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On 3/6/2019 at 8:08 AM, Gary M said:

 

I also want an M1A carbine, have for years. need to make that a priority. Also lack an over under in 12 ga.  Without going into detail, I have everything else covered.

As a kid I fell in love with the carbine watching WW2 movies.  Then I drooled over it in the Sears catalog.  I'd still like to have one even though I won't have to defend my howitzer, guard my AAA gun, or take out a panzershrek.  I've had an old Marlin .22 carbine since I was like 15, and it's fun to shoot 8 rounds in under 2 seconds.  I imagine that's all the M1A would be useful for,  Maybe it's better to have that under your bed rather than a pistol in the nightstand, except you'd have to fix some spots in the drywall behind the intruder.  

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1 minute ago, daz28 said:

As a kid I fell in love with the carbine watching WW2 movies.  Then I drooled over it in the Sears catalog.  I'd still like to have one even though I won't have to defend my howitzer, guard my AAA gun, or take out a panzershrek.  I've had an old Marlin .22 carbine since I was like 15, and it's fun to shoot 8 rounds in under 2 seconds.  I imagine that's all the M1A would be useful for,  Maybe it's better to have that under your bed rather than a pistol in the nightstand, except you'd have to fix some spots in the drywall behind the intruder.  

 

The best home defense weapon is a shotgun. CQB is what a shotty does best. Right now I’m a ***** for Kel Tec’s KSG, but there are a lot of affordable AR style auto-loaders out there. The most important thing to consider is corners. So, if you have to “cut the pie” which means to essentially turn a corner in a stead and crescent moon shape way. Like back out and then take the corner slowly, muzzle up, and “cut the pie.” If you have to do a lot of that then you want to consider a KSG or a Shockwave. I have corners so that’s why I go small. Easier to turn corners with. But, if your door, the “fatal funnel,”opens into a wide open area, then you want an auto loader which will be a bit longer, but that’s desirable in that scenario. Very advantageous. It’s all depending upon your terrain. 

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6 hours ago, The_Dude said:

 

What about the car company that manufactured the box truck that French Haj used to drive over Frenchies on Bastile Day a few years ago — should the car manufacturer be sued? 

 

Skimming over it,  its a pretty narrow ruling  that allows the lawsuit to proceed only on the grounds that Remington may have triggered an exception in the PLCAA related to state laws regulating marketing practices.    

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3 minutes ago, Brandon said:

 

Skimming over it,  its a pretty narrow ruling  that allows the lawsuit to proceed only on the grounds that Remington may have triggered an exception in the PLCAA related to state laws regulating marketing practices.    

 

That is so ridiculous that it has to be true. 

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12 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

The best home defense weapon is a shotgun. CQB is what a shotty does best. Right now I’m a ***** for Kel Tec’s KSG, but there are a lot of affordable AR style auto-loaders out there. The most important thing to consider is corners. So, if you have to “cut the pie” which means to essentially turn a corner in a stead and crescent moon shape way. Like back out and then take the corner slowly, muzzle up, and “cut the pie.” If you have to do a lot of that then you want to consider a KSG or a Shockwave. I have corners so that’s why I go small. Easier to turn corners with. But, if your door, the “fatal funnel,”opens into a wide open area, then you want an auto loader which will be a bit longer, but that’s desirable in that scenario. Very advantageous. It’s all depending upon your terrain. 

 I looked at that KSG, and it looks like the ultimate home defense weapon.  Under 7 lbs, lol.  I imagine like only 2% of intruders are armed, and meaning to harm me, so I prob wouldn't shoot him anyways.  If he just a scumbag thief I prob let him run, or whoop dat ass.  Thing is if you get out the gun, and then decide to ***** him up, he can end up with the gun.  Maybe it's best to just let the wife follow you with a gun.

