11/16/25 GAMEDAY Bills vs Buccaneers Post Game Thread

[Gregg]

Me watching this game yesterday.

 

 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

Bucs v Bills slugfest had nine lead changes, which is tied for the 2nd most in NFL history.

 

 

[SCBills]

Kyle Brandt with the most sobering, accurate breakdown of the current state of Buffalo that truly makes you loathe Brandon Beane. 
 

He doesn’t say we can’t win it, we can.. because we have 17.  
 
But it looks like, again, 17 has to be elite 4 games in a row to win a Super Bowl. 
 

If he’s elite in a couple and good in one, we lose the game he’s only good in and it’s rinse/repeat. 

[Nihilarian]

Just happy that Mike Evans and Chris Godwin were not playing and out injured or things might have been different. BTW, who the heck is Sean Tucker? Buffalo had better fix their run defense because it looks like my peepaw could rush for 100 yards against them.🤯

[Robert Paulson]

17 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

It seemed like the Nickel with Taron got gashed and the base run D was better.

McClappy is very stubborn. Taron is cooked. Milano is cooked.

 

Love em both but they both need to take step back.

[Nihilarian]

Another BTW, Beane and McDermott just celebrated their 100th win! 💯

[TheyCallMeAndy]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Kyle Brandt with the most sobering, accurate breakdown of the current state of Buffalo that truly makes you loathe Brandon Beane. 
 

He doesn’t say we can’t win it, we can.. because we have 17.  
 
But it looks like, again, 17 has to be elite 4 games in a row to win a Super Bowl. 
 

If he’s elite in a couple and good in one, we lose the game he’s only good in and it’s rinse/repeat. 

We've had God Mode Allen in the playoffs and it hasn't mattered. 

[Big Turk]

17 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Kyle Brandt with the most sobering, accurate breakdown of the current state of Buffalo that truly makes you loathe Brandon Beane. 
 

He doesn’t say we can’t win it, we can.. because we have 17.  
 
But it looks like, again, 17 has to be elite 4 games in a row to win a Super Bowl. 
 

If he’s elite in a couple and good in one, we lose the game he’s only good in and it’s rinse/repeat. 

 

He always is in the playoffs...he is among the best playoff QB's in the history of the NFL and takes his game to another level.  It's the defense that holds them back most times.

[Cray51]

15 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Kyle Brandt with the most sobering, accurate breakdown of the current state of Buffalo that truly makes you loathe Brandon Beane. 
 

He doesn’t say we can’t win it, we can.. because we have 17.  
 
But it looks like, again, 17 has to be elite 4 games in a row to win a Super Bowl. 
 

If he’s elite in a couple and good in one, we lose the game he’s only good in and it’s rinse/repeat. 

Yea but what QB who wins the Super Bowl ISNT boderline elite throughout the playoffs?

 

Hurts last year:

4 games: 10 TDs, 2 TOs

 

Mahomes the year before:

6 TDs 1 TO

 

The year before that:

7 TDs 1 TO (3 games)

 

Being elite doesn't mean putting up Allen's stat line from yesterday.  Allen had 2 BAD turnovers that will not work against the great teams.  Hurts and Mahomes were elite in their SB campaigns because they protected the ball AND help drive offense.

 

The defense isn't super bowl calibre yet, but it wasn't that way at this time of the year last year either.  Last year we had Rams and Lion back to back that showed our defense was an issue.  The team needs to grow, which is why Beane invested so much into the defense when fans were complaining that the offense needed more talent.  Now people are mad that the investment hasn't paid off, but the goal is for it to improve over the next 7 weeks as we get into the postseason.

[Jerboski]

17 hours ago, Nelius said:

But who doesn’t? I get that it’s cool to doom gasp and anoint the Pats right now, but the conference is wide open still. People still act as if the Bills are a playoff outlier and not right in the middle of it all 

Nothing doom and gloom about it 

 

I’m not interested in just making the playoff, we have done that for years now. when is the expectation to actually win it, you aren’t going to have this version of Josh forever. 
 

you think this team is built in a way it can win it all, strongly disagree unless Josh hero’s them to it 

[CincyBillsFan]

35 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Just happy that Mike Evans and Chris Godwin were not playing and out injured or things might have been different. BTW, who the heck is Sean Tucker? Buffalo had better fix their run defense because it looks like my peepaw could rush for 100 yards against them.🤯

Well in your imaginary world of Evans & Godwin playing do the Bills get Kincaid & Oliver?

 

 

[JustHewIt]

5 minutes ago, Jerboski said:

Nothing doom and gloom about it 

 

I’m not interested in just making the playoff, we have done that for years now. when is the expectation to actually win it, you aren’t going to have this version of Josh forever. 
 

you think this team is built in a way it can win it all, strongly disagree unless Josh hero’s them to it 

 

The thing is the landscape of the AFC is wildly different this year, so to just assume the playoffs will go the same way is silly. And also we can't reconstruct the roster in any meaningful way at this point, so every thread devolving into complaining about the roster make up is pointless. 

