According to Cover 1, Coleman will be a healthy scratch

[Bangarang]

The offense did not miss him and was probably better off without him. 

[SCBills]

Outside WR’s:

 

Palmer

Gabe

Shavers

 

Slot WR’s:

 

Shakir

Samuel vs Coleman vs Moore

 

KR/PR:

 

Hardman

 

That’s how I’d view this from here on out.  Hardman is on a short leash with the fumble and being unable to reel in the deep throw, but did have a 61 yard return and got open deep.  I’d give him more time as KR/PR and a package of plays in the Offense. 
 

The people who liked Keon in the Draft, liked him as a big slot.  Looks like we can/should finally play him there IF he can get on the field. 

[Maynard]

5 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

The offense did not miss him and was probably better off without him. 

Agreed! I was getting so tired of watching Allen force feeding the ball to Coleman. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Trade him away for anything we can get for him this offseason. I'd take a box of athletic tape if that's the best offer.

[yall]

One has to wonder if the excuse they used for benching was really a face-saving move. 

 

Allows them to shift blame to the player versus actually having accountability for drafting someone who doesn't have the right level of talent.

[Royale with Cheese]

Amazing stat I heard regarding Coleman.

 

Last year without Coleman after the wrist injury, we scored.....

30, 30, 35 and 42.  

This year....44.

 

I mean I sense a pattern....do youse guys?

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Royale with Cheese

[extrahammer]

I think Keon has some type of mental issue. I think it was the post-game McD speech video after the Chiefs game, Keon is standing in the background and looks like his mind is far away from the Bills. His press conference interviews this season are always short along with his answers. The day he's benched he's out there dancing on the field in warm ups, not bashing him for it, just seems odd on the day you're benched. And if you watch his post-game comments below, once again, his mind seems like it's in another universe. 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by extrahammer

[mannc]

7 minutes ago, yall said:

One has to wonder if the excuse they used for benching was really a face-saving move. 

 

Allows them to shift blame to the player versus actually having accountability for drafting someone who doesn't have the right level of talent.

Did you see Dawkins’s comment?  It was real.. 

[billsfan714]

3 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Who said he was uncoachable?

 

 

He's a cancer?

 

 

 

F*&k this guy because you'd prefer he was moping? What if he's trying to buoy up his teammates and not drag them down?

 

 

You must be very smart.

 

 

Which attitude is that?

 

 

Was he late for the team meeting or the position group meeting?

 

 

Why are you laughing at them?

 

 

If he's benched, I hope it brings you great joy... or satisfies your emotions.

 

 

Never mind... they've already got the pitchforks out...

 

Well speaking for myself, you have a guy in Coleman who has been late more than once before, now he ups it to missing a meeting.  So there's a pattern of previous unprofessional behavior, so I dont get why anyone wouldn't believe he did something stupid, again.  

[Royale with Cheese]

11 minutes ago, extrahammer said:

I think Keon has some type of mental issue. I think it was the post-game McD speech video after the Chiefs game, Keon is standing in the background and looks like his mind is far away from the Bills. His press conference interviews this season are always short along with his answers. The day he's benched he's out there dancing on the field in warm ups, not bashing him for it, just seems odd on the day you're benched. And if you watch his post-game comments below, once again, his mind seems like it's in another universe. 

 

 

 

I'm not sure it's a mental issue, I think he just doesn't have drive.  A true competitor, would lose their mind getting benched.  That would light a fire under them to work harder.  Keon doesn't care.  He is all about having a good time.  I think we all know people like this, he's one.  

[BearNorth]

6 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

Well speaking for myself, you have a guy in Coleman who has been late more than once before, now he ups it to missing a meeting.  So there's a pattern of previous unprofessional behavior, so I dont get why anyone wouldn't believe he did something stupid, again.  

In what world would a person who you paid a $4.1 million signing bonus and is making a $1.25 million dollar annual salary blow off a meeting with the boss and still have a job. I've seen people let go making a lot less for far less unprofessional reasons.

[blitzboy54]

1 hour ago, milfandcookies said:

Telling it to his face is one thing. Telling it to the cameras is another.

 

In your job example you would never go to the local papers and say it about your fellow employee 

Fair point. I guess they have a public job so it might not be apples to apples but you might be right. 

[MarkyMannn]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Outside WR’s:

 

Palmer

Gabe

Shavers

 

Slot WR’s:

 

Shakir

Samuel vs Coleman vs Moore

 

KR/PR:

 

Hardman

 

That’s how I’d view this from here on out.  Hardman is on a short leash with the fumble and being unable to reel in the deep throw, but did have a 61 yard return and got open deep.  I’d give him more time as KR/PR and a package of plays in the Offense. 
 

