mannc Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Anyone else unhappy that Whaley did not see fit to take a late round flyer on a QB? There were lots available, including many that were expected to go sooner, such as Mettenberger, Murray, McCarron, and Boyd. I think this is a decision we will regret. Once again, OBD neglecting the most important position in sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Anyone else unhappy that Whaley did not see fit to take a late round flyer on a QB? There were lots available, including many that were expected to go sooner, such as Mettenberger, Murray, McCarron, and Boyd. I think this is a decision we will regret. Once again, OBD neglecting the most important position in sports. Â No surprise, OBD will sink or swim with EJ as we've known for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Â Â No surprise, OBD will sink or swim with EJ as we've known for quite some time. That was not the point. Once again, it appears that the team will enter the season with an injury-prone starter (with little experience), no quality backup, and no viable developmental prospect on the roster. This is the same mentality that led to drafting TJ Graham instead of Russell Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I am surprised as I've been hearing they aren't happy with their QB backups. Thought for sure they'd take a flyer on Manuel's version of Frank Reich. Â GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Not really. They said OBD was 100% behind EJ and they've proved it by not drafting another QB. Â And on a personal level, I'm thrilled there won't be 100 idiotic 'why not give Boyd a start' threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 This is the first time I've heard people think EJ sucks and we should draft someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I would have liked Murray, Mettenberger or Boyd. Mad the Jets got Boyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Not really. While I thought there was an argument to be made for selecting one late as a contingency plan, it doesn't bother me that they didn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Not really. They said OBD was 100% behind EJ and they've proved it by not drafting another QB. Â And on a personal level, I'm thrilled there won't be 100 idiotic 'why not give Boyd a start' threads. Fair enough. I would have liked to see them hedge their bets and have a true prospect in the mix as a backup, especially if EJ gets hurt again for any extended period of time. I am not sure that Lewis, Tuel or Dixon is that. Â On that note, I think it's quite possible that Dixon kicks Tuel to the curb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Queue the 100 off season threads on why they didn't draft one of these QBs.. Â It was virtually guaranteed they were not going to if you have been following this team at all in the past few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) This is the first time I've heard people think EJ sucks and we should draft someone. Once again, the point is not to draft someone to compete with EJ (not that there would be anything wrong with that). The point is that--again--there is no viable backup or developmental QB on the roster. Edited May 10, 2014 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Anyone else unhappy that Whaley did not see fit to take a late round flyer on a QB? There were lots available, including many that were expected to go sooner, such as Mettenberger, Murray, McCarron, and Boyd. I think this is a decision we will regret. Once again, OBD neglecting the most important position in sports. Those were the exact 4 flyers that were available that I thought warranted a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Fair enough. I would have liked to see them hedge their bets and have a true prospect in the mix as a backup, especially if EJ gets hurt again for any extended period of time. I am not sure that Lewis, Tuel or Dixon is that. Â On that note, I think it's quite possible that Dixon kicks Tuel to the curb. Â In all honesty I wouldn't mind that either, but it's pretty hard to have a rookie QB and a 2d year QB and not have potential for a QB controversy, which I'm sure they wanted to avoid at all costs. You've got to give EJ this whole season, with no looking over his shoulder, to see what steps he takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I don't like their appearant policy that they don't want to bring in anyone who could threaten EJ for the starting job, whether through free agency or draft. Vick is an example. They're afraid the fans would be calling for him to start if EJ falters. If he can't win the job, then he shouldn't be starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Â It was virtually guaranteed they were not going to if you have been following this team at all in the past few months. So that means it was the right decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Not really. While I thought there was an argument to be made for selecting one late as a contingency plan, it doesn't bother me that they didn't do it. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Once again, the point is not to draft someone to compete with EJ (not that there would be anything wrong with that). The point is that--again--there is no viable backup or developmental QB on the roster. The problem is EJ isn't established firmly enough yet, so adding a rookie to the mix isn't beneficial to him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Â The problem is EJ isn't established firmly enough yet, so adding a rookie to the mix isn't beneficial to him at all. Maybe not, but it might have been beneficial to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) I don't like their appearant policy that they don't want to bring in anyone who could threaten EJ for the starting job, whether through free agency or draft. Vick is an example. They're afraid the fans would be calling for him to start if EJ falters. If he can't win the job, then he shouldn't be starting. With this crowd, that would start if they go 3 and out in the first possession of the Hall of Fame game. I don't blame them one bit for that strategy. Â Â Maybe not, but it might have been beneficial to the Bills. They invested a first round pick in EJ. What's good for him is good for the Bills. The guy needs more than 12 games before you declare he's fair game to losing the job. Edited May 10, 2014 by KD in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 So that means it was the right decision? Â Not right or wrong but not unexpected is my point. Â They