 

Not to mention most of the time its just reacting to whichever unit played bad that game.  Last two weeks it was "Receivers bad!" Now its "front seven bad!" Beginning of the year was "Secondary bad!"

[BearNorth]

36 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

 BTW, who the heck is Sean Tucker? Buffalo had better fix their run defense because it looks like my peepaw could rush for 100 yards against them.🤯

As promised I did have to throw my remote at the TV, fortunately no damage to either item

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Well in your imaginary world of Evans & Godwin playing do the Bills get Kincaid & Oliver?

 

 

 

Nope sorry Beane sucks

[stuvian]

This team is schizophrenia inducing.

 

First was Josh's shot put fumble in our own end that brought back the dread leftover from the Dolphins game. When the defense was on the field, I watched the Bucs back up running backs gash us like Saquon Barkley. With each failed tackle, I'm telling myself not only are we going to lose this game but we don't even deserve to win. With Emeka Egbuka their only viable receiving threat, it begs the question why we are in a pass defense when the Bucs have no alternative but to run. Even Mayfield had to contribute on the ground. Then there was Hardman's kickoff fumble.

 

When the offense later got on track they scored with such quickness and ease, I was dumfounded by how effortless they made it look. In reality, Josh put us on his shoulders again for a world beating 6 TDs. Do we really have to score 40+ points to beat a good team? That is in no way sustainable over the course of a season and postseason. 

 

I suspect that until we get Oliver and a few others back that this is exactly what we will have to do. I have seen the Bills play solid run defense last year in the first half of the Ravens playoff game. I think Clappy can call the right formations against a given opponent and that our D will do enough.

 

I just wish it didn't require super hero performances from Josh week in and week out. 

 

 

[CNYfan]

43 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Just happy that Mike Evans and Chris Godwin were not playing and out injured or things might have been different. BTW, who the heck is Sean Tucker? Buffalo had better fix their run defense because it looks like my peepaw could rush for 100 yards against them.🤯

Sean Tucker was second in the nation in rushing to Kenneth Walker II a few years back but suffered a devastating leg injury leading up the draft and fell to the 4th round.  

Looks like he is healthy.  SU Alum, of which there are zero (0) on the Bills' Roster

Edited 1 hour ago by CNYfan

[mannc]

3 minutes ago, stuvian said:

This team is schizophrenia inducing.

 

First was Josh's shot put fumble in our own end that brought back the dread leftover from the Dolphins game. When the defense was on the field, I watched the Bucs back up running backs gash us like Saquon Barkley. With each failed tackle, I'm telling myself not only are we going to lose this game but we don't even deserve to win. With Emeka Egbuka their only viable receiving threat, it begs the question why we are in a pass defense when the Bucs have no alternative but to run. Even Mayfield had to contribute on the ground. Then there was Hardman's kickoff fumble.

 

When the offense later got on track they scored with such quickness and ease, I was dumfounded by how effortless they made it look. In reality, Josh put us on his shoulders again for a world beating 6 TDs. Do we really have to score 40+ points to beat a good team? That is in no way sustainable over the course of a season and postseason. 

 

I suspect that until we get Oliver and a few others back that this is exactly what we will have to do. I have seen the Bills play solid run defense last year in the first half of the Ravens playoff game. I think Clappy can call the right formations against a given opponent and that our D will do enough.

 

I just wish it didn't require super hero performances from Josh week in and week out. 

 

 

Josh Allen is not a game manager QB.  What we saw is Brady finally allowing him to throw the ball in non-obvious passing situations.  With our defensive struggles, that’s how we have to win…

[CincyBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, mannc said:

Josh Allen is not a game manager QB.  What we saw is Brady finally allowing him to throw the ball in non-obvious passing situations.  With our defensive struggles, that’s how we have to win…

This.  In the 2 shoot outs where Allen was let off the leash the Bills have won beating likely playoff teams and scoring 41 & 44 points. Going forward this is how the Bills should play offense. Of course the Bills will lose a game they shouldn't because Allen will have an off day and turn the ball over without generating a bunch of TD's.  But that's just the price you pay for having a QB like Allen so if the Bills want to go 5 - 2 or 6 - 1 over the next 7 games this is how they will have to play it.

 

The bottom line is that the defense is not good enough to play the type of ball control game McD/Brady want to play.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by CincyBillsFan

[Warriorspikes51]

7 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

This.  In the 2 shoot outs where Allen was let off the leash the Bills have won beating likely playoff teams and scoring 41 & 44 points. Going forward this is how the Bills should play offense. Of course the Bills will lose a game they shouldn't because Allen will have an off day and turn the ball over without generating a bunch of TD's.  But that's just the price you pay for having a QB like Allen so if the Bills want to go 5 - 2 or 6 - 1 over the next 7 games this is how they will have to play it.

 

The bottom line is that the defense is not good enough to play the type of ball control game McD/Brady want to play.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We should stay as unpredictable as possible.  Yesterday showing we can win multiple ways is huge 

[Royale with Cheese]

Palmer was also wide open.  Allen had two good options.