Heitz Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-8-44/...Tinoisomoa.html "The Buffalo Bills are bringing in linebacker Pisa Tinoisamoa for an interview Wednesday, and a source familiar with the trip believes the tackling machine is particularly excited about the opportunity." Thanks Timmy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Cue the Big Voice guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 This is great news. He would be a great addition to the LB corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 This is great news. He would be a great addition to the LB corps. Yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Sign him! Man if we signed him and levi (levi-for depth at the very least) I would be VERY pleased with this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Yea AWESOME news... from scouts in on Piso: Grade: 66 | Key Alert: None Comment: He plays with very good lateral quickness and can change directions quickly. He has speed to the sideline with burst to close. He lacks overall strength to play stout, but can be aggressive on entry into blocks. He will stay stuck too long at times and lose ground working to escape. He still enters into some lead block contact with his shoulder first. He has good balance, but will get bounced. He is quick enough to sidestep or elude contact on his path to the ball. He has range and can close quickly from the backside to make plays. He usually provides good wrap on tackles and has some pop to him when he squares up. In coverage, he has good awareness. He'll stay on the field when the Rams go to nickel personnel. He is aggressive with his reads and will bite occasionally on play-action. He moves well in space, changes direction quickly and can recover from false steps. His overall reactions are adequate. He can close quickly after making reads. He is a productive player with good speed and range, when healthy. from scouts inc on Ellison: Grade: 57 | Key Alert: None Comment: Ellison is an undersized athletic linebacker who is coming off his second season in the league. He is a backup who is used in sub packages and to give depth to a young linebacking corps. He is most productive when covered up and able to run free. He has good straight-line speed and shows effective range sideline to sideline. He can get engulfed when engaging lineman and is best when slipping blockers to get to the pile. He can play out of control at times and needs to come to balance better in space. He has improved his coverage techniques from his rookie season, but needs to read route progressions better in combination man and zone schemes. Ellison is a finesse player who can contribute when used in long-yardage situations and on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 They've brought in several players who weren't signed. Keiaho, Winborn, and others. The knock on PT is he's not suited to play SAM, which is what Buffalo needs from a LB. Keiaho said Buffalo reverses the LB duties as opposed to a traditional T2, but it's anyone's guess how another sub 230 pound LB fits in today's NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 The last STL LB we signed who led that team in tackles and was "undersized" didn't pan out too badly for us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 They've brought in several players who weren't signed. Keiaho, Winborn, and others. The knock on PT is he's not suited to play SAM, which is what Buffalo needs from a LB. Keiaho said Buffalo reverses the LB duties as opposed to a traditional T2, but it's anyone's guess how another sub 230 pound LB fits in today's NFL. PT is 240#. I'd love this signing. Now if they could just get another stud DT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-8-44/...Tinoisomoa.html "The Buffalo Bills are bringing in linebacker Pisa Tinoisamoa for an interview Wednesday, and a source familiar with the trip believes the tackling machine is particularly excited about the opportunity." Thanks Timmy... He looks like a really good match for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Personally, I hope we sign him just so a bunch of people on this board will shut up already. I'm not thinking of anyone specifically, although I'm hoping Skooby will find a ding in here somewhere :-), but I never really thought that LB was a huge need for us. Sure, there was always the option for an upgrade, but the Tampa 2 usually runs with two LB's on the field, not 3 and I'm fine with Poz and Mitchell. Plus, in a perfect DJ world, we would use an extra safety on the field rather than another LB. Also, we drafted a guy who looks to be a good prospect in addition to Elimmian. Either way, whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-8-44/...Tinoisomoa.html "The Buffalo Bills are bringing in linebacker Pisa Tinoisamoa for an interview Wednesday, and a source familiar with the trip believes the tackling machine is particularly excited about the opportunity." Thanks Timmy... excellent.. we needed a leanebacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 PT was 231# at the combine. I think that slimming-down to 220# was probably at the request of the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 The best part is--he already Billieves!