have 2 backup QBs on the roster who started games for them last season. I could see why they didn't think it was a need. They are all in on EJ so let's see if that is the correct decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Â The problem is EJ isn't established firmly enough yet, so adding a rookie to the mix isn't beneficial to him at all. I didn't want any QB this year before the 6th round and we didn't have a sixth round pick. A late round rookie QB has less of a threat to EJ than Tuel is right now. I think Tuel stinks, so I want another developmental guy than him, so I wouldn't have minded a 6-7 round pick to be in the mix. Adding a rookie like that isn't beneficial to him at all, but it isn't a threat to him at all either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 I don't like their appearant policy that they don't want to bring in anyone who could threaten EJ for the starting job, whether through free agency or draft. Vick is an example. They're afraid the fans would be calling for him to start if EJ falters. If he can't win the job, then he shouldn't be starting. Geno Smith arguably showed as much promise as EJ last year (flame away!) and yet the Jets brought in Vick and drafted Boyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Once again, the point is not to draft someone to compete with EJ (not that there would be anything wrong with that). The point is that--again--there is no viable backup or developmental QB on the roster. To answer the question. Naw. Not a lick.To answer your second point is that Bills seem to think so. So do i . Viable backup and a project or two Edited May 10, 2014 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 T o answer the question. Naw. Not a lick. To answer your second point is that Bills seem to think so. So do i . Viable backup and a project or two How did that work out last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 We have 4 QBs. How many do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oman128 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) I think that the Bills are pussifying E.J. by not giving him more competition. Â At the very least bring in a QB and maybe upgrade our #2 or 3. Edited May 10, 2014 by oman128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 EJ DA GREAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 We have 4 QBs. How many do you want? I want two good ones. No one is sure if we even have one right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 How did that work out last year? We won some games, lost others. What were you expecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Obviously... the Bills are so enamored with Jeff Tuel that they didn't want him to ever see the practice squad, and they traded for Thad Lewis. Â Clearly they must think that they have a solid QB situation. Â Now that they added some O line help we all need to wait and see how this year turns out. I'm not upset they didn't bring in another QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 That was not the point. Once again, it appears that the team will enter the season with an injury-prone starter (with little experience), no quality backup, and no viable developmental prospect on the roster. This is the same mentality that led to drafting TJ Graham instead of Russell Wilson. Â Agree. Any of the QB prospects have equal or better chance than the scrubs they are picking in Rd 6 and 7. Murray would have been perfect. He is a gamer and a winner. He knows how to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I want two good ones. No one is sure if we even have one right now. We all want good ones. Who exactly do you want? Peyton Manning and Tom Brady? Who exactly is a capable back up if you were picking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 We have 4 QBs. How many do you want? Â One that is good. Having four QBs in camp is useless if they are not NFL caliber. But you knew that. Â Bills had an awesome offseason, but as almost everyone else said, it all hinges on EJ, and if he doesn't pan out, the Bills have an empty tank behind him. Unless you have super confidence that Lewis or Dixon will shine if pressed into action. And that's why the Watkins trade is a very high gamble on EJ. If he doesn't progress, this team is set back until 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Â We won some games, lost others. What were you expecting? A merely competent (i.e.,Fitz-level) backup would have resulted in at least three more wins last year. That's what I was expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Â Â One that is good. Having four QBs in camp is useless if they are not NFL caliber. But you knew that. Â Bills had an awesome offseason, but as almost everyone else said, it all hinges on EJ, and if he doesn't pan out, the Bills have an empty tank behind him. Unless you have super confidence that Lewis or Dixon will shine if pressed into action. And that's why the Watkins trade is a very high gamble on EJ. If he doesn't progress, this team is set back until 2016. I doubt Whaley would roll the dice on Watkins if he didn't think EJ wasn't going be able to get him the ball. You just have to hope Whaley knows more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Â We all want good ones. Who exactly do you want? Peyton Manning and Tom Brady? Who exactly is a capable back up if you were picking? How about a fifth round pick on Murray, Mettenberger, McCarron or Boyd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Disappointed, but not surprised. Â This decision to go all cards in has a 50 percent chance of screwing us. You have your choice between a potential elite QB to at least serve as a backup, and potentially as competition, and we go for depth. Seems screwy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 What the backup QB position is missing is not additional youth. It is missing experience. FA is alive and well, and how soon we forget, there will be NFL QBs available as cuts begin throughout the offseason leading into camp. The Bills are clearly committed to EJ for at least this season and the next. If at that time they feel they need to try again, they will have their first round pick back. Judging by Whaley's willingness to trade up, they will get their man one way or the other in 2016 if EJ flops. Like it or not, this appears to be the plan. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 it's great they have faith in EJ but it is foolish to think our QB situation is just fine the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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