wnyguy Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Given the extension to Fitz, the resigning of Stevie, the acquisition of Mario and Anderson, the pleas to Cowher and Shanahan, taking care of Freddie, etc - can someone point me to something that says money has been even the slightest factor during the Nix/Gailey regime? Don't forget, they payed 10 bucks an hour to shovel snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Is a time else wondering if this is Thurman's "MOFO" comments? Move Over Front Office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Let's see, perhaps because Nix is stepping down and Ralph no longer has input. If you don't consider that change, I have a large plot of wetland in Florida you might be interested in. Do you think Ralph will really no longer call regularly? RB will still be employed by RW. And nix is still in. This seems to give RB more leeway to do what he wants, but I think he was already the top guy in shaping Ralph's opinion- as indicated by Ralph choosing him. Heck, just a few years ago russ was GM and in charge of all things football too. I think it's a positive move but not near the radical change you are expecting. Edited January 1, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 wait, really? If only there was a 10-page thread about this already... [just giving you a hard time] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maguire's Beer Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 This isn't really true. You can offer the ability to run your show TODAY. I don't see how much has really changed - by all accounts Russ was already mostly in charge. He can say it's his team, but it's not - it's Ralph's team. We'll unfortunately be reminded of this somewhere in the not so distant future given his age and apparent health issues in the last year. Then what? A new owner will once again be holding the keys. If there was some sort of succession plan announced as part of this transition, would be a lot more promising for a potential next coach. But now Russ has all the incentive in the world - more than he even had as CEO - to ensure that he keeps his elevated position under new ownership. In practice, that means he has to try to become PART of the new ownership. He needs to ally himself with an ownership group that will retain him as the managing partner, even while he doesn't bring any serious money to the table. That sounds daunting, but Russ has two key pieces of leverage - his current role as owner-in-all-but-title, and his close relationship with Ralph. If anyone is going to convince Ralph to give a hometown discount to a prospective ownership group, it's his boy Russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Thanks, I always do. Nothing better than family and football. And yes, Nix is stepping down. https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora Just not today...after the draft. Last time that happened AJ Smith blew the draft on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Thanks, I always do. Nothing better than family and football. And yes, Nix is stepping down. https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora Just not today...after the draft. Brandon and Whaley hire the next coach, I'm guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Move Over Front Office? hey, if Russ is in control, maybe he gets rid of Littman and the Chronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 And yes, Nix is stepping down. https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora Just not today...after the draft. this is the only way Waley would stay with the bills...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Last time that happened AJ Smith blew the draft on purpose. Butler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 thanks. appreciate the mention. jw You know what they say - any press is good press! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Do you think Ralph will really no longer call regularly? RB will still be employed by RW. And nix is still in. This seems to give RB more leeway to do what he wants, but I think he was already the top guy in shaping Ralph's opinion- as indicated by Ralph choosing him. I think it's a positive move but not near the radical change you are expecting. I didn't say it would be a "radical" change, but it will definitely be a change. Last time that happened AJ Smith blew the draft on purpose. So you think Whaley is going to purposely tank the draft to get out of his future job as GM of the Bills? I disagree. Brandon and Whaley hire the next coach, I'm guessing. That's what La Canfora said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGimp Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 So the big changes will be a new website and so fancy email campaigns! Meanwhile, they will hire another chump like Wisehunt and not draft any top QB because Chan told Buddy day dee boy ain't no good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 this takes LITTMAN out of the picture.... Brandon is now free to spend raplh's money to hire a big time coach..... If you think Ralph handed his checkbook to Brandon, you are dreaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 russ is cheap! I liked this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I'm sure this latest development is going to cause all the top flight coaches to come knocking on the doors of OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Thanks, I always do. Nothing better than family and football. And yes, Nix is stepping down. https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora Just not today...after the draft. Unfortunately, the draft is precisely where Buddy has done the most damage to this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 The guy who controls the purse strings controls the team, no matter what this press conference suggests. Nothing changes until the team is sold. RTB ^^^^^^^^^^ 100% Correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) So you think Whaley is going to purposely tank the draft to get out of his future job as GM of the Bills? I disagree. No Nix. Keep up with the conversation. Edited January 1, 2013 by VABills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Daddy Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Unfortunately, the draft is precisely where Buddy has done the most damage to this franchise. He'll be in charge in name only.....Whaley will have final say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Unfortunately, the draft is precisely where Buddy has done the most damage to this franchise. Pretty much. Buddy has shined with keeping our own and free agency. The draft he is average at best. And that first draft was terrible Edited January 1, 2013 by DanInUticaTampa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 How do you guys get these texts? I get random ones fr the app sometimes - any help would be appreciated Thanks Don't go sue the club when you get a couple extra texts a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Russ has no money to spend and that's the problem. He is still just Wilson's yes man. But he does have keys to Ralph's car, so let's see if he can drive. I'll give him a while before I decide if he deserves his licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 If you think Ralph handed his checkbook to Brandon, you are dreaming! So this whole thing is a lie? Unfortunately, the draft is precisely where Buddy has done the most damage to this franchise. Right, guys like Spiller, Carrington, Dareus, Gilmore, Glenn, etc. are KILLING this team No Nix. Keep up with the conversation. Ah, I see, so Brandon and Whaley will just let Nix tank this draft...that makes much more sense...what's in the water today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 So it's basically a non-story story. Russ gets more control b/c Ralph is old (duh). The Nix-to-Whaley transition will happen (which we always expected). Nothing to see here. New head coach? That's news. New QB? That's news. This? Eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Russ has no money to spend and that's the problem. He is still just Wilson's yes man. But he does have keys to Ralph's car, so let's see if he can drive. I'll give him a while before I decide if he deserves his licence. Are you basing this on the $100M they gave to Mario? Or the millions they're raking in from the Toronto extension? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Russ has no money to spend and that's the problem. He is still just Wilson's yes man. But he does have keys to Ralph's car, so let's see if he can drive. I'll give him a while before I decide if he deserves his licence. His choice for the next HC will say quite a bit about whether the car is driving in the wrong direction and headed for a crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Thanks, I always do. Nothing better than family and football. And yes, Nix is stepping down. https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora Just not today...after the draft. Got it. So nothing has changed. The same football personnel department that has drafted terribly over a 3-year period will remain in charge of this franchise going forward. Doug Whaley was responsible for setting the draft board (the same draft board that indicated Russell Wilson is not worthy of a 3rd round pick). With Russ Brandon -- who is already the CEO of the franchise now charge -- things are supposed to change? What an utter joke. Whereas franchises like Jacksonville, Arizona, Cleveland and Indianapolis have cleaned house in an effort to bring in new front office talent, the Bills continue to accept abysmal performance as part of their DNA. Terrible product, but one that you undoubtedly endorse. Edited January 1, 2013 by Dawgg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 So it's basically a non-story story. Russ gets more control b/c Ralph is old (duh). The Nix-to-Whaley transition will happen (which we always expected). Nothing to see here. New head coach? That's news. New QB? That's news. This? Eh. Yup. All of this has been in progress for a few years - just announced that its at the tipping point today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) So it's basically a non-story story. Russ gets more control b/c Ralph is old (duh). The Nix-to-Whaley transition will happen (which we always expected). Nothing to see here. New head coach? That's news. New QB? That's news. This? Eh. Have to start somewhere. Coach soon and QB later on. Edited January 1, 2013 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 So this whole thing is a lie? Right, guys like Spiller, Carrington, Dareus, Gilmore, Glenn, etc. are KILLING this team Ah, I see, so Brandon and Whaley will just let Nix tank this draft...that makes much more sense...what's in the water today? They let AJ tank it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Last time that happened AJ Smith blew the draft on purpose. But, AJ Smith is a proven !@#$. I wouldn't put him and Nix in the same category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Got it. So nothing has changed. The same football personnel department that has drafted terribly over a 3-year period will remain in charge of this franchise going forward. Doug Whaley was responsible for setting the draft board (the same draft board that indicated Russell Wilson is not worthy of a 3rd round pick). With Russ Brandon -- who is already the CEO of the franchise now charge -- things are supposed to change? What an utter joke. Whereas franchises like Jacksonville, Arizona, Cleveland and Indianapolis have cleaned house in an effort to bring in new front office talent, the Bills continue to accept abysmal performance as part of their DNA. Terrible product, but one that you undoubtedly endorse. Okay then, go cry in your oatmeal... Yup. All of this has been in progress for a few years - just announced that its at the tipping point today. Tipping point...well put. They let AJ tank it. Wait, so John Butler, who was the GM at the time, allowed his assistant GM to tank the draft, which means that Nix, who's GM now, will tank the draft despite the presence of Whaley and Brandon? Got it....love that logic. How, might I ask, do you know of this devious plan? I need to get some of those sources! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Right, guys like Spiller, Carrington, Dareus, Gilmore, Glenn, etc. are KILLING this team You clearly aren't very bright -- which great for the Bills' ticket office and merchandise sales Gilmore wasn't very good this year, despite what you say. And make all the rookie excuses you want, there were at least 7-10 rookie CB's that played better than him this season. Dareus has underachieved relative to his draft status. Solid starter, hardly dominant. And most of this front office's picks have been dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellaman101 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 wait, really? If only there was a 10-page thread about this already... [just giving you a hard time] Sorry man, just posting the ESPN version.. I dont play the Twitter horse crap... I think the DW info it great news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I think it's a great development. Russ is a WNY guy who has worked hard to cement the team here by moving TC to Rochester and establishing the Toronto series. I think he'll be working behind the scenes to broker a deal with new ownership as well. Also, I think Nix is essentially done now - neutered by the firing of a coach that he said he was going to retain despite his putrid record. Whaley will have a HUGE hand in selecting the new coach and the new QB in the draft. Great day to be a Bills fan! 2013 is looking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Right, guys like Spiller, Carrington, Dareus, Gilmore, Glenn, etc. are KILLING this team Well, somebody is responsible for assembling one of the worst defenses in NFL history, on a team with no QB, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 You clearly aren't very bright -- which great for the Bills' ticket office and merchandise sales Gilmore wasn't very good this year, despite what you say. And make all the rookie excuses you want, there were at least 7-10 rookie CB's that played better than him this season. Dareus has underachieved relative to his draft status. Solid starter, hardly dominant. And most of this front office's picks have been dubious. Please do tell of these 7-10. I'm interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I was really disgusted with this at first, but the reaction of the local media guys, who are normally so negative about it, changed my mood to more optimistic. Removes the Ralph/Littman influence, age goes way down with Brandon/Whaley, I like that they don't need Ralph's approval for the new coach....big deall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 You clearly aren't very bright -- which great for the Bills' ticket office and merchandise sales Gilmore wasn't very good this year, despite what you say. And make all the rookie excuses you want, there were at least 7-10 rookie CB's that played better than him this season. Dareus has underachieved relative to his draft status. Solid starter, hardly dominant. And most of this front office's picks have been dubious. Name atleast 7-10. Seriously. I'm curious to see names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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