ny33 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/9178890/2013-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-makes-picks-gm-every-nfl-team 8) Ezekiel Ansah 41) Keenan Allen 71) Ryan Nassib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 http://insider.espn....-every-nfl-team 8) Ezekiel Ansah 41) Keenan Allen 71) Ryan Nassib Wow...I'm no Kiper fan, but if that happened, I would be very, very happy. Tons of potential there. That said, I think the chances are 0.00000000000000000000001% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy in 4C Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 That draft would get Buddy Nix a spot on the wall at the Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 We are NOT a team that should be looking at Ansah in the 1st. I really hope the organization learned something from the Flowers & Maybin picks & drafting pass rushers with "high potential". If Ansah goes to a good team where he can be a situational pass rusher & learn behind solid vets, he could really develop. If he came here and is expected to be a solid starter right away, high flop potential. That said, if we replace the Ansah pick with some other top-10 defensive player, A+++ draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Except Nassib isnt gonna last that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 We are NOT a team that should be looking at Ansah in the 1st. I really hope the organization learned something from the Flowers & Maybin picks & drafting pass rushers with "high potential". If Ansah goes to a good team where he can be a situational pass rusher & learn behind solid vets, he could really develop. If he came here and is expected to be a solid starter right away, high flop potential. That said, if we replace the Ansah pick with some other top-10 defensive player, A+++ draft. Yeah cause we don't have any "solid vets". We only have crappy Mario Williams, Anderson, and now Lawson. We would desperately need him to come in and be our number one pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) Interestingly, he has, in this mock, Detroit trading up to #1 and grabbing Dee Milliner. Geno Smith is the only first round QB, drafted by the Eagles in a trade-up to #25; Barkley is drafted with the first pick of the second round. Edited April 17, 2013 by ny33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 That's a bad mock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 http://insider.espn....-every-nfl-team 8) Ezekiel Ansah 41) Keenan Allen 71) Ryan Nassib Dear Mel Kiper, you are an idiot and if you were worth a damn you would be making multi millions for an NFL Team. That said, there is no way in hell Nassib is there at #71. He will be gone in the first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Ugh...Information in the lead up to the draft is disseminated and reported on thanks to agents and agents alone. I know for certain the Kiper has ties to agents and that's what gives him a shred of credibility...but Ansah--while he seems like a great story--having only started nine games, having never heard of football until 2010 it the complete antecedent to Nix's formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) Dear Mel Kiper, you are an idiot and if you were worth a damn you would be making multi millions for an NFL Team. That said, there is no way in hell Nassib is there at #71. He will be gone in the first I hear that argument about Kiper a lot. I think some of you dudes over estimate what a scout earns. That's all Kiper is doing, scouting college prospects. He's not picking coaches, or scouting pro players, calling Tampa Bay's GM back on the phone or the stuff you need a smart and savvy operator like Buddy Nix for. It's safe to say that Mel is money-ahead NOT being an NFL scout. http://insider.espn....-every-nfl-team 8) Ezekiel Ansah 41) Keenan Allen 71) Ryan Nassib My heart would love to see the Bills take Ansah at 8. He is a very high risk, very high reward player. Incredibly physical tackler, great range and strength to set the edge as a 3-4 OLB. But my head knows that if you don't have a QB, you are essentially doooooomed to failure. So this mock really makes no sense when Kevin Kolb is at the top of your depth chart. I know some people are holding out hope that Kolb stays healthy and does something after 3 years of being Arizona's Trent Edwards but without using the benefit of hindsight......can anyone remember the Bills depth chart at QB looking so un-promising? Gotta' take a chance on a QB. A good starting QB would be worth more to the franchise than 10 straight pro-bowls from Ansah. Edited April 17, 2013 by BADOLBEELZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 We are NOT a team that should be looking at Ansah in the 1st. I really hope the organization learned something from the Flowers & Maybin picks & drafting pass rushers with "high potential". If Ansah goes to a good team where he can be a situational pass rusher & learn behind solid vets, he could really develop. If he came here and is expected to be a solid starter right away, high flop potential. That said, if we replace the Ansah pick with