ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 It's been frustrating to watch McKelvin cover receivers well, and then fail at the "Moment of Truth" as he watches the nearby receiver catch a ball right next to him. Turns out, there may be a scientific explanation for this - - if you're curious about it, read this link: http://news.yahoo.com/athletes-minds-excel-motion-tracking-145606624.html The article explains that professional athletes excel at 3-D motion tracking (in comparison to other population groups). They also have a thicker part of the brain called the "superior temporal sulcus." While it is unclear if innate ability or experience explains the differences among people, all groups can improve their 3-D motion tracking with visual training. Seems to me like: 1. the Bills should see if McKelvin could benefit from such visual training exercises; and 2. the Bills should test DBs and receivers for this ability before drafting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'd agree with both 1 and 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Best thread title on TSW EVER!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Fascinating. If I was a coach on a pro team I would definitely look into this to see if it had any validity. Testing and training results could be incredible and cost effective if it actually had any reasonable validity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 WOW & i thought it was just another bad move by our scouting department !! Maybe his Temporal Sulcus isn't as superior as we thought A ? Poor guy ... I was thinking that b/c he didn't do as well at DB what might happen if they did with him what they did with G. Wilson & change him to a WR ? We need a burner on the outside but if his Temporal Sulcus isn't that superior then scratch that idea !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Best thread title on TSW EVER!!! I thought it was going to be thin skinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 wouldnt that mean he had an inferior superior temporal succubus thus cancelling it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorWideRight Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) It's been frustrating to watch McKelvin cover receivers well, and then fail at the "Moment of Truth" as he watches the nearby receiver catch a ball right next to him. Turns out, there may be a scientific explanation for this - - if you're curious about it, read this link: http://news.yahoo.co...-145606624.html The article explains that professional athletes excel at 3-D motion tracking (in comparison to other population groups). They also have a thicker part of the brain called the "superior temporal sulcus." While it is unclear if innate ability or experience explains the differences among people, all groups can improve their 3-D motion tracking with visual training. Seems to me like: 1. the Bills should see if McKelvin could benefit from such visual training exercises; and 2. the Bills should test DBs and receivers for this ability before drafting them. I think McKelvin could benefit more from a coach putting his foot in his a__ (hee haw hee haw). Edited January 31, 2013 by thebambino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Not sure I "see" the point here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Wow. Interesting. Never would have thought anything like this would be an issue. Maybe they should explore more into the visual training exercises. Is there a coverage/system that would better suit him knowing he has this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Use the Toronto money to pay for testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 I think McKelvin could benefit more from a coach putting his foot in his a__ (hee haw hee haw). Well, I don't know about kicking him in the a$$, but stimulating the posterior portion of his superior temporal sulcus might help: http://www.psych-it.com.au/Psychlopedia/article.asp?id=416 The superior temporal sulcus is a long trench, called a sulcus, in the temporal lobe. In essence, this region is vital to social competence. To a significant extent, the anterior portion of this sulcus is primarily involved in the processing of speech. The posterior portion is more involved in an array of other tasks, including facial processing, motion processing, the integration of audio and vision information, as well as theory of mind--or deciphering the beliefs and perspectives of other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Why wouldnt I be surprised if Belichick has been using this testing for years? Not that his dbs are excellent, but he's always ahead of the curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 And I thought it would just be a case of a decent secondary coach telling him: "when you see the receivers pupils widen as their brain tells the vision center to focus the eyes on the ball coming towards them, turn your head around toward the line of scrimmage and look for the ball that is flying through the air towards you and the receiver"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Wouldn't he actually have to have looked for the ball on occasion to make this point have any validity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR4444 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 who started this thread, Gorilla Monsoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 McKelvin has elite talent. This guy is going to play another 5-8 years in the NFL. You can't coach speed, quickness, and change of direction. We know he can't turn and track balls very well. Can this be improved? Maybe? Can he be put in a better situation? Yes. I thought he was going to excel in the slot. He can jam recievers and then go with them usually on short crossing routes or out patterns. He struggles with fly patterns more than anything. In the slot he would have a safety over the top. Williams getting hurt forced him to the outside again. I hope he is resigned to a fair contract and the new staff convinces him to stay. They can say we made Revis a star and we can do the same for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Wouldn't he actually have to have looked for the ball on occasion to make this point have any validity? Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) who started this thread, Gorilla Monsoon? He's dead - - so if I was him I'd literally be asleep. Edited January 31, 2013 by ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'd agree with both 1 and 2. 2nd that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) It's been frustrating to watch McKelvin cover receivers well, and then fail at the "Moment of Truth" as he watches the nearby receiver catch a ball right next to him. Turns out, there may be a scientific explanation for this - - if you're curious about it, read this link: http://news.yahoo.co...-145606624.html The article explains that professional athletes excel at 3-D motion tracking (in comparison to other population groups). They also have a thicker part of the brain called the "superior temporal sulcus." While it is unclear if innate ability or experience explains the differences among people, all groups can improve their 3-D motion tracking with visual training. Seems to me like: 1. the Bills should see if McKelvin could benefit from such visual training exercises; and 2. the Bills should test DBs and receivers for this ability before drafting them. Haha, love this post. I'm thinking TJ Graham may suffer from the same condition. Edited January 31, 2013 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) The good news is that our new offensive coordinator has a degree in neurobiology, and here's a direct quote from him: http://wgr550.com/Bi...NFL-OC/15360055 I think it's so critical to study everything," Hackett remarked. "Just like getting your Ph.D. in anything you're going to do, you have to keep studying. So for all we know, he may already be working on thickening Graham's superior temporal sulcus. Edited February 1, 2013 by ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorWideRight Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 McKelvin has elite talent. This guy is going to play another 5-8 years in the NFL. You can't coach speed, quickness, and change of direction. We know he can't turn and track balls very well. Can this be improved? Maybe? Can he be put in a better situation? Yes. I thought he was going to excel in the slot. He can jam recievers and then go with them usually on short crossing routes or out patterns. He struggles with fly patterns more than anything. In the slot he would have a safety over the top. Williams getting hurt forced him to the outside again. I hope he is resigned to a fair contract and the new staff convinces him to stay. They can say we made Revis a star and we can do the same for you. You stated, They can say we made Revis a star and we can do the same for you. McKelvin is definitely a dumb jamoke, but even he wouldn't buy that bullsh-t. He may be stupid, but NOT that stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryCoke Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 you might be on to something. Is there a side effect that causes the individual to talk like there are 7 marbles in their mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 It's been frustrating to watch McKelvin cover receivers well, and then fail at the "Moment of Truth" as he watches the nearby receiver catch a ball right next to him. Turns out, there may be a scientific explanation for this - - if you're curious about it, read this link: http://news.yahoo.co...-145606624.html The article explains that professional athletes excel at 3-D motion tracking (in comparison to other population groups). They also have a thicker part of the brain called the "superior temporal sulcus." While it is unclear if innate ability or experience explains the differences among people, all groups can improve their 3-D motion tracking with visual training. Seems to me like: 1. the Bills should see if McKelvin could benefit from such visual training exercises; and 2. the Bills should test DBs and receivers for this ability before drafting them. Nah. McK's problems arise form an apparently thin cerebral cortex. Anyway, the Bills only known pre-draft testing is having potential QBs stand next to a cardboard cut-out of a kid that says "you must be taller than me to play for the Buffalo Bills". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 It would really sulcus if we lost McKelvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hplarrm Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I remember in my pre-draft evaluations saying this abput him as even I could see this looking at film on TV. It really is amazing how much the paid Bills scouts miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 It's all in the scouting report.... Duh Leodis McKelvin, CB and return-man extraordinare, from Troy. McKelvin posted the 7th best 40 time at the Combine with his 4.38. An All-American his senior year, McKelvin registered 60 tackles, forced three fumbles, had two INTs, and broke up nine passes. Scouts say he isn't the best ball-hawk in the draft, but his overall skills as a CB are legit. His wiry frame should allow him to put on 5-10 pounds without compromising his stand-out quickness and speed, something that will be necessary as he adjusts to making plays in the running game in the far more physical and demanding professional game. He has a notoriously under sized superior temporal sulcus but an adequatly sized corpus callosum. McKelvin's true value however, rests in his abilities as a punt and kickoff returner. His 8 total returns (7 punts, 1 kickoff) ties an NCAA record, and his total return yards of 3,817 snapped Deltha O'Neal's previous best mark of 3,455 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 I remember in my pre-draft evaluations saying this abput him as even I could see this looking at film on TV. It really is