Game week thread - Bills at Panthers

[CircleTheWagons99]

If Young plays he is going to have a MVP type game. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

This thread is Drought Era pregame depression!

This team looks drought era as of late 

[I Am The Liquor]

Carolina to Buffalo pipeline is flushing the opposite way.

[Process]

I just realized the Panthers have a winning record. Wtf?

[Psautcsk]

30 minutes ago, Process said:

I just realized the Panthers have a winning record. Wtf?

3 wins in a row

Edited 11 hours ago by Psautcsk

[Simon]

27 minutes ago, Process said:

I just realized the Panthers have a winning record. Wtf?

 

That is actually kind of stunning.

So much so that I didn't believe you and had to go look up standings 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

33 minutes ago, Process said:

I just realized the Panthers have a winning record. Wtf?

 

31 minutes ago, Psautcsk said:

3 wins in a row

 

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

That is actually kind of stunning.

So much so that I didn't believe you and had to go look up standings 

Finally…we can beat a team with a winning record!

[JerseyBills]

 

What we think? 

 

[stevewin]

6 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Would you consider asking him not to attend the Panthers game... or any other Bills games for that matter... for the rest of his life?

 

😜

 

Actually, my nephew (who lives in ATL) has been with him for each game, and is going to ClT as well.  They've both been doing this thing each game where they wear Zubaz overalls with no shirt.  My son said he's not wearing the overalls  this week - he feels that should be good enough to break the bad luck streak.  I told him to burn them.

[Big Turk]

5 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

My issue with Frazier was that the defense in Frazier's era was inconsistent despite the defense being usually top 5 in terms of cap spending and a lot of picks being thrown onto that side (the teams first draft pick from 2019-2022 were all spent on the defensive side of the ball). For all that was done on the defense the team ranked outside of the top 5 on defense 2 out of 4 years from 2019-2022. Then there was the lackluster 2021 and 2022 playoff performances and I think Frazier despite being a good coach was just done. 

 

I think it was the right call for McD to move on at that point. 

 

Huh?

 

What are you looking at? The only year Frazier's defense wasn't top 5 with Allen was in 2020 when it was ranked 14th.

 

In the other years it was ranked 2nd, 3rd, 1st, and 4th.

 

In PPG starting in 2018 it was ranked 18th, 2nd, 16th, 1st and 2nd.

 

Bills were literally a "no-fly" zone under Frazier...over a 4 year period the Bills had more games they allowed under 200 yards passing than they allowed over 200 yards. In an era where 300 and even 400 yard games are common, that's ridiculous.

 

The problem was mostly in the playoffs.

Edited 8 hours ago by Big Turk

[Big Turk]

Haha...Panthers signing Mike White to the PS since Young is going to be out a while...

[Richard Noggin]

6 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

He picked Babich over Butler (who was the DB savant) and chose wrong.

 

This somewhat contentious decision has been forgotten of late, even with all the angst over Babich's defense. "Chose wrong" isn't easy to declare with certainty, but also isn't easy to rebut. 

 

5 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

For all that was done on the defense the team ranked outside of the top 5 on defense 2 out of 4 years from 2019-2022. 

 

I think it was the right call for McD to move on at that point. 

 

This is a weird way to say Frazier coached multiple top-5 defenses over a 4-year stretch (and it might have been 3 out of 4, no?)...

 

I also did not disagree with moving on from Frazier at the time.

 

5 hours ago, boyst said:

McDermott did not fire dorsey. The team did. The captains and the offensive players pretty much told McDermott fire him or lose us. He did notdid immediately fired him after that meeting and you can see that in that Broncos game that we just looked uninterested. 

 

And to those who dispute me, those who say that I am not telling the truth in making this up or it's some rumor. Fine go ahead and believe it but I can promise you this is legitimate straight from the locker room. 

 

The players have openly rebelled to McDermott several times questioning his leadership.

 

Quite the tea being spilled here; I've not heard this before. Has anyone else? (This does align with my worst case suspicions of McD's leadership in the locker room.) 

 

4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Sneaky is not who the Bills are. That would require risk. McD can’t spell risk. It’s not in his nature. 

 

I heard some player yesterday admit post-game that a big TD play call had just been installed the day before, and that the TD was actually their first live rep of it...

 

8 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Huh?

 

What are you looking at? The only year Frazier's defense wasn't top 5 with Allen was in 2020 when it was ranked 14th.

 

In the other years it was ranked 2nd, 3rd, 1st, and 4th.

 

In PPG starting in 2018 it was ranked 18th, 2nd, 16th, 1st and 2nd.

 

Bills were literally a "no-fly" zone under Frazier...over a 4 year period the Bills had more games they allowed under 200 yards passing than they allowed over 200 yards. In an era where 300 and even 400 yard games are common, that's ridiculous.

