first_and_ten Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Sorry if this has been mentioned..but Torrell Troup tweeted this today. Torell Troup@TorellTroup9h Feels good to be in camp and kno that im truly healthy and dont have to worry about playin hurt. Worked hard for a year and a half for this. Is there hope for this guy to finally do something? Would be a pleasant surprise if he made an impact. Edited July 28, 2013 by first_and_ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Sorry if this has ben mentioned..but Torrell Troup tweeted this today. Torell Troup@TorellTroup9h Feels good to be in camp and kno that im truly healthy and dont have to worry about playin hurt. Worked hard for a year and a half for this. Is there hope for this guy to finally do something? Would be a pleasant surprise if he made an impact. There is always hope. If he could give us 80% of what he was initially brought here to do I think we could have a great asset for this line. I would love to see us having a rotational situation on the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I have high hopes for him if fully healthy. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 There is lots of hope and dire need. He and Branch are the only guys who can play NT in the 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owf71 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Sweet he's finally healthy enough to release. I'm sorry I had high hopes for this guy but he's always a let down. I feel bad for his constant injury problem but it's time to cut the cord. Plenty of talent out there not getting rich on the sidelines in street clothes EVERY YEAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoretalk Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Sweet he's finally healthy enough to release. I'm sorry I had high hopes for this guy but he's always a let down. I feel bad for his constant injury problem but it's time to cut the cord. Plenty of talent out there not getting rich on the sidelines in street clothes EVERY YEAR! Definitely feel for the guy ... this is his last chance but as I posted a year or so ago ... I worry more about the life-long negative impact to his health that is occurring because he keeps trying to play. If he is truly healthy I do believe that this coaching staff will give him a fair shot. If he makes it great ... if it is time to hang up the cleats I hope he does that rather than becoming fodder for some other team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 This injury takes 18 months to 2 years to recover from. Gronk has similar issues with his back and we see how little rest he has taken. I give him until week 8 to be 100% in rhythm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If you have ever hurt your back, you understand how disabling that can be. If you never have then you have no opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owf71 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Definitely feel for the guy ... this is his last chance but as I posted a year or so ago ... I worry more about the life-long negative impact to his health that is occurring because he keeps trying to play. If he is truly healthy I do believe that this coaching staff will give him a fair shot. If he makes it great ... if it is time to hang up the cleats I hope he does that rather than becoming fodder for some other team in the league. Agreed, if he's 100% have at it kid and bring back the ring, but if he's only "healthy" because he's been rehabbing and gearing his training around not hurting his back I'm afraid of it being the "same ole Troup" story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 This guy is still on the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Phoenix Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I have hope for Troup, and I'm pulling for him. He showed brief signs his rookie year that he could play while out of position. Troup may have been damaged the most by Gailey and staff's ineptitude on defense. Put Troup at NT, and he may be a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If you have ever hurt your back, you understand how disabling that can be. If you never have then you have no opinion ive had back spasms and not even very bad ones and they flat out suck. So painful and you really can't do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If you have ever hurt your back, you understand how disabling that can be. If you never have then you have no opinion agreed. there is trying to carry on with everyday life with back pain. and then there is trying to fight of multiple 300+pounders with back pain. a human being can push themselves through a lot of things, but back injuries are not one of those things. i really hope troup is healthy so he can give his best and see if that is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I had the same surgery as Troup - or a very similar one. My surgeon didn't let me run (or do much of anything) for 7 months. So I turned to my next favorite hobby - eating - and become a fat couch potato. Disc fusion surgery usually entails a pretty lengthy recovery. With better coaching and a healthy back - we'll finally see what Troup can do this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I'll let his play on the field talk but it's great to hear he's feeling ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) If you have ever hurt your back, you understand how disabling that can be. If you never have then you have no opinion Have you played NFL football? If not, by your logic you shouldn't be on these boards. (The argument that you can't have an opinion just because you don't have first-hand experience on the subject matter is old, beaten and false). Edited July 28, 2013 by DStebb716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If you have ever hurt your back, you understand how disabling that can be. If you never have then you have no opinion DITTO !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 There is lots of hope and dire need. He and Branch are the only guys who can play NT in the 3-4 Exactly. We do not have the correct personnel for Pettine's defense. Most all the bills front 7 were selected for a 4 - 3. ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 He has been the forgotten (unnoticed ?) man the past two seasons, hopefully he begins to reach his potential this year. If he does, it will be a bonus to the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If he makes the team, it's like found money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Good for Troup. If after all his adversity he can add something to the trenches, it would be huge for everybody. It blows my mind what the human body has to endure taking on the double teams inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 The difference between most of us and professional football players (in terms of injuries) is that when we recover, we go back to our offices, classrooms, assembly lines, etc.