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31 minutes ago, daz28 said:

 I looked at that KSG, and it looks like the ultimate home defense weapon.  Under 7 lbs, lol.  I imagine like only 2% of intruders are armed, and meaning to harm me, so I prob wouldn't shoot him anyways.  If he just a scumbag thief I prob let him run, or whoop dat ass.  Thing is if you get out the gun, and then decide to ***** him up, he can end up with the gun.  Maybe it's best to just let the wife follow you with a gun.

 

Sir....if you have a gun and lose the fight.....no sir you cannot do that. It must not be done. 

 

I have both a KSG and an AR style auto loader. 

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3 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Sir....if you have a gun and lose the fight.....no sir you cannot do that. It must not be done. 

 

I have both a KSG and an AR style auto loader. 

Seeing you quoting "Wild Bill" made me wonder how many more poker games he'd have won if he had a KSG

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8 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Im quoting Wild Bill? I did not know that. 

i may or may not have mistaken the quote.  Due to him dealing a K-4-10-k-10 or similar hand too many times, we will never know.  IOW, he prob did say that. Him or Bass Reeves or some other gunslinger.  Good advice.

 

You should have wrote some lines for Doc Holliday for 'Tombstome'.  The line you just made fits him pretty well.  Val Kilmer

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2 hours ago, Gary M said:

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Should the airplane manufacturer be sued?

 

Along with the architect and construction companies for the towers. If they didn't build the towers so tall and square...

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On 7/17/2014 at 11:49 AM, Security said:

Seems that with more people arming themselves in Detroit, there is less crime. Can't just let the bad guys have guns. Need mandatory minimums on using guns that are not legal in crimes of at least 25 years.

 

http://www.caintv.com/detroit-police-chief-says-priv

 

Little bit of both here:

 

From the Detroit News:

 

"Detroit has experienced 37 percent fewer robberies in 2014 than during the same period last year, 22 percent fewer break-ins of businesses and homes, and 30 percent fewer carjackings.

 

...Criminals are getting the message that good Detroiters are armed and will use that weapon. I don’t want to take away from the good work our investigators are doing, but I think part of the drop in crime, and robberies in particular, is because criminals are thinking twice that citizens could be armed.

 

I can’t say what specific percentage is caused by this, but there’s no question in my mind it has had an effect.”

 

Detroit's crime rate is still disastrously high, but it is dropping. Of course, don't waste your breath telling any of this to the anti-2nd Amendment nutjobs. They're still running around, yapping about how gun control works.

 

“Our position is, more guns equals more crime,” Horwitz said “These are complicated issues, but the empirical evidence shows the states with the lowest gun ownership and the tightest restrictions have the fewest instances of gun violence."

 

 

Democrats clearly favor criminals.

After all, everyone is an angel.

....Except those white devils.

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5 hours ago, LABillzFan said:

#believeallwomencanprotectthemselves

 

 

 

No, she's still a victim.  Seriously...could have been worse, obviously, but she killed that *****.  That's seriously traumatic, and I'm genuinely sympathetic to what she must be going through.

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35 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

No, she's still a victim.  Seriously...could have been worse, obviously, but she killed that *****.  That's seriously traumatic, and I'm genuinely sympathetic to what she must be going through.

 

If I'm to believe youtube, as an off-duty Brazilian cop she must do this every day.

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23 hours ago, LABillzFan said:

Company does something that won't affect gun violence, loses $150M in sales, everyone's happy.

 

 

 

I believe in brining silliness into serious conversations. I feel the world needs more silliness. Anyway when my nephew was a young kid he was looking for some sporting goods online. He typed in *****.com. My sister, his mom, said he was very confused at what came up.....so to speak. 

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I read that Singapore has a very low crime rate. If you use a gun while committing a crime in Singapore, the punishment is automatic death penalty. That’s very interesting. When people talk about gun laws, perhaps the punishment for use needs to be stronger. Then again , , merely possessing a gun in Singapore gets you automatic caning. 

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1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I believe in brining silliness into serious conversations. I feel the world needs more silliness. Anyway when my nephew was a young kid he was looking for some sporting goods online. He typed in *****.com. My sister, his mom, said he was very confused at what came up.....so to speak. 