 

The problem was mostly in the playoffs.

 

And while they were NO FLY, they were kinda YES RUN by comparison, at least with respect to avg Y/A. Game scripts probably helped cap their rushing yards allowed in many games. 

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

This somewhat contentious decision has been forgotten of late, even with all the angst over Babich's defense. "Chose wrong" isn't easy to declare with certainty, but also isn't easy to rebut. 

 

 

This is a weird way to say Frazier coached multiple top-5 defenses over a 4-year stretch (and it might have been 3 out of 4, no?)...

 

I also did not disagree with moving on from Frazier at the time.

 

 

Quite the tea being spilled here; I've not heard this before. Has anyone else? (This does align with my worst case suspicions of McD's leadership in the locker room.) 

 

 

I heard some player yesterday admit post-game that a big TD play call had just been installed the day before, and that the TD was actually their first live rep of it...

 

 

And while they were NO FLY, they were kinda YES RUN by comparison, at least with respect to avg Y/A. Game scripts probably helped cap their rushing yards allowed in many games. 

 

But not many teams are beating the Bills by running the ball when the pass D was that lock down.

[Comebackkid]

whats the posibility that wr's dont really want to sign here because of offense usage.   your not going to get many targets..your going to have to block, 

you may be a decoy most the game.    not very inticing especially if your older.

[Ray Stonada]

No guarantee we will win this game, the way we have looked... 

 

It's weird to say, but one benefit of getting housed in this game:

 

We are stuck in a doom loop of exactly the same season every year. Josh dragging us to 11-13 wins, us coming up short against KC. 

 

Maybe if this season spins totally out of control, we get good draft picks and a new coaching staff and we get excited again...

[Dan]

25 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

No guarantee we will win this game, the way we have looked... 

 

It's weird to say, but one benefit of getting housed in this game:

 

We are stuck in a doom loop of exactly the same season every year. Josh dragging us to 11-13 wins, us coming up short against KC. 

 

Maybe if this season spins totally out of control, we get good draft picks and a new coaching staff and we get excited again...

Why do I feel like a number of posters here… secretly wish/hope for a loss and collapse of the team?

 

I know a lot of posters want to be right and about the coaching and Beane being the worst ever, but this is drought era thinking.   The Bills are 4-2. Your desire to be right about predicting their demise should not exceed your desire to see the Bills win. 
 

Go Bills!   Always and forever.  (Even when Rex was the HC and we all knew that was going to end bad, even before he bought his fancy truck)

[Pete]

Just now, 26TrapDraw said:

Hoecht would be better than Greg “ I show up for work every once in a while” Rousseau

Falcons scored on 3 of 4 drives in the first half.  The Bills stopped one drive.  Or should I say, Rousseau stopped the drive. 1st down Rousseau tackle for loss.  2nd down Rousseau tackle for a loss.  3rd down Rousseau tackle for a loss 4th down Punt to Bills . 

 

Hoecht is a stud that is going to elevate the whole D Line.  Larry O is going to toughen up the interior.

 

 

[Pete]

9 hours ago, Psautcsk said:

3 wins in a row

It will be 4 in a row if Brady continues to be clueless and the Bills play their ***** brand of football they have played the last 3 games.

4 hours ago, Dan said:

Why do I feel like a number of posters here… secretly wish/hope for a loss and collapse of the team?

 

I know a lot of posters want to be right and about the coaching and Beane being the worst ever, but this is drought era thinking.   The Bills are 4-2. Your desire to be right about predicting their demise should not exceed your desire to see the Bills win. 
 

Go Bills!   Always and forever.  (Even when Rex was the HC and we all knew that was going to end bad, even before he bought his fancy truck)

I would love to be wrong.  I’d love for Coleman to become Anquan Boldin, Brady turn into Bill Walsh, Bills D turn into 2001 Ravens, and Bills offense score like Detroit.

 

Problem is I live in

 

 

[CSBill]

5 hours ago, Dan said:

Why do I feel like a number of posters here… secretly wish/hope for a loss and collapse of the team?

 

I know a lot of posters want to be right and about the coaching and Beane being the worst ever, but this is drought era thinking.   The Bills are 4-2. Your desire to be right about predicting their demise should not exceed your desire to see the Bills win. 
 

Go Bills!   Always and forever.  (Even when Rex was the HC and we all knew that was going to end bad, even before he bought his fancy truck)

 

THIS! THIS! THIS!

 

 TY, Dan.

17 hours ago, stevewin said:

My son traveled to Buffalo for the NE game and to ATL after that.  He's also going to Charlotte this week - says if they lose he's gonna stop going to games 😛

 

Stop him, NOW!

[Pete]

3 minutes ago, CSBill said:

 

THIS! THIS! THIS!

 

 TY, Dan.

^^^^^^this! This!