cantankerous Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 How many teams in the NFL won't even attempt a 50 yard field goal? It seems Lindell doesn't have the leg for it anymore. I know he's 13/14 on the season but if he can't even kick a 50 yarder anymore...yikes. There are several kickers in the league that have 60 yard field goal range. It sucks that Lindell can't even kick us a 50 yarder when we need it. He can't even make it into the end zone on kickoffs either...I hope the Bills address this at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Which one is his weak leg btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Maybe we need a kickoff specialist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 How many teams in the NFL won't even attempt a 50 yard field goal? It seems Lindell doesn't have the leg for it anymore. I know he's 13/14 on the season but if he can't even kick a 50 yarder anymore...yikes. There are several kickers in the league that have 60 yard field goal range. It sucks that Lindell can't even kick us a 50 yarder when we need it. He can't even make it into the end zone on kickoffs either...I hope the Bills address this at some point. When the D is playing well, you don't chance giving them the ball on the 40. You drop it in the 20 and trust your D. Please don't bring up kickoffs... that experiment is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 who said he can't kick a 50+ yard FG? Just because he hasn't had the opportunity to kick one this year, doesn't mean he can't do it. I would be stunned if he doesn't still have the leg for a 53-yarder, which is all one can reasonably expect out of an NFL kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 He kicked four field goals (32, 34, 41 and 19 yards) and the Bills beat the Dolphins. Are we blaming Lindell because there was a kickoff run back for a TD? His kickoffs against Miami were to the 0, -3, 4, -1 and 10 yard lines (the one kicked to the 4 was run back). Other than the run back, the Miami starting positions were between the 20 and 30 yard lines. That seems pretty typical. We all know that Lindell is getting a little older and will be replaced soon, but I don't get the weak leg talk at this point in the season. Carpenter missed a 50 yard FG. I guess he has a weak leg also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I am more then happy with Lindell. Good for at least one more season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 who said he can't kick a 50+ yard FG? Just because he hasn't had the opportunity to kick one this year, doesn't mean he can't do it. I would be stunned if he doesn't still have the leg for a 53-yarder, which is all one can reasonably expect out of an NFL kicker. The worry is we've had plenty of shots and opted to pass. Or staff also carried the KOS for an extended period. It seems those that see him daily are worried about leg strength. I like that he's money inside 40 or so but it'd be nice to have 10 yards more leg. Can't have pro bowlers at every position though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I'm content with Lindell because of his sure-footed accuracy on all kicks within his (limited) range, assuming that no one with a bigger leg and comparable accuracy becomes available. It is a position we need to examine during the off-season, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I'm content with Lindell because of his sure-footed accuracy on all kicks within his (limited) range, assuming that no one with a bigger leg and comparable accuracy becomes available. It is a position we need to examine during the off-season, however. Yeah. He might not be the best we can do, but he is the best we can do RIGHT NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Yeah. He might not be the best we can do, but he is the best we can do RIGHT NOW. Every thread we talk about a player we get into these answers (choice also today) - is anyone actually advocating change right now? I'm always referencing at the end of the season you look at options when I chime in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 The guy is pretty money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 The worry is we've had plenty of shots and opted to pass. Or staff also carried the KOS for an extended period. It seems those that see him daily are worried about leg strength. I like that he's money inside 40 or so but it'd be nice to have 10 yards more leg. Can't have pro bowlers at every position though. i recall only one time this year when we passed on a long FG, and that was in OT against Arizona, and that had more to do with the fact that a miss would have given the cards outcome-determinative field position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) i recall only one time this year when we passed on a long FG, and that was in OT against Arizona, and that had more to do with the fact that a miss would have given the cards outcome-determinative field position. From the 36 just two days ago. That's a 53 yarder that comes to mind His long is 42- you think weve made it this far without drives stopping between 42 and say the low 50s? We punt there. Edited November 18, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 "outcome-determinative field position" I'm gonna have to take this from you. Please hand it over without a fight. We don't want anyone getting hurt. Sir, put down the phrase please and step back… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) who said he can't kick a 50+ yard FG? Just because he hasn't had the opportunity to kick one this year, doesn't mean he can't do it. I would be stunned if he doesn't still have the leg for a 53-yarder, which is all one can reasonably expect out of an NFL kicker. exactly how many 50 yarders have we passed up ? He can make long kicks and he's good in the clutch. He's just not very good on kick offs they aren't short but they aren't booming high kicks or deep inthe endzone despite moving the kick up we are one of the few teams who do not get touchbacks Edited November 18, 2012 by CardinalScotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) exactly how many 50 yarders have we passed up ? He can make long kicks and he's good in the clutch. He's just not very good on kick offs they aren't short but they aren't booming high kicks or deep inthe endzone despite moving the kick up we are one of the few teams who do not get touchbacks In this thread alone 2 have been passed on including a potential game winner within the last month or so. I like that he's reliable at what he does, but one day that range will bite us. Our coach and gm see the issue, just not an easy upgrade. Edited November 18, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roc Bronson Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Which one is his weak leg btw? LMAO. Only SJB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 who said he can't kick a 50+ yard FG? Chan Gailey? Bills fans should know; having a kicker with limited range but is money from inside 40 is just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I wouldn't say weak. Not a cannon leg but he's accurate. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 He hits the net from 50 in warm ups all the time. Its Chan's head thats weak, not lindells leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I'm gonna have to take this from you. Please hand it over without a fight. We don't want anyone getting hurt. Sir, put down the phrase please and step back… haha--it's all yours. I still, however, have my patent pending on the term "chroise." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I have absolutely no problem with Lindell. I actually prefer to kick it high to one corner and invite the opponent to return it. The average opposing starting field position last season was inside the 25 yd line so what's the difference? Yes, you may get one taken back on you but you may also force a turnover. With the extra 5 yards on the kickoff the Bills made a lot of stops inside the 20. And he's is a solid FG kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 we passed on a 50 yarder to win ? In what game ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I have absolutely no problem with Lindell. I actually prefer to kick it high to one corner and invite the opponent to return it. The average opposing starting field position last season was inside the 25 yd line so what's the difference? Yes, you may get one taken back on you but you may also force a turnover. With the extra 5 yards on the kickoff the Bills made a lot of stops inside the 20. And he's is a solid FG kicker. Agreed, I don't watch stats on kickers but for the most part 40 yards and in the guy is money. Who cares if he's not knocking it through the end zone on kickoffs? I always thought that good special teams typically neutralize a run back threat. The now cut specialist was a huge waste of a roster spot. Gailey sucks as a HC and a roster manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoto Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Ryan Lindell is not the problem with this Team, in fact I BILLIEVE we should have more opportunies. Fix the Defense. Fix the QB, Blitz more than once a game. Get some stud linebackers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy in 4C Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Lindell's leg cost us a touchdown on the KR. The ball landed around the 10 freakin yardline with no wind. The dolphins returner had a running start and we had no chance. I'm suprised nobody has really brought this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsevans Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I have loved Rian Lindell and how reliable he has been for many years here in Buffalo. I think it is obvious that it's time to move on here as well, as the coaching staff is hesitant to attempt anything from 47 or longer. You just can't handicap yourself like that, and leave possible points on the board. The one name we should be going after right now is Nate Kaeding. He has a big leg, and when released a few weeks ago was the most accurate kicker in Chargers history. The move seems logical as Buddy likes getting his Chargers guys an opportunity here in Buffalo. I wanted the Bills to draft Blair Walsh last season, and he seems to be lighting it up from deep as well. Thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 They ever give a reason why they didnt attempt that FG in indy? I was stunned when the punter come on! I like the points you make! Why was Keading let go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 It's been stated by Bulldog and Murphy that Lindell consistantly hits from over 50 in the stadium at warmups. Lindell has never had a HUGE leg but 50 yarders are doable even for him. They looked up the stats and showed that the percentage of 50+ yard field goals is over something like 60% for the season. It's not Lindell. It's Chan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I dont get it then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 15 of 16 on the season. It's time for him to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Man Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Lindell is the least of the Bills' worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 It's been stated by Bulldog and Murphy that Lindell consistantly hits from over 50 in the stadium at warmups. Lindell has never had a HUGE leg but 50 yarders are doable even for him. They looked up the stats and showed that the percentage of 50+ yard field goals is over something like 60% for the season. It's not Lindell. It's Chan. its a strange situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Lindell was hitting from that distance in pre-game warmups. There is no reason to think he can't make it from that distance. Chan, like Jauron, has no balls. Contrast that to Bill O' Brien, who went for it on a 4th and 6 vs. Wisconsin and ended up with a TD. You need to take caculated risks. Either go for it or kick a FG, but don't punt it. WEAk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 They ever give a reason why they didnt attempt that FG in indy? I was stunned when the punter come on! I like the points you make! Why was Keading let go? yea Failey said "i liked the way our defense was playing and I wanted to pin them deep" - dumbass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 It's not fair to blame Lindell for not making kicks Chan wouldn't let him attempt. I seem to remember him hitting a lot of 50+ yard kicks in his career before Chan. His career pct for 50+ yarders is 54% (18 of 33), Kaeding is 59% (10 of 17). I say, let's move Chan at head coach first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 I don't even think Lindell is to blame. I think Gailey is a retard. Lindell can kick 50 yarders. I thought maybe something was wrong with Rian, but I'm pretty sure it's Gailey that has something wrong with him. Once again we passed up on another makeable field goal last week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 He is the one bright spot on this team give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) He hits the net from 50 in warm ups all the time. Its Chan's head thats weak, not lindells leg. Yeah...I gotta confess, the last few seasons are just a blur...but during the Colts game, the announcer seemed to be going on and on about Lindells' weak leg...and I am like "WTF? Lindell has an unusually weak leg? What did I miss?" I really think Chan is just too clever for our own good sometimes...but then I doubt my memory sometimes, as of late...glad I am not the only one surprised by this. Edited November 28, 2012 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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