Wagon Circler Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Anyone else get the feeling that Russ is in charge of the team at the moment? If Nix gets fired, it'll be because Russ wanted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Since when has Russ not been in charge of the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Anyone else get the feeling that Russ is in charge of the team at the moment? If Nix gets fired, it'll be because Russ wanted it. That certainly is the feeling although Brandon is the Bills CEO so in that regard he is Buddy's boss. In a nutshell, the team has to figure out if/where Buddy fits with a new head coach. Do they know each other? Can they work together? If the long term doesn't look good is there a feasible exit strategy for Buddy? The situation is naturally complicated by the personnel department and all the scouting that's already been done to this point. It's a difficult situation but one several teams find themselves in at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 just heard on GR that's it Brandon and not Nix meeting with Ralph tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Brandon is high up the ladder but Nix was 100% in charge of football matters. So you are upset Brandon is making the decisions? Would you rather Ralph make 'em? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo1983 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Russ is the Boss and fills Ralph in.. Nix makes all the moves and Russ watches every move. If the old man doesn't like it, Russ takes of his duties for him. It's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Brandon is a big improvement over Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Brandon is a big improvement over Ralph. is that... serious? with regards to providing a winning product.... he hasnt proven to have any success. at all. even remotely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Since when has Russ not been in charge of the team? Any coincidence that the Bills franchise has declined since Russ Brandon became a major player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Anyone else get the feeling that Russ is in charge of the team at the moment? If Nix gets fired, it'll be because Russ wanted it. True. Russ is in charge for Ralph. Brandon is a big improvement over Ralph. The record does not support this. Since Brandon has been around and in key postions the Bills are in their longest playoff drought in team history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Any coincidence that the Bills franchise has declined since Russ Brandon became a major player? That is a major oversimplification. Too many contributing factors to count. On the business side, he's the best thing that ever happened to the franchise. And you might say you don't care about that, but you have to if you want the Bills to stay in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 That is a major oversimplification. Too many contributing factors to count. On the business side, he's the best thing that ever happened to the franchise. And you might say you don't care about that, but you have to if you want the Bills to stay in town. First thing I'd do is fire Brandon and announce when you build a winning culture marketing will take care of itself, and that has NOT been happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Personally I don't see any dilema for OBD. Brandon is in tune as well as any fan is, so are others in the FO. Look at Nix's 3+ drafts. They don't look so good other than the obvious precious few players. He needs one safety at least. Several linebackers, a wide receiver, his depth is maybe average at best. Those depth players were drafted as eventual starters too. Some of them hopefully won't be in Buffalo next season. The Merriman payout to ROI was bad. Cornell green? Really? On and on. Can he be ready and trusted for the task of hiring a complete coaching staff, plus get a true starting quarterback, and filling all those holes, plus the new ones. Cut bait and run, should be the thinking this week on Buddy Nix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Any coincidence that the Bills franchise has declined since Russ Brandon became a major player? Brandon's tenure began in '98 after he worked for the (World Series champion) Florida Marlins previously. I'm not a big fan of Mr. Smithers, but he's not the main issue at OBD. The "coincidence" is the personnel department never maintained the level of production coming off the Butler era and the GM did not identify good HC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 First thing I'd do is fire Brandon and announce when you build a winning culture marketing will take care of itself, and that has NOT been happening! Yep. Brandon was involved in football decisions once, anybody remember that disaster? Brandon is part of the losing culture, and gets more credit than deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Yep. Brandon was involved in football decisions once, anybody remember that disaster? Brandon is part of the losing culture, and gets more credit than deserved. Yeah it's a disater no one cares to admit. His input from the business side is WAY OVERRATED. Get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Reading Buddy's reaction to Chan's firing it seems obvious he is NOT in charge of football matters. Buddy made it sound like it was someone elses decision. I'm not a fan of Brandon. How did he get to where he is? Does he have incriminating evidense on Mr WIlson? He's a marketing guy full of gimmicks (ala T.O.) and smoke and mirrors. His MO is to dupe the fan base. Dick Jauron? Chan Gailey? Really? Did any of you think these guys were going to being us to the big dance? Let's see who they present us with .... this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Yeah it's a disater no one cares to admit. His input from the business side is WAY OVERRATED. Get rid of him. Hey Joe. How're you liking that new lease? Reading Buddy's reaction to Chan's firing it seems obvious he is NOT in charge of football matters. Buddy made it sound like it was someone elses decision. Buddy's reaction to Chan's firing? Where did you see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 This is how ridiculous we've become. Why don't we fire the secretaries and janitors too. They are part of the "losing culture" too. Anything to satisfy our blood lust. Heads must roll. Any will do. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Anyone else get the feeling that Russ is in charge of the team at the moment? If Nix gets fired, it'll be because Russ wanted it. The CEO in charge? That doesnt sound like a good business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Any coincidence that the Bills franchise has declined since Russ Brandon became a major player? Ive said it before this decision for Ralph is do I want to build a team (Nix) or reward my dollar bill Boy (Brandon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 The usual suspects are always at the epicenter of the Bills personnel woes. If they chose another bogus GM/HC combination I am going to take a recess from contributing even one red cent to the NFL in any way shape or form for a while. It seems that when I wear these autographed Roddy Piper shades and look at Russ Brandon I see a money sucking leach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Any coincidence that the Bills franchise has declined since Russ Brandon became a major player? Exactly, when did Russ become a major player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Hey Joe. How're you liking that new lease? Buddy's reaction to Chan's firing? Where did you see that? My bad! It was a quote from Buddy Nix mid Season ... Nix expressed his distaste for the Bills’ revolving door at the head-coach’s office at midseason. “The age-old thing – and they’ve done it around here for years – is to start over about every three years,” Nix said. “What that does is make damn sure you don’t make it. ... You change every three years and you never quite get there. That’s my take.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 My bad! It was a quote from Buddy Nix mid Season ... Nix expressed his distaste for the Bills’ revolving door at the head-coach’s office at midseason. “The age-old thing – and they’ve done it around here for years – is to start over about every three years,” Nix said. “What that does is make damn sure you don’t make it. ... You change every three years and you never quite get there. That’s my take.” Well you sure as hell don't "quite get there" by starting 16-32...That's for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 This is how ridiculous we've become. Why don't we fire the secretaries and janitors too. They are part of the "losing culture" too. Anything to satisfy our blood lust. Heads must roll. Any will do. PTR Are you suggesting that Russ Brandon has as much impact on winning and losing as the janitor? Come on man. He's the CEO of the damn team. While he doesn't have the same degree of impact as a coach or GM, he certainly needs to be held accountable when the team loses. I think Smithers wants the best for the team but is he the best man for the job? With no playoffs since 1999 everything should be on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 My bad! It was a quote from Buddy Nix mid Season ... Nix expressed his distaste for the Bills’ revolving door at the head-coach’s office at midseason. “The age-old thing – and they’ve done it around here for years – is to start over about every three years,” Nix said. “What that does is make damn sure you don’t make it. ... You change every three years and you never quite get there. That’s my take.” Oh good. I thought I missed a public statement by Nix today. So as far as we know he hasn't met with the media yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 I believe that anyone who thinks that Russ Brandon ever had any say on football matters prior to the last few weeks is sorely mistaken. What,do you think, Marv Levy turned to Nix on draft day and asked his opinion on who to draft? Do you think Buddy Nix asked him how he felt about Chan Gailey? These guys ran the football side and he ran the business. Now with Ralph at 94, Russ has had enough of the losing and is asserting himself which is absolutely nescessary as Ralph has run the football end into the ground. We'll see how much control Ralph has given him if Nix is fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I believe that anyone who thinks that Russ Brandon ever had any say on football matters prior to the last few weeks is sorely mistaken. What,do you think, Marv Levy turned to Nix on draft day and asked his opinion on who to draft? Do you think Buddy Nix asked him how he felt about Chan Gailey? These guys ran the football side and he ran the business. Now with Ralph at 94, Russ has had enough of the losing and is asserting himself which is absolutely nescessary as Ralph has run the football end into the ground. We'll see how much control Ralph has given him if Nix is fired. Really, what scares me, and has even before Brandon with Ralph too is "quick, make a decision to sell tickets THIS YEAR" and not "let's build a champion" but that could be said about any team. If the decision today was based in "boy did you see those empty seats" instead of dissecting his play calls - then ill be disappointed even if I may agree with the end result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 We know what happened last time Russ Brandon tried to get in the football decision business. It was just as bad (or worse) that what we have now. Remember when he went "scouting"? Yeah, that was awesome, wasn't it? I'm concerned again that we have a marketing guy making football decisions again, and we're going to spin our wheels again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmjoyce113 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 What's the difference between him and an owner doing it? If he promotes Whaley he will make the decision. Also Brandon is way more connected than us yet we all have the obvious answers. I don't think it's as simple as he's a marketing guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveinElma Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Russ Brandon probably would have selected Rob Gronkowski. Maybe he needs more say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 @buffalobills #Bills SVP/Comm. S. Berchtold: “Press Conference from OBD at Noon today. Media be advised.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Just got the text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Dear Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Guessing Buddy is a goner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Got the text as well... Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Nix gone? Whaley Promoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Nix gone? Whaley Promoted? I don't think they'll fire Nix, but he may move aside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Nix gone? Whaley Promoted? Yep, or at least I hope so. 2013 is looking better already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Hope it's related to this: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/01/mort-keep-an-eye-on-jon-gruden-as-a-coaching-candidate/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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