smuvtalker Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Forgive me for not providing the link, but on ESPN.com's main page they posted that he will miss his 2nd straight preseason game... I know it's only preseason, and I seriously doubt that it's too much of a concern, being as though nooone can question T.O.'s work ethic, but don't you all think that the preseason, live action is necessary for him to continue to develop a chemistry with Edwards? Could it be something more serious than they are letting us know? I sure hope not. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Forgive me for not providing the link, but on ESPN.com's main page they posted that he will miss his 2nd straight preseason game... I know it's only preseason, and I seriously doubt that it's too much of a concern, being as though nooone can question T.O.'s work ethic, but don't you all think that the preseason, live action is necessary for him to continue to develop a chemistry with Edwards? Could it be something more serious than they are letting us know? I sure hope not. Thoughts? I'm trying to stay positive but I'm getting worried. If it's turf toe he may be out for a while, not play effectively, or need surgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 If I had it my way, he wouldn't play any more preseason games. We know that TO is going to be the most prepared player on this team. Let's make sure he doesn't rush to play in meaningless games when he could just rest up and be 100% for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 If that toe is even remotely sore he shouldn't be taking any snaps that don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 ^^^^ what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 We know what TO can do, he can still separate from DBs . I would not play him until the season opener if I were the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 TO is in great shape but man the turf toe is one of those lingering injuries. It rarely just goes away. Luckily it's almost a month until the season starts. Regrettably, he has little chemistry with Trent yet so these weeks off are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I'm trying to stay positive but I'm getting worried. If it's turf toe he may be out for a while, not play effectively, or need surgery Turf toe is a real b!tch. We all know that T.O. is an exceptional athlete and has a great work ethic, but he's also 35, It's not surprising that this would happen. If it is turf toe, I say let him sit out the rest of these meaningless games. His 2 catches in the HOF game was good enough for me to see that he will be a big impact for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Not implying that the injury isn't serious, or that he is faking it, but TO missed plenty of training camp time while he was in Dallas. The Bills are being smart to take every precaution with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kettle Creek Football Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Not implying that the injury isn't serious, or that he is faking it, but TO missed plenty of training camp time while he was in Dallas. The Bills are being smart to take every precaution with him. Again, as I said before on another post, I think this is more of a "Bruce Smith" type of training camp injury. I wouldn't worry about it. Also, I'm sure he won't play in the last preseason game, regarding the excuse. He's saving his energy and health for the showdown vs. Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 One guy I absolutely know is going to be on the roster on September 14th is Terrell Owens. Much like Kelly, Smith, et al back in the days of 'Camp Marv', no sense in wearing this guy out in the pre-season, or aggravating a minor injury so that it becomes a nagging, season-long hindrance to his route-running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 One guy I absolutely know is going to be on the roster on September 14th is Terrell Owens. Much like Kelly, Smith, et al back in the days of 'Camp Marv', no sense in wearing this guy out n the pre-season, or aggravating a minor injury so that it becomes a nagging, season-long hindrance to his route-running. agreed. I say get out the exercise bike now. Let him rest it until the showdown w/ NE*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Great points all of you. I too agree that he really doesn't need to show what he can do. I guess my only concern was him developing a chemistry with Edwards. But there's no doubt his work ethic is 2nd to none. I wouldn't be surprised to see him sit the rest of the preseason. I do remember Bruce barely playing in the preseason.... But i definitely would be concerned if it's really turf toe. Hopefully that's not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamRoller67 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4409455 I'll start to worry around September 3rd if he can't play a series or two in the Lions game. The guy can roll out of his silk sheets at 3 a.m. and go for 7 catches, 100 plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Not implying that the injury isn't serious, or that he is faking it, but TO missed plenty of training camp time while he was in Dallas. The Bills are being smart to take every precaution with him. Yup, regarding his toe. His self-promotion aside, the snits - TO is a smart cookie with a great sense of the game, great situational awareness. He does have that ego, which we worry about if the season starts to go sour. That's the big unknown... But I don't worry about him not being on the same page with any QB, despite missing camp and ps time He's one of a handful that sees the whole situation down-by-down - better than many quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 What is turftoe and how is it treated: http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/toeproblem...eproblems_5.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Turf toe is a real b!tch. We all know that T.O. is an exceptional athlete and has a great work ethic, but he's also 35, It's not surprising that this would happen. If it is turf toe, I say let him sit out the rest of these meaningless games. His 2 catches in the HOF game was good enough for me to see that he will be a big impact for the Bills. See him in his show and you know he is a proffesional as far as keeping in shape is concerned. I just hope missing pre season games doesn't slow his gelling with the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Oh my God, This is going to keep me up all night! I blame it on Russ Brandon...... You need WR's with stronger toes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 i think this kind of thing can become "turf toe" if you don't give it the rest and recovery it needs. Geez, we have 3 more preseason games. This preseason is LONG. This I think we know about T.O., he'll do whatever he can to make sure he's playing come the regular season. Even if that means weeks in his hyperbaric chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 If that toe is even remotely sore he shouldn't be taking any snaps that don't count. ^^^^ what he said. ditto...we don't need him making it worse and then jeopardizing his availability for the season opener against the Cheatriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 TO is in great shape but man the turf toe is one of those lingering injuries. It rarely just goes away. Luckily it's almost a month until the season starts. Regrettably, he has little chemistry with Trent yet so these weeks off are terrible. You mean because the two passes we saw between them were both right on the money in stride for first downs on the only drive they played together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 You mean because the two passes we saw between them were both right on the money in stride for first downs on the only drive they played together? Are you kidding? 