billsfans126 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Going to the bills at jets next weekend! Anyone think Byrd or Gilmore or both play next weekend? Seeing the pressure we've been getting, you would think Byrd would want to come back to face geno smith. I know it's been 4 or 5 weeks for Gilmore. This could be a scary defense with them back and will feel much more comfortable about next weeks game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) No way Gilmore plays. I'm doubting Byrd too. Edited September 15, 2013 by Big C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Gilmore is injured. He will not be back for weeks. Byrd is pretending to be injured. He won't be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Going to the bills at jets next weekend! Anyone think Byrd or Gilmore or both play next weekend? Seeing the pressure we've been getting, you would think Byrd would want to come back to face geno smith. I know it's been 4 or 5 weeks for Gilmore. This could be a scary defense with them back and will feel much more comfortable about next weeks game Byrd probably won't play for at least another few weeks, given that he HAS to be 100%. Plantar Fasciitis can be bad, I know, but he's a world class athlete getting world class treatment. WTF. I had/still kind of have PF a little bit. This could/should have been fixed during the offseason. What the hell was he doing? You need rest, stretching, possible massage, anti inflammatory's, maybe some cortisone shots. THey also make socks that stretch the arch all night to help with healing. How is this not fixed? Gilmore is October at the earliest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Yeah, Byrd has quickly gone from our of our favorites to the TBD doghouse, and he fully deserves it. .... No one believes he's hurt so badly he can't play. Only he really knows, but again, no one believes him. When you lose trust, you lose the relationship. For Byrd, he's lost the relationship with the Bills fan, and I suspect with his teammates as well. Sad. Edited September 15, 2013 by CSBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 We need them. Rogers and Leonhard and Searcy still stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Byrd isn't faking, but he's not going to play at less than 100% because that could hurt his market value. Mario, on the other hand, is going to gut it out at 70-80% with the same injury because he already got paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Question: How can he or would he have been able to be traded as he wants, without being able to pass a physical? And why was he out all off season, only to be diag'ed with Plantar Fasciitis when coming bacl 1 week before season starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I'm betting Gilmore will be back for Cincy (game #6); possible the Clev game --- BTyrd, who knows ?? --- I gotta be 100% BS is crazy talk --- A Williams played strong game and McKelvin has been v good -- if we can get Gilmore back, we probably will be fine without BTyrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) I don't see Byrd playing before November just to get in half a season in hopes of cashing in Edited September 15, 2013 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Byrd isn't faking, but he's not going to play at less than 100% because that could hurt his market value. HAHAHA!!! That's funny. Are you buying swampland in Florida? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Hopefully we keep winning making it harder for him to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Hopefully we keep winning making it harder for him to leave. Byrd isn't free to leave, Bills can franchise him again but its obvious his priority is getting paid not winning Edited September 16, 2013 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 If Byrd wants to keep his market value high, he should get back onto the field ASAP and start taking snaps in Pettine's defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Byrd doesn't want to play for this team and will milk his foot thing all season. Question is how that will affect his market value in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 In regards to Byrd and his agent Parker, I wonder how it effects their leverage in negotiations not only with the Bills but other teams as well. that the Bills D is going to rank higher this year without him and his replacement has a big play for a TD while costing about 6.5 million less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 i dont get why so many of you are on the hate byrd train. seriously some blame has to be put on this FO for not getting him signed last season. the blind trust to this FO that they have been dedicated to getting it right and that its the players fault is insane. we still dont even know the full story. but im not gonna hate on byrd without thinking about the other parties involved could have some blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatszel Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Byrd isn't faking, but he's not going to play at less than 100% because that could hurt his market value. Mario, on the other hand, is going to gut it out at 70-80% with the same injury because he already got paid. Don't you think by not playing that is hurting his market value more. Who is going to pay 9 million to someone who is not going to be on the field. Also Plantar factitious does not usually just go away it recurs often so it will be long term problem more than likely. I think Byrd probably should have taken the Bills long term deal he might not get as good an offer this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 The FO knew of Byrd's PF last season . He must have wanted guaranteed #1 money multi years and that would be a big waste if he can't or won't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Going to the bills at jets next weekend! Anyone think Byrd or Gilmore or both play next weekend? Seeing the pressure we've been getting, you would think Byrd would want to come back to face geno smith. I know it's been 4 or 5 weeks for Gilmore. This could be a scary defense with them back and will feel much more comfortable about next weeks game Looks like Byrd doesn't want to be here so he'll likely draw this out as long as he can. Gilmore, no way, he's done for 6 game minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Gilmore should be back for Cleveland, but given how Cleveland is playing, I'd rather see him come back 100% for Cincy as we'll need it. Someone posted Byrd will start losing big money if he doesn;t get out there for Baltimore, but I can't remember the comment. If anyone knows what I'm referring to, that would help. If true, watch him be out there magically for Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Byrd's franchise tag money is guaranteed even if out injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 This team will be better once Gilmore returns. Byrd is an All-pro so contract situation be damned, once he gets back we will be even better. Does anybody think Brady throws to the middle of the end zone with Byrd back there?? Once he gets back to game shape Byrd will be an asset at FS. In any system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 With only Gilmore returning, this defense is exponentially better given what that would allow Pettine to do schematically. With only Byrd returning, it would be marginally better. With both returning it has the potential to be a Ravens-type defense, if Kiko keeps progressing at his current rate. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Byrd isn't stupid/ he knows in Pettine's D he can put up big numbers. I suspect his feet will soon feel better. Probably by next Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Don't you think by not playing that is hurting his market value more. Who is going to pay 9 million to someone who is not going to be on the field. Also Plantar factitious does not usually just go away it recurs often so it will be long term problem more than likely. I think Byrd probably should have taken the Bills long term deal he might not get as good an offer this time around. No. His body of work to this point is his resume he "gives" to prospective employers. Everyone in the lead knows what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I have been extremly impressed with that Roybi guy #37. He covered Edleman/Amendola like a blanket and was pretty good yesterday. McKelvin is playing lights out. We must have a new DB coach because he learned how to make a play on the ball. With Gilmore and Byrd our D could be scary good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Gilmore is going to make a big difference. The Bills have been getting away with Justin Rogers out there, but you can only cover up for a guy like that for so long. Rogers let his man get deep on several occasions, only to get bailed out by poorly thrown balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 On what planet is Byrd incentivized to sit on the sidelines and count his money? If he really wants to be paid, he'll get out on the field as soon as he possibly can. Until then, he's proving himself a liability. There's no reason for him not to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Side note: I loved how A. Williams played yesterday. Even though he had that late hit which really wasn't all that bad, he plays fast and hits extremely hard. Hes not afraid to stick his nose in there. We have needed that for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Going to the bills at jets next weekend! Anyone think Byrd or Gilmore or both play next weekend? Seeing the pressure we've been getting, you would think Byrd would want to come back to face geno smith. I know it's been 4 or 5 weeks for Gilmore. This could be a scary defense with them back and will feel much more comfortable about next weeks game Gilmore - yes, Byrd, just wants nothing to do with the team - would rather have young guys eager to learn and contribute and take our lumps that someone souring the milk with a lot of bad attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 If Byrd wants to keep his market value high, he should get back onto the field ASAP and start taking snaps in Pettine's defense. I agree with that one.... I'm not sure how to assess that for him and have no basis for making any claims about this injury. However the public look of this is that he's dragging his feet (no pun intended) to play. Particularly on an exciting up-and-coming team. Not sure how that would be viewed by the league if you're going to destroy your public image in a city and perhaps with a team over being named their Franchise Player that's not good. As a Free Safety, he's not at a critical position to cash in anyhow.... like a QB, LT or WR might be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 The kind of money Byrd will be asking for just isn't going to be there if he sits out this season IMHOP. If you are a team looking at him you have to guess whether this was a ploy (bad attitude) or if the guy is going to be a chronic injury risk. I don't see him getting an optimal result no matter what happens if he doesn't actually come out and play and play well for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 i dont get why so many of you are on the hate byrd train. seriously some blame has to be put on this FO for not getting him signed last season. the blind trust to this FO that they have been dedicated to getting it right and that its the players fault is insane. we still dont even know the full story. but im not gonna hate on byrd without thinking about the other parties involved could have some blame. well, there's that opinion and the other that Byrd is milking injuries so that he doesn't have to play and risk serious injury. Or the thought that his PF is worse than expected and he COULD play but why play at a lower level and look like crap when he's essentially in a contract year (again). Way too many coincidences that he held out and came in only to miss all games so far because of an injury that cannot be detected by doctors. With only Gilmore returning, this defense is exponentially better given what that would allow Pettine to do schematically. With only Byrd returning, it would be marginally better. With both returning it has the potential to be a Ravens-type defense, if Kiko keeps progressing at his current rate. GO BILLS!!! very well done my friend. Very well. If only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 i dont get why so many of you are on the hate byrd train. seriously some blame has to be put on this FO for not getting him signed last season. the blind trust to this FO that they have been dedicated to getting it right and that its the players fault is insane. we still dont even know the full story. but im not gonna hate on byrd without thinking about the other parties involved could have some blame. Because the perception is that he is being unreasonable in his salary expectations and when they weren't met he comes up with a phantom injury that he "oh by the way" didn't mention. How close this is to what is actually going on behind the scenes we will never know, but I for one am glad the Bills didn't make him the highest paid safety in the league. Somewhere around 3-5 should have been enough. To me the Bills are doing nothing more than acting in their best interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 One thing I was thinking during the game yesterday...The way Newton was terribly inaccurate at times, you just HAVE to know as a Bills fan Byrd would have had a couple of those passes...He's always had a knack for being in the right place on a miss-thrown football....And there were plenty of those yesterday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 No. His body of work to this point is his resume he "gives" to prospective employers. Everyone in the lead knows what he can do. Do they know what he can do after such a severe case of a chronic injury? Are they thinking - he's either faking and he'll be OK and do they want somebody like that or are they thinking he's got a major problem that will plague him the rest of his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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