--places where we can reasonably assume we will not be exposing ourselves to further injury. Linemen, who are the only players on the field virtually guaranteed to engage an opponent on every play, are the most vulnerable to back injury. Let's hope that TT can avoid further injury, contribute to the team, and lift his grandkids some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 It would be nice if he made it, and finally lived up to what we were hoping. I'm not counting on it of course, but it would be good to finally see it in play, especially considering his body size makes him a really nice fit to have a prototypical Nose Tackle. Even with all my skepticism, a small part of me would love to see Dareus, Carrington and Troup to all come alive on defense along with decent rookie outings from Manuel, Woods and Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billshank Redemption Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Literally forgot he was still here but I really hope he can finally contribute, depth on the line is never a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Sorry if this has been mentioned..but Torrell Troup tweeted this today. Torell Troup@TorellTroup9h Feels good to be in camp and kno that im truly healthy and dont have to worry about playin hurt. Worked hard for a year and a half for this. Is there hope for this guy to finally do something? Would be a pleasant surprise if he made an impact. Haven't we heard this before? I would be shocked if he makes the team and actually contributes Edited July 28, 2013 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You people with back pains, go read the book by Dr. Sarno. Mind Body Connection. There is als one he wrote about healing back pain. They both will tell you a lot about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Easley and Troup, more than a quarter ton of promise, its put up or see you in the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Wait till they start hitting,that will tell all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJBrown7 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Haven't we heard this before? I would be shocked if he makes the team and actually contributes The guy played with a broken back. Your tone suggests he is along the McCargo route. Totally different thing. By all accounts TT has been on a mission to get healthy. He flashed some talent as a rookie and couple that his determination we could have something here. He made some decent $ the past few years, more than most of us have a chance to make and could easily have walked away but didn't. I am pulling for him and like someone else said, we are basically playing with house money here. Edited July 28, 2013 by PJBrown7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Lets hope Troup can produce, one less piece the team would have to find. Branch is only here for a year most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optometric Insight Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If we play both 3-4 and 4-3, it should work great if Troup is healthy and able to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Not to be a negative Nancy but he is Marcus Easley (or John McCargo) to me. A guy that has stuck for multiple years and contributed nothing. I hope that he proves me wrong because we were told that he is a run stuffer. This team needs to stuff the run. I'll believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I think people who have never had a back injury or back pain don't fully appreciate just how debilitating it is. Back pain isn't like muscle pain, there is no "playing through it" or "toughing it out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Not to be a negative Nancy but he is Marcus Easley (or John McCargo) to me. A guy that has stuck for multiple years and contributed nothing. I hope that he proves me wrong because we were told that he is a run stuffer. This team needs to stuff the run. I'll believe it when I see it. Even before the injuries he was a bit of a project/gamble of a pick. So even if he's at 100% and every bit as talented as he was years ago, its still a longshot to be a heavy contributor. As said earlier, any contribution would be like found money. Too many of these guys all over the league and such a tiny percentage ever actually pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If he makes the team, it's like found money. Found money?? They've been paying this guy not to play for the past 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You people with back pains, go read the book by Dr. Sarno. Mind Body Connection. There is als one he wrote about healing back pain. They both will tell you a lot about it. Thanks for the recommendation. I've tried a number of non-surgical modalities over the years including chiropractic, massage, cortisone injections, PT, yoga, meditation, electric stimulation and various programs from books similar to Sarno's (though never Sarno's spefically). For me, nothing worked. The disc between my L4 and L5 vertebrae was basically gone and my L5 was way out of alignment so I finally went with the surgical option: Transformal Lumbar Interbody Fusion (I think Troup had the same). Now I'm running 12 miles per week with no back pain and will push that up to 50 as I get in back in shape. So I'm happy with the operation and hope Troup is too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You people with back pains, go read the book by Dr. Sarno. Mind Body Connection. There is als one he wrote about healing back pain. They both will tell you a lot about it. Are you a Howard Stern fan by chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Are you a Howard Stern fan by chance? No, huge Imus fan. Imus is awesome. Also, Gene Lasker and HTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Should have kept Kellen Heard and dropped Troupe. The nose is ground zero for big collisions and back-breaking battles. The odds are that he won't hold up, and I think if he gets hurt again Whaley is going to release him. I don't blame him for working hard and being optimistic, the poor guy is trying to make a living but his body isn't cooperating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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