some other top-10 defensive player, A+++ draft. Solid vets like Mario Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I hear that argument about Kiper a lot. I think some of you dudes over estimate what a scout earns. That's all Kiper is doing, scouting college prospects. He's not picking coaches, or scouting pro players, calling Tampa Bay's GM back on the phone or the stuff you need a smart and savvy operator like Buddy Nix for. It's safe to say that Mel is money-ahead NOT being an NFL scout. My heart would love to see the Bills take Ansah at 8. He is a very high risk, very high reward player. Incredibly physical tackler, great range and strength to set the edge as a 3-4 OLB. But my head knows that if you don't have a QB, you are essentially doooooomed to failure. So this mock really makes no sense when Kevin Kolb is at the top of your depth chart. I know some people are holding out hope that Kolb stays healthy and does something after 3 years of being Arizona's Trent Edwards but without using the benefit of hindsight......can anyone remember the Bills depth chart at QB looking so un-promising? Gotta' take a chance on a QB. A good starting QB would be worth more to the franchise than 10 straight pro-bowls from Ansah. I don't mind takin' a shot on a QB, but I don't believe it MUST be done @ #8. There's a good chance they could end up w/ another Blaine Gabbert, Akili Smith, or even Sanchize by goin' so high for one. Do your research on the guys who should be there in Rounds 2 or 3. Seriously folks, the draft does not conclude w/ the 32nd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I don't mind takin' a shot on a QB, but I don't believe it MUST be done @ #8. There's a good chance they could end up w/ another Blaine Gabbert, Akili Smith, or even Sanchize by goin' so high for one. Do your research on the guys who should be there in Rounds 2 or 3. Seriously folks, the draft does not conclude w/ the 32nd pick. There really are so few though. People should forget about using Russell Wilson as an example, it was a total fluke of a player that is likely to never happen again. Kaepernick is the only example in the last few years of a 2-3 rounder who is really a serious potential franchise guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I don't mind takin' a shot on a QB, but I don't believe it MUST be done @ #8. There's a good chance they could end up w/ another Blaine Gabbert, Akili Smith, or even Sanchize by goin' so high for one. Do your research on the guys who should be there in Rounds 2 or 3. Seriously folks, the draft does not conclude w/ the 32nd pick. The problem is that its essentially impossible to get a franchise QB after roughly pick 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 The problem is that its essentially impossible to get a franchise QB after roughly pick 35. Very difficult, I grant you, but not impossible. It would be better if there were more prospects to feel really good 'bout in regards to QBs. I just don't feel comfortable w/ the prospect of passin' up a good player somewhere else to gamble on any of this year's QB early. I've seen enough of the Bills draftin' for need and leavin' guys like Haloti Ngata and Vince Wilfork available for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Except Nassib isnt gonna last that long Even Kiper agrees with you: "I wouldn't project Nassib to last that long in the real draft, but in this one I'm about maximizing value, and I have him with a late second-round grade." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 The problem is that its essentially impossible to get a franchise QB after roughly pick 35. granted, but there seems to be a contingent on here who seems to think if you take Nassib with the 8th pick then he will be a franchise QB but if you take him at 41 or 71 then he will be a bum- as if the act of taking a QB early makes that QB better rather than you take a QB early because you evaluate that QB as superior to other QBs not only in a particular draft but also to other QBs in the NFL now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 granted, but there seems to be a contingent on here who seems to think if you take Nassib with the 8th pick then he will be a franchise QB but if you take him at 41 or 71 then he will be a bum- as if the act of taking a QB early makes that QB better rather than you take a QB early because you evaluate that QB as superior to other QBs not only in a particular draft but also to other QBs in the NFL now. Perhaps it's because NFL scouts and GMs know a wee bit more than message board posters, and if player X has a decent chance at all to be a franchise QB, one of the people with actual jobs doing this will take him in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 i dont get this ziggy ansah love. what has he done in actual games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Wow...I'm no Kiper fan, but if that happened, I would be very, very happy. Tons of potential there. That said, I think the chances are 0.00000000000000000000001% Considering that Kiper hits on 1 of 10 picks we should not hold our breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Dude Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Wow...I'm no Kiper fan, but if that happened, I would be very, very happy. Tons of potential there. That said, I think the chances are 0.00000000000000000000001% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Unless he's implying that by taking Nassib in the third round he actually means we trade up there's no way of that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 A Roscoe Parrish_sized receiver at 8? And Nassib lasting to the third round? Somebody must have poisoned Kiper's hair pomade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Ansah is a project where Nix will never be around to see him produce. I would take the guy on the other end of that line, Van Noy, not Ansah. Keenan Allen is all right, and has some Stevie in him, but I prefer the other WRs, Cordarelle, Hunter, and Hopkins. Nassib will be third off the board of the QBs, so RD2 before 41. Kiper strikeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 The problem is that its essentially impossible to get a franchise QB after roughly pick 35. Is this a joke I am missing? Tell Brady that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I don't like Ansah to The Bills at all...Makes zero sense to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Keenan Allen, never knew he was Zach Maynard's half-brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReturnoftheBuffaloBeast23 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) On my life if that happened I might cry tears of joy... But as a Bills fan since first tooth I know my wet dreams turn to nightmares all the time with this team.... Wow...I'm no Kiper fan, but if that happened, I would be very, very happy. Tons of potential there. That said, I think the chances are 0.00000000000000000000001% To quote the great Lloyd Christmas "So you say 0.00000000000000000000001% chance? I have a shot then"...LOL.... Edited April 18, 2013 by ReturnoftheBuffaloBeast23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 so far Kiper has the most reasonable draft spot for Nassib I have seen in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 so far Kiper has the most reasonable draft spot for Nassib I have seen in a while And you have Manuel going in the 3rd. How reasonable of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Is this a joke I am missing? Tell Brady that. the problem with the Bills is that they haven't found enough quality in the 6th, your'e right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Bills Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Address needs, we cant afford to spend a 1st on a DE. 1) J.Jones, Ogeltree, Warmack or Fisher. 2) Keenan Allen, Terrance Williams, DeAndre Hopkins or Robert Woods. 3) Nassib, T Wilson or M.Glennon Best case is trading down and landing 4 of these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Wow...I'm no Kiper fan, but if that happened, I would be very, very happy. Tons of potential there. That said, I think the chances are 0.00000000000000000000001% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 http://insider.espn....-every-nfl-team 8) Ezekiel Ansah 41) Keenan Allen 71) Ryan Nassib Nassib is not lasting till the 3rd round when there are at least 5 QB needy teams ahead of us in each round of the draft (Jax, Oakland, Cleveland, Arizona, Jets) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Nassib is not lasting till the 3rd round when there are at least 5 QB needy teams ahead of us in each round of the draft (Jax, Oakland, Cleveland, Arizona, Jets) Plus a lot of other teams looking for depth or a project to sit behind a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I think there's .000000000001% chance nassib last til the 3rd. Too many teams need QBs and he's a decent prospect. I can't see the jets passing on him in round 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) i just want to see the "Top 10 Selections" list... I would be impressed enough with that. Predicting 3 rounds of the draft is just completely ridiculous, and embarrassing. How do these "draft experts" look people in the eye while they spout this drivel? What kind of a sham "expertise" are these con-men profiting on? Seriously, it's a load of crap. Edited April 18, 2013 by Marauder'sMicro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 i just want to see the "Top 10 Selections" list... I would be impressed enough with that. Predicting 3 rounds of the draft is just completely ridiculous, and embarrassing. How do these "draft experts" look people in the eye while they spout this drivel? What kind of a sham "expertise" are these con-men profiting on? Seriously, it's a load of crap. To be fair, the "experts" are generally aware that their work is largely for entertainment value and not scouting accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 To be fair, the "experts" are generally aware that their work is largely for entertainment value and not scouting accuracy. I know, but what a weird way to make a living! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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