Madubuike out for the season

[boyst]

2 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

The Ravens will be 1-6 and their fans will be like “Lamar is the real MVP”

 

If the Ravens want to actually play some mind games and protect fragile minded Jackson they sit him this weekend and take the loss so everyone can claim how important he is when it's the entire defense that got gutted this past weekend.

 

Remember they lost to the Bills because Ricard wasn't available and Likely was out. Lol

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, EssexBill said:

 

The eagles when Carson Wentz went down and Nick Foles tookover? I can't remember if Wentz was on big money then but I think he was in the MVP conversation around that time

 

He wasn't. Still on his rookie contract. But yes, he was in MVP contention. 

[mannc]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree. Roquan went out Sunday too, not heard an update yet. Reminder again that even some of the better teams in the league find 3 or 4 of their best players going down is too hard to overcome. Next man up is a cute theory. When it is your best guys it simply doesn't work. 

 

EDIT: worth adding as well that is even more the risk you take when you go for the stars and filler model of roster building. When I look at their roster I struggle to find a single spot where their depth is as good as the Bills depth. I can find plenty where their starters are better, sure, but their build relies a lot more on their guys staying healthy. I have been as critical as anyone of the Bills lack of stars, but it is right to credit them with their depth. 

It’s worth noting that the Ravens’ schedule does get easier in a few weeks (I think they lose to Houston this week), but if it gets uglier, this could be Harbaugh’s last season in Baltimore…

[wjag]

8 hours ago, mannc said:

Honestly, I think the Ravens are done for this year.  And still no update on the mysterious Lamar hamstring injury…

 

The Ravens carnage on that game was insane:

 

Lamar -- Hammy -- Feelings hurt

Stanley LT -- Ankle issues -- Continues to have issues staying on the field

Smith LB -- Hammy -- Promised a Ravens victory over the Bills -- out multiple weeks

Wiggins CB -- Elbow/Arm/Shoulder? -- Bright young corner.  Heard he was fastest player on team

Humphrey CB -- Hammy -- Caused a stir with his Lions decimation day-after podcast  -- out multiple weeks

 

Week leading up to game

 

Madubuike DL -- Out for season

Washington DL -- 4 week or more IR stint

Jones DL -- Knee issues

Van Noy LB -- Hammy

Ricard FB -- Calf issues.

 

 

 

[Augie]

2 hours ago, 4th&long said:

I feel bad for them. The injuries are frustrating especially with the salary cap preventing teams from having decent backups. 

 

2 hours ago, Playoffs? said:

We will be facing KC in the playoffs… again….

 

Somehow, I don’t think Chiefs are feeling sorry for us every year in the playoffs. 🤷‍♂️

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, Playoffs? said:

We will be facing KC in the playoffs… again….

Hopefully we're the team that has the bye week going into it as the top seed as to meet easier going through two teams vs three to make the Super Bowl.

[SoTier]

1 hour ago, fergie's ire said:

You could be right....except who is going to win that division?  The Steelers?  They looked good this past Sunday, but, before that, I had not been impressed even in their wins.  And will Rodgers hold up?  So if not the Ravens and Steeler, what?  The Bengals look dreadful without Burrow.  The Browns?

 

Somebody has to win the division.   I think both Ravens and Steelers are capable of getting 9-10 wins.  If the Browns had a real QB, they could easily surpass that number.

 

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

For sure. I am not saying one is right and one is wrong. My point was more the salary cap forces you to make some choices and then you need a bit of luck for those choices to work out.

 

According to some posters, luck has never been a factor in any of the Bills playoff exits since 2019.

 

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Wentz looked the next Josh Allen before that injury.  

Don't know what happened to him after.  It's not physical, he just can't mentally process the game anymore.

 

Wentz has never grown beyond the way he played as a sophomore QB.  Given that Philly continued to win with Foles after Wentz went down -- including the Lombardi -- I think Wentz was terribly over rated because his supporting was so good. 

[NewEra]

They were historically healthy last season.  
 

hopefully we can be historically healthy this season 

[JP51]

3 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

If they do I hope, it's in OP

Honestly, I think there is a chance its San Diego... just a feeling I have... if not them KC... but I think the Chargers may win the division. 

[Simon]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Agree. Roquan went out Sunday too, not heard an update yet.

 

A "couple weeks" for Roquan.

Marlon Humphrey went down in that game too and is also out for a couple weeks.

At this point, they're just Kyle Hamilton and a bunch of guys.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, mannc said:

It’s worth noting that the Ravens’ schedule does get easier in a few weeks (I think they lose to Houston this week), but if it gets uglier, this could be Harbaugh’s last season in Baltimore…

 

I think they're a tough matchup for houston actually - definitely depends if lamar plays.  As much as all the players missing will hurt, i expect them to probably sit back in zones and dare houston to run - then send the house on 3rd and longs.  