The people who liked Keon in the Draft, liked him as a big slot.  Looks like we can/should finally play him there IF he can get on the field. 

Idk, I was surprised at how effective Ray Davis was on KO's.  I'd leave him on that.  And at least that gives him some level of reps to keep him in the game mentally

Edited 47 minutes ago by MarkyMannn

[Thurman#1]

On 11/16/2025 at 11:40 AM, SoonerBillsFan said:

I disagree, you cant miss how he does in the early rounds. 

 

 

You can't.

 

Overall he does pretty well there, and much better in the draft overall, which is how this should be looked at. 

 

Certainly two major failures in Cody Ford and Basham. But if you're looking at all early draft picks over 7 or 8 years, you'll find pretty much every team has several poor picks. It's how things go. Look at the Chiefs, who in the top two rounds over the last seven years have picked Felix Audike-Uzomah, Skyy Moore, Willie Gay Jr., Mecole Hardman and Juan Thornhill, all in the 2nd round, and you can throw in Edwards-Helaire in the 1st.

 

Even in the first round, success rates run at around 50%, and it's lower later in the draft where we generally end up.

 

Wanna look at how a GM does in the draft? Simple, look at how he does in the draft. Not some part of the draft that can be separated to further some narrative or other. The draft. That's what you look at if you want to find out how someone drafts.

 

 

Edited 42 minutes ago by Thurman#1

[Paup 1995MVP]

9 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Poyer and Hyde were signed before Beane arrived.  He doesn't get credit for signing them.

 

I'm not trying to say Beane hasn't had any good FA signings.  Rapp was a good acquisition even if he does have a proclivity for "friendly fire".  Ty Johnson.  

But let's look again at the statement I was agreeing with...

"My complaint about Bean is more about his roster structure and FA acquisitions.  He's part of the decision process that favors the D and didn't see a need to replace Diggs/Davis with an equally productive pair of WR's."

 

I'll give Beane full credit for Beasley and Brown, though he failed to adequately replace either (Manny Sands was gimped up and Crowder/McKensie was a disaster.  I'll give him credit for Diggs, too, though people who look at Justin Jefferson will give us both the side-eye....and I don't think a GM ought to boast on a guy he eats $30M of dead cap just to get him off the team.

 

The point being made was that Beane favors the D in his drafting AND in his FA acquisitions, and that he failed to adequately replace Diggs and Gabe Davis.

I don't think that last is arguable.  You can argue the first depending on how you slice it. 

 

You're absolutely right that losing Landon Jackson and Dwayne Carter, not to mention Ed Oliver and Michael Hoecht, huge blow to the D.

Landon Jackson had done absolutely nothing for us this year at the time he was injured.  And the jury is out on Dwayne Carter.  But he has been injured most of his career, and I think had only one real solid game at Houston last year.  Neither guy looks to have big time potential.  But time will tell.  I hope Jackson recovers in time for next season's off season work.  He played defense in the SEC.  So the guy has to have some talent, right?  Carter on the other hand played at Duke.  And while their program certainly doesn't suck any longer.  Playing defense there is nothing compared to the SEC.  

 

I agree about losing Hoecht and Oliver.  That is problematic.  But regardless of the injuries, not nearly enough good NFL defenders play for our defense at this point.  Injuries or not.  And the lack of high end talent at WR is problematic as well.  However, getting Gabe Davis back yesterday is a definite plus.  And Shavers showed a lot yesterday.  That has to give him confidence.  And the team and Josh confidence that he can make plays when his number is called.  I think the offense can continue trending upward if we let Josh throw it all over the yard.  

[davefan66]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Amazing stat I heard regarding Coleman.

 

Last year without Coleman after the wrist injury, we scored.....

30, 30, 35 and 42.  

This year....44.

 

I mean I sense a pattern....do youse guys?

 

There is always more to the story…  not sure it’s much lore than what we see.

 

I would hope if a player is detrimental to a successful offense, he’d be on the bench.  I believe yesterday showed how good we are without him and have no issue benching him moving forward.

 

If all a dude can do is “contested catches”, then he needs to be the 5th receiver used in the endzone or spread plays every so often. Honestly don’t believe he’s that good at contested catches anyways.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

End of the day - he pouted, missed a meeting, and hit the bench.  He can either continue to pout and make problems with his coaches and teammates, or just show up and try and get back on the field.  People are criticizing him for having a good time with his teammates before the game, but i see that as a positive because i think this whole thing could have turned very quickly in the other direction.  

 

I believe he will have a role here by the end of the season and the playoffs, and for that reason i do want him to get focused, get right, and be accountable.