Trading for a player mid-season...

[Governor]

Yup, need a good CB regardless of Hairston’s situation because it’s only a matter of time until Benford is out.

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

 

 

Fact is, teams are willing to trade away these players mid-season for a reason. The truly valuable trades typically happen in the off-season, not during.

Yes there is always a reason for someone selling assets. But it could be that the team is performing horribly and is looking to hit the reset button from 2026 starting with the draft. That is a good enough reason for us to call one of these teams and offer picks for a speedy WR with good hands. If we didn't get a volume player, it's fine. We need someone to be that guy who will keep defenses honest. A John Brown types.

I am not looking to sell my 8 year old car but if someone comes to my door with cash at $5000 over book value, I will sell. 

 

In summary, I disagree with your notion and feel that Beane should go around flashing his credit card and see who is or becomes available. 

[KOKBILLS]

21 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Who would you take from those teams?

 

For the Jets; Williams, Sauce and Wilson aren’t going anywhere unless it’s serious capital going their way. 

Titans; Simmons, McCreary and Sneed. Who knows there. That team might move one of them. Van Jefferson is interesting to me but he’s just a role player who I don’t think you can define as consistently good. 

 

Man I have been a Jeffrey Simmons fan...on the field... since before the Bills decided to take another DT 10 spots before he was Drafted... But I totally understand why the Bills wanted no part of that risk...To his credit he's stayed out of trouble in the NFL. He has missed a total of 14 games due to injury. But when that dude is healthy is is an absolute beast... 

[Gregg]

38 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Who would you take from those teams?

 

For the Jets; Williams, Sauce and Wilson aren’t going anywhere unless it’s serious capital going their way. 

Titans; Simmons, McCreary and Sneed. Who knows there. That team might move one of them. Van Jefferson is interesting to me but he’s just a role player who I don’t think you can define as consistently good. 

 

 

Has a trade ever happened between divisional rivals of players of this caliber. I would take all three players from the Jets but the chances they would help us out are almost zero percent.

[billsfan89]

Rasul in 2023 was a big shot in the arm for the defense. I would also argue Cooper was a nice add as despite the low numbers teams respected him on the outside.

 

KB yeah he was rough. But Douglas and Cooper helped. Hines also had those kick return TD’s even if he was underutilized 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

October 1987: two first round picks and Greg Bell for Cornelius Bennett.

Actually we gave up three draft picks (1988 1st and 2nd, 1989 1st) to the Rams. 

[BigDingus]

I think Beane should be making moves like his & McDermott's jobs are on the line. 

 

If this team loses in the playoffs for a 7th year in a row, how can you justify doing it again? The ONLY way I can see it being remotely reasonable is if we beat the Chiefs in the process. But given our schedule, they shouldn't be looking at 3 years down the road & how these rookies might EVENTUALLY develop. They need to do something THIS season. 

 

The Colts taking the 1 seed would be embarrassing. Stop wasting the best years of our franchise, MVP QB. 

[Mark Vader]

From the Cardinals: Budda Baker and Josh Sweat.

 

I know, I know, it sounds unrealistic, but if you're going to make a move and try and win it all, you might as well go for it all.

 

As long as Kyler Murray is the QB in Arizona, that team is going nowhere. The Cardinals have talent that is wasting away, let's bring one of them to a contender.

Edited 6 hours ago by Mark Vader

[Fleezoid]

1 hour ago, Sojourner said:

Who would you take from those teams?

 

For the Jets; Williams, Sauce and Wilson aren’t going anywhere unless it’s serious capital going their way. 

Titans; Simmons, McCreary and Sneed. Who knows there. That team might move one of them. Van Jefferson is interesting to me but he’s just a role player who I don’t think you can define as consistently good. 

 

 

Nobody particular in mind. I've just seen teams become massive sellers in the past. Probably much too early for that. 

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

From the Cardinals: Budda Baker and Josh Sweat.

 

I know, I know, it sounds unrealistic, but if you're going to make a movie and try and win it all, you might as well go for it all.

 

As long as Kyler Murray is the QB in Arizona, that team is going nowhere. The Cardinals have talent that is wasting away, let's bring one of them to a contender.

You know that, and I know that. But do they know that? Remember, all trades are made by coaches and GMs who are trying keep their jobs, and not with the long-term interests of the franchise in mind. Also, the Cards are stuck with Murray for this season and next season due to his contract, so I don't think that they will go into rebuild mode until the 2027 offseason. If Ossenfort and Gannon make trades like you're proposing, it will be other guys that will get to use those draft picks because they'll be fired. 

 

This is a general point. NFL teams don't trade all their players for draft picks and prospects like NBA, NHL, and MLB teams do. There are excellent players on teams that have no chance of winning anything because every team is somewhere in the QB development cycle and thinks they are a draft away from the Super Bowl. Also,  teams don't trade prospects that they just drafted for established vets. 

[mannc]

2 hours ago, CDogg20 said:

Rasul was a great pickup at the time

 

Amari is a toss up.

 

Benjamin on the other hand…

Amari Cooper made a lot of big plays last year, even though he perhaps did not give us everything we wanted…hell, the pitch back to Allen for the TD in the snow against SF alone was almost worth a third round pick…

[Gunsgoodtime]

16 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

I think Beane should be making moves like his & McDermott's jobs are on the line. 