 

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The chairman of the Senate Banking Committee warned the banking industry on Thursday that it should not attempt to restrict legal gun sales by denying financial services to members of the gun industry.
 

Sen. Mike Crapo (R., Idaho) sent a letter to eight of the country's biggest banks detailing his concerns with the way some of them had begun rejecting business from certain gun companies. In the last year, several of them have attempted to restrict what kinds of guns can be sold to the public and who they can be sold to by applying financial pressure.
 

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WASHINGTON — The National Rifle Association, the nation’s largest gun lobby, has settled on its next target on Capitol Hill: blocking Congress from reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act, a 1994 law that assists victims of domestic and sexual violence.

The House is set to vote on the legislation this week; the law expired in February. But the bill includes a new provision — aimed at curbing sexual violence by expanding law enforcement’s ability to strip domestic abusers of their guns — that the N.R.A. does not like. The measure closes the so-called boyfriend loophole by barring those convicted of abusing, assaulting or stalking a dating partner or those subject to a court restraining order from buying or owning firearms.

Under current federal law, those convicted of domestic abuse can lose their guns if they are — or were formerly — married to their victim, live with their victim, have a child with their victim or are a parent or guardian of their victim. The proposed provision would extend those who can be convicted of domestic abuse to include stalkers and current or former boyfriends or dating partners.

Jennifer Baker, a spokeswoman for the N.R.A., said that for “many of those ‘offenses’ — and I’m using air quotes here — the behavior that would qualify as a stalking offense is often not violent or threatening; it involves no personal contact whatsoever.” She argues that the new provision is “too broad and ripe for abuse.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/us/politics/nra-domestic-violence-congress.html?action=click&amp;module=Top Stories&amp;pgtype=Homepage

 

wife beaters are some of the NRAs best members I guess

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On 4/1/2019 at 7:23 AM, Buffalo_Gal said:

The chairman of the Senate Banking Committee warned the banking industry on Thursday that it should not attempt to restrict legal gun sales by denying financial services to members of the gun industry.
 

Sen. Mike Crapo (R., Idaho) sent a letter to eight of the country's biggest banks detailing his concerns with the way some of them had begun rejecting business from certain gun companies. In the last year, several of them have attempted to restrict what kinds of guns can be sold to the public and who they can be sold to by applying financial pressure.
 

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I am not allowed to do financial planning (fee based fiduciary portfolios which are regulated by SEC not FINRA) to those in the marijuana industry.  Seriously??

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“The House passed legislation on Thursday reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) over objections from the National Rifle Association and Republicans who say it will restrict gun rights by preventing people convicted of stalking or abusing dating partners from buying a gun.” Some 33 Republicans voted with Democrats.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/437348-house-votes-to-reauthorize-violence-against-women-act-close-the-boyfriend

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1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I originally went for the laughing emoji but went for the crying emoji because this is one one of the stupidest thing ever.  

 

I believe it was in this very thread when I replied to a picture of one of those bins with "Hey, look, free knives!"

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12 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

I believe it was in this very thread when I replied to a picture of one of those bins with "Hey, look, free knives!"

 

First thing I thought when you said that was the Seinfeld episode where George does the Twix candy lineup.

 

"Hey Willie, check it out!! Free candy!!"

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49 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

I believe it was in this very thread when I replied to a picture of one of those bins with "Hey, look, free knives!"

 

Yep.  Almost exactly a year ago.

 

It's not that I'm a genius (although I am).  It's that progressives are so simple-mindedly stupid that it's easy to predict the results of their policies.

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11 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

It's not that I'm a genius (although I am).  It's that progressives are so simple-mindedly stupid that it's easy to predict the results of their policies.

 

used to be a person self-named a lefty at least had read a book on marxism or socialism and had a 3 digit IQ

 

not for the last 5 or so years though

 

 

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2 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

I believe it was in this very thread when I replied to a picture of one of those bins with "Hey, look, free knives!"

 

Yes but because England has strict gun laws it was only a box of knives and not a box of guns. Or something like that. 

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