Bills need(s) after week 3

[Low Positive]

1 hour ago, Rubes said:

 

That guy for the Dolphins that gave us fits was kind of like that. He would have looked great in a Bills uni.

 

EDIT: Ollie Gordon II...rookie, 6'1, 225lbs.

 

I thought that too in the moment, but he had 9 carries for 38 yards. I felt like Hill was destroying us, but he went 5 for 49. His longest catch was 19 yards and he only had 13 YAC. Dalton Kincaid, in contrast, had more catches (6), yards (66), and YAC (43) on four fewer targets. For as frustrated as we all were at the defense, they kept the game in front of them for the most part. 

[MikePJ76]

If they were to trade for a wr again this season I am going to personally burn down the new stadium.  

 

 

[K-9]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

3 games into the season, 3 rookie DL and two FA DL on suspension - I think things will improve as the rookies gain some experience and Hoecht and Ogunjobi return.  
 

Pass rush needs a little help in the form of pass coverage.  Playing soft zone due to secondary personnel doesn’t help the rush at all.

I can’t fault the coverage schemes too much as Miami has receivers that can kill you over the top and McD has sought to take that away every time we play them and quite successfully. Miami planned for this and sought to force us to lose discipline as they played short ball most of the game. The fact they were at a negative average depth per pass late into the first half bore this out. Heck, they were still just a little over three yards average depth late in the third quarter and didn’t get to over five yards, still well short of their average coming in, until late in the game when we backed off even more. And I think it’s worth noting that on several of the passes Tua hurt us with were when he was uncharacteristically extending plays with his feet and forcing DBs to hold coverage far longer than any DBs can be asked to hold coverage.

 

Edited September 20 by K-9

[chris heff]

I’ve said this before, it’s been three games. They have some new guys and some rookies playing, can we give this group a chance to gel? Why do some of you think they can just make a trade? To trade you have to have a trading partner.

Edited September 20 by chris heff

[gonzo1105]

Get healthy and gel as a team is what they need 

[Big Turk]

It's not happening, they got who they got. Be patient.

 

We aren't playing Madden

Edited September 20 by Big Turk

[skibum]

A lot has been said about what is needed on defense. Despite all the leaks, I have actually been impressed with how well they have come through at critical times, with big plays and key stops despite having a lot of likely starters on the shelf. I think once more guys are healthy, things will get better with the existing roster, though Safety still seems dicey. It's also only been three games, not enough for me to believe hot takes like that Rousseau is no longer any good, etc. 

 

It's hard to pick on the offense at all. I think we expect them to score a TD on every drive now, but that's a lot to expect in the NFL. By more reasonable measures, they look like a well-oiled machine up and down the roster. 

 

Overall, this is a really deep team and I think realistically, it would be hard to improve on it much aside from upgrading at Safety. They are 3-0 for good reason.

[Augie]

42 minutes ago, chris heff said:

I’ve said this before, it’s been three games. They have some new guys and some rookies playing, can we give this group a chance to jell? Why do some of you think they can just make a trade? To trade you have to have a trading partner.

 

40 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

Get healthy and gel as a team is what they need 

 

22 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

It's not happening, they got who they got. Be patient.

 

We aren't playing Madden

 

We are 3 games in and averaging 34 points/game with a 3-0 record. Nobody is giving away a Randy Moss in his prime, and I think this is less of a problem than some people make it out to be. I’m looking forward to seeing this play out this season so we’ll have a better idea of how active we need to be in the offseason, but for now I think we’ve got our WR room set. 

 

Keep running the ball effectively and we will get our shots downfield in time. 

[eball]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Let’s play a fun game and list all the NFL teams that do not have some type of need(s) as perceived by their fans. 

 

 

 

 

Well, THAT was fun! 

 

You do the best you can with what you have, and you never have everything you want. Yes, we have some thin spots for sure, but overall I like our roster and potential. 