 

If this team loses in the playoffs for a 7th year in a row, how can you justify doing it again? The ONLY way I can see it being remotely reasonable is if we beat the Chiefs in the process. But given our schedule, they shouldn't be looking at 3 years down the road & how these rookies might EVENTUALLY develop. They need to do something THIS season. 

 

The Colts taking the 1 seed would be embarrassing. Stop wasting the best years of our franchise, MVP QB. 

If people are justifying it in the 7th year they will surely justify it in the 8th 🤣

[Rigotz]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

Benjamin belonged on a Rex Ryan team with unlimited donuts in the meeting rooms.

 

I’m not sure if we would have even made the playoffs without the emergency acquisitions of Cooper and Douglas. They were not long-term fixes, but they patched a leaky tire to keep things moving down the road. 

 

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2 hours ago, CDogg20 said:

Rasul was a great pickup at the time

 

Amari is a toss up.

 

Benjamin on the other hand…

 

Guys... I appreciate that we all want the Bills to win a Super Bowl this season, but these were objectively poor long term decisions.

 

Spending a 3rd round pick on a guy who isn't on your team the next year is rarely a good decision. It's a particularly bad one when they don't have a massive impact on the team's ultimate goal, which is to win a Super Bowl.

 

You can all disagree with me if you like, but blowing a 3rd round pick on a guy who will only make you marginally better for one season is a poor strategy and shows no patience in teambuilding.

[Mark Vader]

3 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

You know that, and I know that. But do they know that? Remember, all trades are made by coaches and GMs who are trying keep their jobs, and not with the long-term interests of the franchise in mind. Also, the Cards are stuck with Murray for this season and next season due to his contract, so I don't think that they will go into rebuild mode until the 2027 offseason. If Ossenfort and Gannon make trades like you're proposing, it will be other guys that will get to use those draft picks because they'll be fired. 

 

This is a general point. NFL teams don't trade all their players for draft picks and prospects like NBA, NHL, and MLB teams do. There are excellent players on teams that have no chance of winning anything because every team is somewhere in the QB development cycle and thinks they are a draft away from the Super Bowl. Also,  teams don't trade prospects that they just drafted for established vets. 

Yeah, I realize that, and I know that this is myself dreaming of trading for these players.

 

Both Baker & Sweat aren't getting any younger, and maybe they'll become disgruntled and want out of Arizona.

 

I'm sure that Beane will be looking to find a player who can help us. He did a good job in getting Amari Cooper last year, and that was a good trade. 

 

Just have to wait and see.

[Augie]

25 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

 

Guys... I appreciate that we all want the Bills to win a Super Bowl this season, but these were objectively poor long term decisions.

 

Spending a 3rd round pick on a guy who isn't on your team the next year is rarely a good decision. It's a particularly bad one when they don't have a massive impact on the team's ultimate goal, which is to win a Super Bowl.

 

You can all disagree with me if you like, but blowing a 3rd round pick on a guy who will only make you marginally better for one season is a poor strategy and shows no patience in teambuilding.

 

If they get you into the playoffs, that was a fair price to pay. Once you are IN the playoffs you have a chance to win it. As we know, a third round pick comes with no guarantees. 

 

 

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Edited 6 hours ago by Augie

[Gregg]

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[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

2 hours ago, Rigotz said:

Everybody wants the roster to improve immediately in areas of need. I get it.

However, impatience has killed Brandon Beane and this team in the past.

 

Ask yourself this question... when was the last time an in-season trade worked out for the Bills?

 

I can think of plenty that didn't:

Kelvin Benjamin for a 3rd round pick.

Amari Cooper for a 3rd and 6th round pick.

Rasul Douglas for a 3rd and 5th round pick. 

 

So, for all of those who will inevitably say "Brandon Beane caught sleeping again" ... name one time we traded for a guy in-season and the trade worked out for us?

 

Fact is, teams are willing to trade away these players mid-season for a reason. The truly valuable trades typically happen in the off-season, not during.

Cooper, while no stud, opened up the passing game with his mere presence and past reputation as a top NFL wideout … Douglas was good to very good as a starter opposite Benford for a season.  The only one I’ll give you is KB, but as a team just coming into its own, trading for him was a sensible move, based on his past reputation. 

[dpberr]

I thought the Rasul Douglas trade was fantastic for the Bills.  

 

A lot of these trades so far this year are either underperforming players or too often injured players that teams don't want to pay new contracts, so why not get something in return.  

 

A part of the equation is who's available.

 

For example, IMO, Cincy trading for Joe Flacco didn't make a lot of sense.  Read where they called almost everyone in the NFL, and for example, the Giants didn't want to part with Winston or Wilson.  Now, it looks like that was the best they could do at this juncture.  

 

If the Bills look great at the deadline, would I trade a Dawson Knox or an Alec Andersen or a high pick for a player that really helps in the playoffs?  Probably.  You don't want a flame out season right before you open the new stadium.  Need to get it done this year.  

 

 

[skibum]

Whoa now, Rasul was a really good player for a while. That was a great move at the time - he made an impact right away. 

[Nester]

Trade our 1sts for something that fills a gap (secondary), we don't really utilized them well. 

 

Keep the 3rds and 4ths.   😁