take a project qb after EJ. If we take him, I will instantly become a fan. I'm not a hater. Besides like 10 guys, aren't most Qbs projects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Besides like 10 guys, aren't most Qbs projects? Yes, most are. I'm not saying a qb that needs development shouldn't be taken, I was wondering if OBD will take one (other than a late round flier which would not be controversial) given the impatience that EJ has been shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sounds a lot like E.J. to me: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664902/bryce-petty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Yes, most are. I'm not saying a qb that needs development shouldn't be taken, I was wondering if OBD will take one (other than a late round flier which would not be controversial) given the impatience that EJ has been shown. I agree with you. But I think the impatience was more of Marrone thing. Rex has had issues with his offense but he has been more than patient with his Qbs. Hopefully EJ or someone else will benefit from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I prefer bigger QBs but they say Bryce is one of the smartest QBs in this draft. In Whaley I trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think that there's almost no chance that Petty lasts past the top 60, so if Buffalo wants him they better pull the trigger at 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I agree with you. But I think the impatience was more of Marrone thing. Rex has had issues with his offense but he has been more than patient with his Qbs. Hopefully EJ or someone else will benefit from that. He wanted a full competition for Geno last season. He wanted to bench Geno last season. When has he been patient? By not benching the rookie QB who took his team to the postseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) To be clear.... I wasnt really saying take him in the 2nd...I like RB Ajay in the 2nd....that RB does it ALL....durable....workhorse......can catch too I am thinking of Petty as more of a 3rd round guy (or a target for a trade up) ..ALSO it would be a good thing to sit him for a year....bring in a vet to compete with EJ...... Petty is smart....is a thrower of the ball.....and is pretty mobile despite his 40 time at the combine Edited February 22, 2015 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think that there's almost no chance that Petty lasts past the top 60, so if Buffalo wants him they better pull the trigger at 50. Whaley should be fired on the spot if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Whaley should be fired on the spot if that happens. Whom would you pick at 50? and i wonder if the Bills are going to try to move picks around again. I hate losing the first pick but i dont care much for losing the fourth either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Whom would you pick at 50? and i wonder if the Bills are going to try to move picks around again. I hate losing the first pick but i dont care much for losing the fourth either AJ Cann, Jay Ajayi, Laken Tomlinson or Xavier Cooper just to name a few. Petty is a late rounder or priority FA to me. He's a long term project that will likely go over drafted. Edited February 22, 2015 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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