 

2 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

3 games into the season, 3 rookie DL and two FA DL on suspension - I think things will improve as the rookies gain some experience and Hoecht and Ogunjobi return.  
 

Pass rush needs a little help in the form of pass coverage.  Playing soft zone due to secondary personnel doesn’t help the rush at all.

 

Exactly.  This team is 3-0 with multiple injuries and suspensions on defense, yet in the last two games they’ve allowed a combined total of 430 yards.  The defense was always going to start slow and get better as the season progresses.

 

[BearNorth]

3 hours ago, T.E. said:

We need one of those bruiser backs who is good for nothing other than picking up two yards but who will always get you two yards. I don't even know if they make them anymore, to be honest.

We have one, he wears #17.

[aristocrat]

Devon achane to backup cook. Cook on pace for too many carries. Would be electric 

[BearNorth]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

It's supposed to start from the DL first.  If they pressure,  it allows the zone coverage to collapse on the receivers.  But if there is no pass rush, the dbs are naked on an island. It's the Dlines responsibility to do their job first. Very rarely do you get coverage sacks.

And of course our 3 tech Oliver, who is graded #1 in pro football, sprained his ankle in practice.  Hopefully he will be close to 100% when he returns, said return complicated by 2 games within 8 days of his injury. 

[notpolian]

The "depth chart" on the Bills site says Shaq Thompson backs up Milano in the base defense.  Does that mean he would play outside LB in the base nickel?  I'd like to see how things would look with him and Milano out there in nickel, but if he don't have the dot maybe that's not possible.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

It's not happening, they got who they got. Be patient.

 

We aren't playing Madden

This.  
 

All teams generally dance with the ones who brung ya.
 

I would love to see these young guys develop.  Would love to see Solomon getting worked in more at end. Maybe rotate Ray Davis in for full series, like last year. Get Hancock and strong more playing time. 

[gonzo1105]

48 minutes ago, notpolian said:

The "depth chart" on the Bills site says Shaq Thompson backs up Milano in the base defense.  Does that mean he would play outside LB in the base nickel?  I'd like to see how things would look with him and Milano out there in nickel, but if he don't have the dot maybe that's not possible.

 

He was essentially Taron Johnson in a 4-3 when he was the Panthers. He's essentially in his prime, a bigger version of Johnson

[JGMcD2]

2 hours ago, chris heff said:

I’ve said this before, it’s been three games. They have some new guys and some rookies playing, can we give this group a chance to gel? Why do some of you think they can just make a trade? To trade you have to have a trading partner.

Yeah, but I just pulled off a league-altering trade in my dynasty league after two weeks - managed to get Jaxon Smith-Njigba for two firsts and a second.

 

I’ve been in the finals six straight seasons and won four of them. Losing in the finals last year left a bad taste.

 

If I can make moves like this, why can’t Beane? Clearly, he doesn’t want to win as badly as I do.

Edited September 20 by JGMcD2

[HappyDays]

I'm a broken record at this point but I still think a field stretching WR is the one missing piece to take this offense to another level. Curtis Samuel is currently the least important player on the roster so it would be an easy replacement.

 

Would the Saints be willing to part with Rashid Shaheed? He's on a 1 year deal and their season is going nowhere. Give them back Samuel and a 5th, or something like that.

[Pete]

Pass rush and CB2

[T.E.]

1 hour ago, BearNorth said:

We have one, he wears #17.

You know what? I'm not terribly confident in him picking up short yardage anymore. Line doesn't get enough push and his height is a disadvantage.

[billsfan89]

Hard to say, week 1-2 are almost extended pre-season and Thursday games are funky. So I think the Bills will have to really get more games in to see what any trade deadline needs are.

 

I think Safety remains a big concern but seems like the tandem has settled down after that terrible start. Once again not sure what’s happening on a more granular level there.

 

Defensively in general Mad Max and the PED twins come back so there’s reinforcements coming. 
 

I think offensively WR could be an issue if Keon isn’t a bit more consistent but I can’t see any major moves there.