Game week thread - Bengals at Bills (flexed to 1pm ET)

[Process]

15 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I hate we are in must win mode the rest of the way.  Had we beat NE and Houston we would be in great shape

For what? Making the playoffs? We need two wins. We have 5 games left. 

 

We are not in must win mode at all. With the division pretty much out of reach, I'm being very cautious with injured guys the rest of the way. 

[TFBillsfan]

I thought Kincaid was dealing with an oblique issue? When did that turn into Knee/Hamstring?

 

Sounds like Bernard, Palmer and Bosa are going to be out for at least a few more games. 

4 minutes ago, Process said:

For what? Making the playoffs? We need two wins. We have 5 games left. 

 

We are not in must win mode at all. With the division pretty much out of reach, I'm being very cautious with injured guys the rest of the way. 

NE could lose to us, Baltimore and MIA. The division is still very much in play. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

12 minutes ago, Process said:

For what? Making the playoffs? We need two wins. We have 5 games left. 

 

We are not in must win mode at all. With the division pretty much out of reach, I'm being very cautious with injured guys the rest of the way. 

Yea I think people just look at the standings and see a loss would drop us out temporarily but all those other teams play eachother so some of them have to lose a few 

[SoonerBillsFan]

16 minutes ago, Process said:

For what? Making the playoffs? We need two wins. We have 5 games left. 

 

We are not in must win mode at all. With the division pretty much out of reach, I'm being very cautious with injured guys the rest of the way. 

With Houston having the tie breaker head to head, we can't afford any slip ups.  Being 7th right now is not a good place to be in

 

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

With Houston having the tie breaker head to head, we can't afford any slip ups.  Being 7th right now is not a good place to be in

 

 

It's why many of us (me included) want KC to win on Sunday night. The Chiefs are no threat to catch the Bills being 2 behind record wise and 3 back by losing to the Bills. The Texans on the other hand are a different story. 

[MDH]

4 hours ago, boyst said:

 

 

The reality is that Mahomes did as much and more with a similarly talented offense in KC the last few years to make the excuse that there truly is a problem here.

 

 

That KC offense was 15th in scoring in each of the last two years (2023 and 2024). How about EPA? 11th both years.  So Mahomes and Andy Reid made a bunch of average talent look...err, average. Those KC teams were carried by their defense in '23 and '24.

 

Meanwhile, this Bills' offense that we're routinely disappointed in was 2nd in scoring last year and 5th this year (2nd in EPA last year and 4th this year.) What we have here is a grass is always greener scenario. 

 

We're disappointed in the offense this year but if they'd get the turnovers down to a tolerable level it would be far less frustrating. Josh hasn't played his best ball this  year but it says something that he's "off" and they're still 5th in scoring and 4th in EPA. Imagine what happens if he gets back to playing the ball we all know he's capable of?

[SCBills]

We play before the Houston/KC game, so I’d guess our rooting interests for that game could be very different depending on how we feel at 4 pm. 
 

Win and I’d want KC out.  Go Texans. 
 

Lose and I’d rather not feel like we may need to go 3-1 to get in.  I say may, because 2-2 probably would do it but not guaranteed if we lose to Cinci. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

14 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

It's why many of us (me included) want KC to win on Sunday night. The Chiefs are no threat to catch the Bills being 2 behind record wise and 3 back by losing to the Bills. The Texans on the other hand are a different story. 

If the Texans beat the chiefs I think they’re probably winning the division tbh. The afc south is really interesting.

Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

If the Texans beat the chiefs I think they’re probably winning the division tbh. The afc south is really interesting 

 

It will be fun to see who wins that division. 

[CincyBillsFan]

I'm not surprised Kincaid was limited today.  Isn't that a given considering the type of injury he has?  Would they really have him go "full" after a couple days of rest? They were always going to ease him back into this weeks practice schedule. Tomorrow and Friday will be the real indicators of whether or not he will play Sunday.  If Kincaid has been watching film he must be licking his chops at the opportunity to go up against the Bengal's LB's & Safety's.

 

 

[frostbitmic]

Flexed ? ... Shouldn't that be called replaced ? 

[Cash]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

 i'd be close to forgiving the pick but i think a WR would have got us further faster.

 

FYI, the next WR drafted after Kincaid was Jonathan Mingo, who I can assure you would have gotten us nowhere at any speed.  The other WRs drafted in the 2nd round that year were:

• Jayden Reed - who's been pretty good but also can't stay healthy.  Also hasn't been at all consistent for GB.
• Rashee Rice - has been quite good when on the field, but between injury and suspension has missed way more time than Kincaid I think.
• Marvin Mims - kind of a rich man's Jonathan Mingo, by which I mean "not good".

