Bills release Elijah Moore

[Walking Tall]

22 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Elijah Moore has a career passer rating of 65.7 when targeted. His last year in Cleveland was 44.5, with us it was 49.1. That is about as bad as it gets. As a point of reference Mack Hollins who is the definition of a JAG has a career passer rating of 95.6 when targeted.

 

I'm surprised by how many Elijah Moore truthers still exist on this board. He simply isn't a good player. I don't know if people are still holding onto their draft opinion of him or what. He had a couple years where his draft status earned him forced targets that artificially raised his production. Over time players like that always see their production regress to what their skill set actually deserves. It's not so different from Keon Coleman in his first year and a half here, and we saw how quickly that fell off once it became apparent that he couldn't be trusted.

 

Very well but nothing in my statement that I posted is untrue.

[lookylookyherecomescookie]

4 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

You release Moore and keep Samuel? Houston, what the *****, over?

Pretty sure it costs much more to release Samuel.   otherwise-yeah

[Buffalo Boy]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

 

Yeah, going through OCs this quick is a bad look for him no doubt. 

Having his D crap the bed in the playoffs every single time is worse

[Freddie's Dead]

Just now, lookylookyherecomescookie said:

Pretty sure it costs much more to release Samuel.   otherwise-yeah

 

Salary cap issue?  ***** do I care....

[zow2]

Should have released Joe Brady too.  Moore isn’t so awful that he can’t devise a scheme or two to throw him the ball in space. 

[nuklz2594]

he will go to the pats and become an all pro. 

Samuel is vying to be worst free agent signing in bills history

[Nitro]

I look at Brady not finding a way to utilize this player.  The passing game has been disjointed all season.  Never could put a finger what roles these WRs play.   

[Doc Brown]

Browns had something like a 44 passer rating when targeting him last year and two teams let him go.  I didn't have any expectations when they signed him but he was worth a dart throw at only $2.5m.  

[NoSaint]

18 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Should have released Joe Brady too.  Moore isn’t so awful that he can’t devise a scheme or two to throw him the ball in space. 

and yet, Moore has never achieved that level of success 

11 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Browns had something like a 44 passer rating when targeting him last year and two teams let him go.  I didn't have any expectations when they signed him but he was worth a dart throw at only $2.5m.  

he’s a lotto ticket 

 

and those have a place on a roster 

 

Many fans mismanaged expectations though.

[Simon]

He's a black hole for footballs like Isaiah McKittrick

[CirclnWagons]

For so many years, all I wanted was a talented QB back in WNY. We finally have what might be one of the best to ever do it and he’s throwing to a  perennial practice squadder, a constantly injured Dalton Firstaid and a guy we already threw away once. 
WGR-1 Beane-0

[JROC INTEL]

2 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

He was paid $2.5 M to catch 9 balls in 9 games!👎🏻

 

It’s simply astonishing how bad Beanbrain’s choices are as GM.

And we wonder why ticket prices are so high lol. 2.5 mil for 9 catches is wild.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

This is a terribly run franchise. This guy can play and watch he will catch on with somebody else and put up big numbers right away.

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

My thought is you don't rely on guys that are still available to be signed after the draft to play important roles for your team. Especially at premium positions. The narrative that he just needed good QB play to turn his career around was always ridiculous. The tape was out there and NFL pro personnel departments aren't stupid.

Important role?  He was WR5, not sure I’d call that an important role.  I mean that’s what you usually fill bottom of the bench spots with, guys who are still available or developmental draft picks which are all cheap.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Alphadawg7

[BillsFanForever19]

He was the obvious choice. I was saying so after Gabe's first activation.

 

You aren't letting go of Shakir or Palmer. Shavers has another year on his contract and provides Special Teams and Blocking. Samuel they'll want to release this coming off-season to better save cap. And Coleman you could get something for in a trade this coming off-season. 

 

Moore was always the first player who wasn't active if everyone was healthy. He isn't under contract after this season. So after the next 6 games and the Playoffs (if we make them), he's out the door anyways for nothing in return. And he was the WR providing us with the least. He was the obvious odd man out.

 

With the addition of Cooks, we were at 7 on the active roster and that doesn't take into account Gabe Davis on the PS or Mecole Hardman on IR. Pretty clear to me that this was done to put Gabe on the roster. And it wouldn't shock me to see Samuel moved to IR when Hardman is healthy - if everyone were to stay healthy.

[Nuncha]

He was more useless than Coleman...

[HappyDays]

8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Important role?  He was WR5, not sure I’d call that an important role.  I mean that’s what you usually fill bottom of the bench spots with, guys who are still available or developmental draft picks which are all cheap.  

 

When you have a roster full of WR3s, WR5 absolutely IS an important role because they're going to get opportunities. I made this point in the offseason too. If you have Chase and Higgins you barely need to worry about even your WR3. But the less talent you have at the top, the more important it is that the talent at the bottom can make plays. Moore ended up getting significant snaps at the X spot this year and was a total void in that spot when we really needed him to step up and make a few plays for us. I never expected Moore to be able to do that though and it's criminal that Beane did.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by HappyDays

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, Long Suffering Fan said:

 

 

This is a terribly heartless thing to say, but I view guys like him, Samuel, and even Cooks as lottery tickets.  They have shown flashes in the past, will they blossom here?  Who knows.  I'm never mad when we sign them (and I was actually cautiously optimistic about Samuel).  If they don't pan out, it is time to move on.  You don't keep lottery tickets that don't win.

 

Of course, it is a valid argument that we shouldn't be in such desperate straights that our strategy appears to be lottery tickets.

 

The fan in me says...maybe one of them will hit.

 

I like the lotto ticket mentality, but not for WR1.  For 3 or 4, sure.  But not 1 and 2.  

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Nuncha said:

He was more useless than Coleman...

 

I could be wrong, but I believe Coleman would be reasonably effective playing in the slot and quick slants.  He had success against the Titans last year and the Ravens in week 1 being used like that.  The low % back shoulder sideline stuff needs to go away 

[quincy]

He might have a mini in-season rebound for another team like MVS did last year.

 

Less talented teams somehow got more production out of him than the Buffalo Bills with the current MVP, somthing clearly didn't click whist in Buffalo.  

 

MVS was just added to the Steelers PS in early November, he is on his 3rd different team this year.