amazing how much the paid Bills scouts miss. Was there some sort of indentation in his skull above his ear when he took his helmet off, or do you just have X-ray vision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 It may be short but it sure is thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 It's all in the scouting report.... Duh Leodis McKelvin, CB and return-man extraordinare, from Troy. McKelvin posted the 7th best 40 time at the Combine with his 4.38. An All-American his senior year, McKelvin registered 60 tackles, forced three fumbles, had two INTs, and broke up nine passes. Scouts say he isn't the best ball-hawk in the draft, but his overall skills as a CB are legit. His wiry frame should allow him to put on 5-10 pounds without compromising his stand-out quickness and speed, something that will be necessary as he adjusts to making plays in the running game in the far more physical and demanding professional game. He has a notoriously under sized superior temporal sulcus but an adequately sized corpus callosum. To the bolded above, I remember scouts saying that this was the exact reason that Talib and Rodgers-Cromartie were better prospects. Also at the combine, McKelvin's Parietal Node measured small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albany c2 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 This could very well be the best thread we see this offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 If we can just add Karl Deisseroth and/or Kwanghun Chung to the training staff, we will have the ability to make McKelvin's brain transparent: http://med.stanford.edu/ism/2013/april/clarity.html The mound of convoluted grey matter and wiring that is the brain is a complex and inscrutable place. Neuroscientists have struggled to fully understand its circuitry in their quest to comprehend how the brain works, and why, sometimes, it doesn't. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Transforming human brains into transparent-but-stable specimens with accessible wiring and molecular detail may yield improved understanding of the structural underpinnings of brain function and disease. Let's hire these guys so we can see just exactly how thin McKelvin's superior temporal sulcus really is, and trace the neuron pathways in his brain. Maybe then the Stanford guys can figure out why he ran that kickoff return out of the end zone against New England and fumbled the game away. Kwanghun? Maybe his parents named him after the K-gun offense, and he'll work cheap. What have we got to lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 It's been frustrating to watch McKelvin cover receivers well, and then fail at the "Moment of Truth" as he watches the nearby receiver catch a ball right next to him. Turns out, there may be a scientific explanation for this - - if you're curious about it, read this link: http://news.yahoo.co...-145606624.html The article explains that professional athletes excel at 3-D motion tracking (in comparison to other population groups). They also have a thicker part of the brain called the "superior temporal sulcus." While it is unclear if innate ability or experience explains the differences among people, all groups can improve their 3-D motion tracking with visual training. Seems to me like: 1. the Bills should see if McKelvin could benefit from such visual training exercises; and 2. the Bills should test DBs and receivers for this ability before drafting them. This is actually good news to me. When I read the subject line I was like "Damn, I think is the thing that made Derrick Burroughs retire" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 TMZ has obtained a picture of McKelvin's corrective surgery: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) It's all in the scouting report.... Duh Leodis McKelvin, CB and return-man extraordinare, from Troy. McKelvin posted the 7th best 40 time at the Combine with his 4.38. An All-American his senior year, McKelvin registered 60 tackles, forced three fumbles, had two INTs, and broke up nine passes. Scouts say he isn't the best ball-hawk in the draft, but his overall skills as a CB are legit. His wiry frame should allow him to put on 5-10 pounds without compromising his stand-out quickness and speed, something that will be necessary as he adjusts to making plays in the running game in the far more physical and demanding professional game. He has a notoriously under sized superior temporal sulcus but an adequatly sized corpus callosum. McKelvin's true value however, rests in his abilities as a punt and kickoff returner. His 8 total returns (7 punts, 1 kickoff) ties an NCAA record, and his total return yards of 3,817 snapped Deltha O'Neal's previous best mark of 3,455 yards. On the positive side of some scouting reports, McKelvin should benefit from an above average corpora cavernosa. Edited April 13, 2013 by Ramius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperDeck Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Fascinating. If I was a coach on a pro team I would definitely look into this to see if it had any validity. Testing and training results could be incredible and cost effective if it actually had any reasonable validity Get the Analytics Department on this, STAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 this is a very interesting topic. i haven't heard of this, but it really could benefit everyone on the bills not just the wr's and db's it would be interesting to see this integrated into testing players and perhaps even an additional set of conditioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Call me crazy, but I have always expected a thin Superior Temporal Sulcus was McK's problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 you might be on to something. Is there a side effect that causes the individual to talk like there are 7 marbles in their mouth? Beat me to it. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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