2 passes and I'm supposed to feel confident that they don't need all the practice they can get together? This isn't Marino-Duper, Kelly-Reed, Manning-Harrison, or Aikman-Irvin. These two have played zero games together and not playing together for 3 weeks before the season starts won't help. Don't get me wrong: TO is so talented that it won't kill them--but they need to be really good. This is not a very good team. They need all the edge they can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 As long as he goes to practices to listen and watch film not out doing media stunts instead I do not have an issue. If he complains about his toe and uses as reason not be in practice you know it is all about him not his toe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Concerned? No. But feel free to freak if it makes you feel better. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I'm sure TO let the Bills know soon after arriving in camp (if not sooner) that he would not be playing much in the preseason. If the season started this Sunday, he would be playing with no evidence of injury. The "turf toe" or whatever the Bills want to call it is a cover to keep the more neurotic fans from freaking out at this arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Not worried. In a rare slip of real news, Jauron let it be known T.O. will return to practice next week. That likely wouldn't happen with 'turf toe'. He said it's (toe) sprained. I don't care if he doesn't play another pre-season game. That's not why we got him. FWIW, the play he got hurt on -his first catch I believe, the Titan/Oiler defender was WAY too aggressive coming in late and trying to smear Owens all over the field. Pretty sure that's where the injury happened. Keep that guys # in the back of you heads for the regular season re-match.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Not worried. In a rare slip of real news, Jauron let it be known T.O. will return to practice next week. That likely wouldn't happen with 'turf toe'. He said it's (toe) sprained. I don't care if he doesn't play another pre-season game. That's not why we got him. FWIW, the play he got hurt on -his first catch I believe, the Titan/Oiler defender was WAY too aggressive coming in late and trying to smear Owens all over the field. Pretty sure that's where the injury happened. Keep that guys # in the back of you heads for the regular season re-match.. That was Finnegan. No doubt TO will seeing much more of him Nov. 15. Maybe TO should wear a red pinny when he plays his next preseason game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Are you kidding? 2 passes and I'm supposed to feel confident that they don't need all the practice they can get together? This isn't Marino-Duper, Kelly-Reed, Manning-Harrison, or Aikman-Irvin. These two have played zero games together and not playing together for 3 weeks before the season starts won't help. Don't get me wrong: TO is so talented that it won't kill them--but they need to be really good. This is not a very good team. They need all the edge they can get. I'm not completely discounting your statement, but these two (TE-TO) did work together all through the voluntary OTAs, spent extra sessions working on timing and routes, and then again in training camp until the toe injury. I don't think the "chemistry" issue is something to be worried about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billfan63 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 But I don't worry about him not being on the same page with any QB Thanks for the laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I don't care if he plays any more preseason games. We know what he is capable of and I am certain he will be ready for when it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Are you kidding? 2 passes and I'm supposed to feel confident that they don't need all the practice they can get together? This isn't Marino-Duper, Kelly-Reed, Manning-Harrison, or Aikman-Irvin. These two have played zero games together and not playing together for 3 weeks before the season starts won't help. Don't get me wrong: TO is so talented that it won't kill them--but they need to be really good. This is not a very good team. They need all the edge they can get. Do you think those were the only 2 times that Edwards has thrown to Owens all spring and summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimo Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 We should just remove it and make sure there is no future problems. I'm sorry was the question about a toe or TO? Forgive me for not providing the link, but on ESPN.com's main page they posted that he will miss his 2nd straight preseason game... I know it's only preseason, and I seriously doubt that it's too much of a concern, being as though nooone can question T.O.'s work ethic, but don't you all think that the preseason, live action is necessary for him to continue to develop a chemistry with Edwards? Could it be something more serious than they are letting us know? I sure hope not. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharper802 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 With our FO the next move will likely be placing him on season ending IR even though he will be ready to play week 1. Turf toe sucks. This is bad. Probably much worse than they are letting on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 T.O. hs seen enough to know he jumped the gun signing to quickly with the Bills. He is in T.O. preservation mode and will play 1/2 heartedly this year, then focus his energies on T.V. or whatever else his celebrity will bring him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 T.O. hs seen enough to know he jumped the gun signing to quickly with the Bills. He is in T.O. preservation mode and will play 1/2 heartedly this year, then focus his energies on T.V. or whatever else his celebrity will bring him. i don't think he's ever in his career played halfheartedly. Can you name a single instance of him doing this over his 13 year career? He is no Randy Moss. His issues have nothing to do with effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Thanks for the laugh Me too. That was unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Forgive me for not providing the link, but on ESPN.com's main page they posted that he will miss his 2nd straight preseason game... I know it's only preseason, and I seriously doubt that it's too much of a concern, being as though nooone can question T.O.'s work ethic, but don't you all think that the preseason, live action is necessary for him to continue to develop a chemistry with Edwards? Could it be something more serious than they are letting us know? I sure hope not. Thoughts? Not worried in the least we need to find who the other receivers are going to be the rest of the preseason maybe give TO one drive the next to last pre season game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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