Rice over Kincaid is a pretty fair argument if you're okay with the off-field stuff.  Reed vs Kincaid is an interesting debate but definitely not definitive in favor of Reed.

 

My point is that maybe a WR instead of Kincaid would've helped, but just as likely that it would've been significantly worse.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

18 minutes ago, Cash said:

 

FYI, the next WR drafted after Kincaid was Jonathan Mingo, who I can assure you would have gotten us nowhere at any speed.  The other WRs drafted in the 2nd round that year were:

• Jayden Reed - who's been pretty good but also can't stay healthy.  Also hasn't been at all consistent for GB.
• Rashee Rice - has been quite good when on the field, but between injury and suspension has missed way more time than Kincaid I think.
• Marvin Mims - kind of a rich man's Jonathan Mingo, by which I mean "not good".

Rice over Kincaid is a pretty fair argument if you're okay with the off-field stuff.  Reed vs Kincaid is an interesting debate but definitely not definitive in favor of Reed.

 

My point is that maybe a WR instead of Kincaid would've helped, but just as likely that it would've been significantly worse.

And immediately before our pick 4 WRs came off the board (JSN, Johnston, Flowers, Addison). Beane panic picked Kincaid and tried to sell him like a WR with this whole 11.5 personnel immediately after extending Knox to a big contract. 
 

One of these moves would have been fine. Both of them was a mistake. And since Knox had already been extended, it seems like a fair assessment to say the investment in RD1 was always going to be a poor allocation. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Start Slay against Chase and see how much he has left. Please let us hit the jackpot

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Process said:

For what? Making the playoffs? We need two wins. We have 5 games left. 

 

We are not in must win mode at all. With the division pretty much out of reach, I'm being very cautious with injured guys the rest of the way. 

Three wins definitely gets the Bills in. Two wins most likely gets them in but not for sure. 

 

One thing of note is that Philly game. I've been hoping Philly has nothing to play for and it's an easy win for Buffalo. However, that game might be important to them for seeding the way they've been playing. 

1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

I thought Kincaid was dealing with an oblique issue? When did that turn into Knee/Hamstring?

 

Sounds like Bernard, Palmer and Bosa are going to be out for at least a few more games. 

NE could lose to us, Baltimore and MIA. The division is still very much in play. 

I think the AFC East division is lost for Buffalo. Of course, on paper it's still possible. Best case scenario is the Bills get a favorable match up and can maybe host one playoff game. 

[billsfan_34]

7 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Rodgers: started reasonably well, is finishing like he's finished. I got to the point where I was hoping Tomlin wouldn't put Rudolph in.

I too thought Rudolph had a chance to do better than Rodgers. Yes, Rodgers is that bad now. Then, in Rudolph fashion, it drops one right into Benford 😂

Edited 41 minutes ago by billsfan_34

[Ya Digg?]

13 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

And immediately before our pick 4 WRs came off the board (JSN, Johnston, Flowers, Addison). Beane panic picked Kincaid and tried to sell him like a WR with this whole 11.5 personnel immediately after extending Knox to a big contract. 
 

One of these moves would have been fine. Both of them was a mistake. And since Knox had already been extended, it seems like a fair assessment to say the investment in RD1 was always going to be a poor allocation. 

Haha I love statements like this, they make me laugh! So looking back, who should they have calmly and coldly selected?

[newcam2012]

9 hours ago, PaattMaann said:

 

This might be one of the dumbest comments I have ever seen, and I'm not really trying to offend you. 

 

The Bills offense scores points on first drives incredibly well, like that is factual, they are top 5 in the league in getting points off the first drive...but don't trust the fact that they score points, its all about how it LOOKS while they do it??????? Like, seriously, you read that yourself and tell me that does not sound dumb?

 

This was not a conversation about the Bills offense as a whole, I would agree with what you said above if you apply that to the offensive philosophy, but this was a discussion about them "starting slow" and I provided facts saying otherwise, facts that indisputably contrary to your claim. 

Ok if you say so. Maybe reread what I said sentence by sentence word for word. With the exception of the first sentence what do you disagree with? 

 

Such a dumb comment that you back track and agree with me. 

 

It's all good though. No offense taken. 

 

Go Bills. 

[finn]

1 hour ago, Process said:

For what? Making the playoffs? We need two wins. We have 5 games left. 

 

We are not in must win mode at all. With the division pretty much out of reach, I'm being very cautious with injured guys the rest of the way. 

Is the division out of reach? Miami is surging. It's not out of the question that they sweep New England. We win out, and we take the division. Not too crazy a scenario. 

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

It's why many of us (me included) want KC to win on Sunday night. The Chiefs are no threat to catch the Bills being 2 behind record wise and 3 back by losing to the Bills. The Texans on the other hand are a different story. 

 

Agreed.