• Houston's got a weak o-line, and even the backups with baltimore are a bunch of big boys that will clog it up and make it tougher to run the ball.  Houston haven't been able to run the ball much.  Strouds also running more, and getting sacked more.  
• It's in baltimore, and stroud's traditionally been considerably worse on the road.  He's also been considerably worse outdoors.
• Baltimore beat the crap out of them last year in Houston 31-2, and they basically just ran the ball the entire game.  I know they're missing some people... but season's on the line for a SB favorite - i don't see them laying down.  

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Ravens seem like they are done.  Unfortunately that means they get a top 15 draft pick next year.  Wonder if they decide this is the time to move on from Harbaugh???

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

They were historically healthy last season.  
 

hopefully we can be historically healthy this season 

No chance of that....Brown, Milano, Oliver, Bass, and Hairston have all missed games and were starters or presumed starters. The starting 5 OL started every game last year.  That streak is already over.  Shakir is still playing injured.  

[NewEra]

25 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Ravens seem like they are done.  Unfortunately that means they get a top 15 draft pick next year.  Wonder if they decide this is the time to move on from Harbaugh???

No chance of that....Brown, Milano, Oliver, Bass, and Hairston have all missed games and were starters or presumed starters. The starting 5 OL started every game last year.  That streak is already over.  Shakir is still playing injured.  

Come playoffs. 

[HappyDays]

They can't beat Texans or Rams with Lamar out on top of all the other injuries. I know their schedule gets easier but 1-5 is quite the hole to dig out of. They can only afford maybe 2 losses in their last 11 games and there's no guarantee some of these injured players will come back the same.

[BRH]

13 hours ago, mannc said:

Honestly, I think the Ravens are done for this year.  And still no update on the mysterious Lamar hamstring injury…

 

Here you go...

 

 

I'll believe it when I see it.  If he comes back, he (a) gets lauded for his toughness and (b) has a built-in excuse if things go sideways.

 

If he doesn't come back, it'll be excused as "they've had so many injuries, season's over anyway."

 

He may not have an agent, but he's got a great PR team.

6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

They can't beat Texans or Rams with Lamar out on top of all the other injuries.

 

Not sure they can beat them with Lamar IN on top of all the other injuries, either.

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

Here you go...

 

 

I'll believe it when I see it.  If he comes back, he (a) gets lauded for his toughness and (b) has a built-in excuse if things go sideways.

 

If he doesn't come back, it'll be excused as "they've had so many injuries, season's over anyway."

 

He may not have an agent, but he's got a great PR team.

 

Not sure they can beat them with Lamar IN on top of all the other injuries, either.

I think they lose to both Houston and the Rams, to go 1-5.  But their schedule after that is cottony soft, and I would not rule out 10-7, which could be good enough to win the division, or a WC.

[JGMcD2]

10 minutes ago, mannc said:

I think they lose to both Houston and the Rams, to go 1-5.  But their schedule after that is cottony soft, and I would not rule out 10-7, which could be good enough to win the division, or a WC.

Vikings, Browns, Steelers (x2), New England and Packers won't be a cakewalk. 

 

They should beat Miami, Chicago, New York and Cincinatti (x2).

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Vikings, Browns, Steelers (x2), New England and Packers won't be a cakewalk. 

 

They should beat Miami, Chicago, New York and Cincinatti (x2).

Yep, with the Ravens’ injury list, none of those will be a cakewalk.

[zow2]

12 hours ago, Utah John said:

I honestly feel sorry for the Ravens.  For years now they've been a strong competitor for the Bills so we sort of hoped they wouldn't do all that well, but what's going on with all these injuries is really devastating. 

 

I don't feel sorry for them.  The organization and the Ravens fans can curl up at night with their Lombardi trophies and lament their injury issues.

 

I feel sorry for the Bills and our fans.  Maybe one of the most dominant teams statistically for several years running and we don't even have a SB appearance to show for it, let alone trophies.  

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

15 hours ago, mannc said:

Honestly, I think the Ravens are done for this year.  And still no update on the mysterious Lamar hamstring injury…

 

The one scary thing here is if both Ravens and Bengals keep losing, they could get some decent draft picks and be even better in 2 years.  I've seen that happen a bunch where a good team has injuries ends up drafting in top 10 and can reload on the fly.

 

Fortunately they play each other and Cleveland, plus throw in Jets and Miami so may be tough for either of them to not win 5 or 6 games