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d78Ih0pzMaM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Any idea who "doggyy2080" is? This is what he has to say in the comments section: Bills D Coordinator coached this kid and most likely had a say in drafting him. Don't be surprised if he plays for Buffalo next year. I'm assuming he's referring to when Fewell was the "secondary" coach with The Rams. Interesting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastly23 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Pisa is a great lb in the league. He was a prized recruit for June Jones in college. Jones noted he was one of his best LBs hes ever coached. He had off field problems coming out of HS but hasnt had any since. He was a five star athlete in HS and was awesome in college. Defensive captain for the Rams and led team in tackles. Proven. By the way, one of the nicest people ive ever met off the field. Please Buffalo sign him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I like the fact that the bills are looking to bring this guy in. My only hope is that this is not a jocking for position move by Pisa. I hope he is not trying to up his value to another team by using Buffalo's interest in him. While he would not be the last piece he would be a nice acquisition that would make this defense deeper and more complete. I put the Bills needs on defense as DT, LB, and a backup DE for Schoble. Pisa fills one of those needs and there is nothing else available at the bills price to fill the other two needs so I think they should go after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I like the fact that the bills are looking to bring this guy in. My only hope is that this is not a jocking for position move by Pisa. I hope he is not trying to up his value to another team by using Buffalo's interest in him. While he would not be the last piece he would be a nice acquisition that would make this defense deeper and more complete. I put the Bills needs on defense as DT, LB, and a backup DE for Schoble. Pisa fills one of those needs and there is nothing else available at the bills price to fill the other two needs so I think they should go after him. BF'89--you really think we need another DE? Denney can flip, Spencer Johnson can play both, Ellis and Maybin all can back up Schobel.... I agree on the DT by the way--but I am willing to give McCargo a chance with new Coaching and attention from Bob Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 i like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 is this another situational player move?..I don't know much about Pisa and from what some of you have said, he is a slb and not a wlb..could they be trying to put 2 slb on the field on running defense and then throwing a s/lb tweener like Harris for pass defense?...we don't have any DT's capable of Buffalo switching from 4-3 to 3-4 do they?..maybe on certain plays seeing a 3-4 with Mitchell - Harris - Poz - Pisa? run defense = Mitchell - Poz - Pisa pass defense = Mitchell -Poz - Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Nothing against Keith Ellison, I like the kid, but I'd rather not see him start at LB for the Bills next season. So, this move would definitely work for me. Better than rolling the dice and thinking Nic Harris can make an impact as a rookie, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 This type of move would probably put us in the top 10 D's of the league, top 7 if Maybin gets Brady out of the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Out of curiosity, how does Pisa rank compared to Crowell, Keiaho, and June? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Out of curiosity, how does Pisa rank compared to Crowell, Keiaho, and June? better than keiaho and June, probably better than Crowell coming off the injury. Crowell was more of a run stuffer. Pisa is fast and athletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 They've brought in several players who weren't signed. Keiaho, Winborn, and others. The knock on PT is he's not suited to play SAM, which is what Buffalo needs from a LB. Keiaho said Buffalo reverses the LB duties as opposed to a traditional T2, but it's anyone's guess how another sub 230 pound LB fits in today's NFL. As another poster pointed out, he is listed as 6'1", 240lbs. http://www.nfl.com/players/pisatinoisamoa/...le?id=TIN225467 That is more than big enough for an OLB. And given PT's size, age, last year's production, and familiarity with the defense, he is far and away the best OLB out there. This would be great signing, especially this late in the off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Nothing against Keith Ellison, I like the kid, but I'd rather not see him start at LB for the Bills next season. So, this move would definitely work for me. Better than rolling the dice and thinking Nic Harris can make an impact as a rookie, too. I don't think anyone would disagree that Ellison shouldn't be starting. It would be great to have Ellison as a ST demon and backup LB who has starting NFL experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 better than keiaho and June, probably better than Crowell coming off the injury. Crowell was more of a run stuffer. Pisa is fast and athletic. I think the notation of Crowell being a run stuffer is pretty overrated. Honestly if I had the choice of anyone of those LBs, I'd choose PT in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh1985 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 the front office will let him leave with out a contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 the front office will let him leave with out a contract What are you basing this on? The Bills not signing over the hill, released vets that they didn't want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 As another poster pointed out, he is listed as 6'1", 240lbs. http://www.nfl.com/players/pisatinoisamoa/...le?id=TIN225467 That is more than big enough for an OLB. And given PT's size, age, last year's production, and familiarity with the defense, he is far and away the best OLB out there. This would be great signing, especially this late in the off-season. In fairness, it was also pointed out in Tim's article he played at 220. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 In fairness, it was also pointed out in Tim's article he played at 220. Ah, point taken. It's would be interesting to see what he is closer to. Either way, IMO, I'd take him at 220 lbs and be very happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 NFL.com has him listed as 6'1" 240 lbs...that would make him the biggest LB on the team..only by a few pounds tho...but he would be the only Lb in the 240's...my last post I wrote that maybe he plays only on run defense, but I can see him playing all downs... I can see the LB core as: Mitchell, Poz, Tinoisamoa, Harris, Thomas, Bowen, Costanzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 NFL.com has him listed as 6'1" 240 lbs...that would make him the biggest LB on the team..only by a few pounds tho...but he would be the only Lb in the 240's...my last post I wrote that maybe he plays only on run defense, but I can see him playing all downs... I can see the LB core as: Mitchell, Poz, Tinoisamoa, Harris, Thomas, Bowen, Costanzo I'd be shocked to see DiGi or Ellsion get cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 NFL.com has him listed as 6'1" 240 lbs...that would make him the biggest LB on the team..only by a few pounds tho...but he would be the only Lb in the 240's...my last post I wrote that maybe he plays only on run defense, but I can see him playing all downs... I can see the LB core as: Mitchell, Poz, Tinoisamoa, Harris, Thomas, Bowen, Costanzo One of the beat reporters for the Rams said Pisa played last year at 220. It's hard to say what his ideal weight would be. He sure doesn't look 240. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddoublee Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 is this another classic case of everyone just wanting the bills to sign someone to sign someone? yes it is. nobody is concerned why the leading tackler for one of the worst teams in football is being cut? i am sure he is not a bad player, but he is not a difference maker-or this would be news somewhere other than the afc east blog on espn.com. 2 lbs in DJ's D typically. lets bring in levi for a physical and see what kind of shape he is before the bills throw money out there to make it look like they are doing something for the fans. OT and DT are FAR bigger needs than olb for this team. sorry about being a debbie downer here, the situation sounds fishy. besides...raise your hand if you have seen(or heard of) this guy play-somewhere other than on youtube? ...silence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 BF'89--you really think we need another DE? Denney can flip, Spencer Johnson can play both, Ellis and Maybin all can back up Schobel.... I agree on the DT by the way--but I am willing to give McCargo a chance with new Coaching and attention from Bob Sanders. Yeah Schobel is an injury risk and are you confident that if he goes down we will have a good pass rush. Maybin can't anchor the pass rush and Denny, Ellis, and Johnson are nice but no way would I go with them long term they are role players. So yeah I think they need a D-end to keep us from relying on Scholbel so much. And I am not too high on Kelsay taking a step up if Schobel gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I've heard of him. Sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I'd be shocked to see DiGi or Ellsion get cut. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I'd be shocked to see DiGi or Ellsion get cut. yea but seriously..if Digi or Ellison were all that good, why would Buffalo even look at other LB's?..depth? I could see maybe keeping Ellison over Costanzo...I can't see them outright cutting Bowens when they still don't know what he can bring...Ellison's 73 tackles and 2 pass defensed can sit on the bench or sit at home...I'm ok with either aslong as he's not starting...Digi is coming off an injury year, but he had a good year in 2007 tho...both are kinda small at 229 pounds each tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 is this another classic case of everyone just wanting the bills to sign someone to sign someone? yes it is. nobody is concerned why the leading tackler for one of the worst teams in football is being cut? i am sure he is not a bad player, but he is not a difference maker-or this would be news somewhere other than the afc east blog on espn.com. 2 lbs in DJ's D typically. lets bring in levi for a physical and see what kind of shape he is before the bills throw money out there to make it look like they are doing something for the fans. OT and DT are FAR bigger needs than olb for this team. sorry about being a debbie downer here, the situation sounds fishy. besides...raise your hand if you have seen(or heard of) this guy play-somewhere other than on youtube? ...silence he's a very good player. if you haven't heard of him, it's because the rams haven't garnered a lot of national attention with their terrible record. he was released because new head coach steve spagnuolo prefers bigger linebackers in his D, not because he can't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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