Lost in the noise - Chiefs 0-2 for the first time in the Mahomes era

[JoshAllin]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I have a hard time enjoying it while seeing the Eagles allowed to false start on every Tush Push.

 

The NFL better get this addressed before we play them. And better not wait until after the Eagles beat us in the playoffs (Super Bowl) to fix it like they've historically done.

I don't get why the bills dont run that same thing. The eagles make it look automatic vs the chiefs compared to what the bills did. They'd have been playing in the SB instead

[Royale with Cheese]

53 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Chiefs first half schedule is tough.  They could realistically be 0.500 when we see them in Buffalo.

 

Chargers 0 - 1

Eagles 0 - 2

 

Next Up: 

 

Giants 

Ravens  

Jags 

Lions 

Raiders 

Commanders  

Bills

 

 

I think the only teams that I would say I'm feeling Giants and Raiders.

Everyone else, it's going to be a battle for them.  

[chris heff]

1 hour ago, MasterStrategist said:

Lots of people mentioning, missing Rice and Worthy --- true.

 

But Rice is coming off a knee, will he look like he did pre injury?

 

Bigger issues for them IMO, are the OL and Kelce isnt playing like his usual self.  The right side of that OL, especially Taylor, is horrendous.  Kelce dropped a sure TD, that turned into an INT --- when's that happened in the past?  Last week, he ran his crossing route at the goal line incorrectly too.

 

If Rice comes back like he was pre injury, that will help them immensely.  But other issues linger that might not be fixable until next yr.

I agree, people keep saying KC offense will be better when Rice and Worthy return, probably, because their offense right now is all Mahomes. Rice and Worthy can’t play OL or RB. Kelce is not what he was. 

[BullBuchanan]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Mahomes isn't Brady and Reid isn't Belichick so that's where that comparison ends.

Andy Reid is absolutely in that conversation, and Mahomes could be if he plays long enough and his success continues.

[Jauronimo]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I think the only teams that I would say I'm feeling Giants and Raiders.

Everyone else, it's going to be a battle for them.  

The Raiders gave them more trouble than other divisional opponents in recent years.  This is a different Raiders team but Maxx Crosby means Mahomes is in for a long day.  He makes it a point to touch Mahomes and get in his ear on every play.  We will see, but that division looks to be getting more competitive while ours may be the worst in football.

[BullBuchanan]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

The in-division loss to the Chargers absolutely matters.

Does it? They dropped a game to Denver each of the last two years. Two years ago they list to Denver AND Oakland and they still won the SB.

We'll see if the Chargers are for real. I have a ton of respect for Harbaugh and wouldn't be surprised for them to go on a nice run, but their roster has so many holes. They could win the division, but I don't see them as a threat int he playoffs.

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

People here treat the playoffs as a given. They're not. It's like everyone has collective amnesia about both the 2021 and 2023 seasons. In both cases, the Bills were out of a playoff spot in Early December and had to win out. And they almost didn't in both cases. Remember Matt Ryan's collapse at the end of that snow game in 2021? And in 2023, we were one Kadarius Toney offensive Offside penalty from missing the playoffs. Every game matters.

The playoffs are the floor of expectations. When you're a top 3 team int he conference, playoffs really should be a given unless something really went off the rails. We could have multiple season ending injuries to key players, and assuming Allen was healthy, iw ould absolutely EXPECT playoffs at a minimum and wouldn't take excuses if they didn't get there. 

Winning 10/17 games shouldn't be seen as a hard thing to do when you get to play the Patriots/Dolphins/Jets 2x a year.

[L Ron Burgundy]

They are going to be fine (unfortunately).  Barely lost, against 2 good teams.  They coulda beat Philly if Kelce catches a ball that was maybe thrown a quarter second early.   Not saying they definitely win if that's a td but good chance.  We're only 2 games in.  

[BillytheKid]

I told everyone that the Chiefs won’t make the playoffs this year. 
 

Made a whole post about it 2 months ago and people were laughing. I gave you the reasons why. 
 

They definitely aren’t coming back to make the playoffs. Yeah we are only going into week 3 but again like I said before the Chiefs have too many things going against them historically. 
 

They are done this year. They will have to try again next year. Watch and see. I’ll be pulling up my post when they are completely eliminated from the playoffs to say I told you so.
 

You can refresh your memories on everything I showed they had going against them historically. History repeats itself a lot. KC had too many things to overcome. 

[stevewin]

1 hour ago, Fleezoid said:

 

I personally hate the Tush Push. The low camera angles yesterday showed just how bad it is. At least one Eagle lineman blasting forward on every play before the ball moves.

 

Talking to a coworker today, he had a very good idea. Not sure if it was his, or he heard it somewhere. The idea is for a defensive lineman fake an injury on every Tush Push play. Get the injury stats up because there are some that say that injuries piling up is the only sure way to get the rule changed. 

 

 

One thing I've noticed is the actual push seems to mean less now - it's more about the OL getting the jump and diving low and creating the wedge.  I think if they outlawed the "push" it wouldn't necessarily stop a team like Philly who has perfected the OL wedge technique and has a powerful person running the ball

 

 

[benderbender]

Fascinating how only after the Swifties/KC fanboys are upset does the “legitimate” concern for the tush push get popular with the talking heads.

[BuffaloBaumer]

They will probably be 4-4 when they play the Bills. They were one play away from most likely beating the Eagles yesterday. KC is far from done.

[TBBills Fan]

1 hour ago, Cray51 said:

Giants - Win

Ravens  - Loss

Jags - Win

Lions - Win

Raiders - Win 

Commanders - Loss  

Bills - Loss

 

My guesses

Id switch the commanders and Lions

[quincy]

On offense I would think their philosophy will eventually change from dink and dunk to vertical.

 

Yesterday they were going to deep to Thornton and eventually connected for a long touchdown on the third attempt. 

 

When all WR are healthy and available - Rice, Worthy, Brown, Thornton plus Kelce - bombs away especially if there is no ground game. A lot of speed and the Tyreek idea being floated. 

 

It would not be shocking to me if they are 6-2 when we play them, they are still wearing the AFC crown and we have to wrestle it off them. 

 

 

[BuffaloBill]

54 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

Hopefully this isn’t true!

 

 

 

 

This looks like an agent ploy and a hopeful distraction…

[RoyBatty is alive]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I have a hard time enjoying it while seeing the Eagles allowed to false start on every Tush Push.

 

The NFL better get this addressed before we play them. And better not wait until after the Eagles beat us in the playoffs (Super Bowl) to fix it like they've historically done.

Totally agree.

 

There were multiple potential penalties on multiple tush push plays, on both sides/

 

NFL is certainly going to being it up again this off-season and I think they get the 2 votes to ban it they need.

[corta765]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

They will probably be 4-4 when they play the Bills. They were one play away from most likely beating the Eagles yesterday. KC is far from done.

 

Exactly. Last year they had perfect luck of plays going their way when you needed it most. This year is market correction as shown with Kelce getting hit in the hands  at the goal line only to deflect it to the Eagles. They will still probably win 10-12 games, but watching last year they had the largest golden horseshoe I have seen in a long time for a team.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Totally agree.

 

There were multiple potential penalties on multiple tush push plays, on both sides/

 

NFL is certainly going to being it up again this off-season and I think they get the 2 votes to ban it they need.

 

Dean Blandino on the broadcast...

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

Hopefully this isn’t true!

 

 

This doesn’t make a lot of sense for either team to me.  McDaniel/grier really aren’t in a position where they’d keep their job if the dolphins bottom out 

 

chiefs seem to have a lot of oline and overall depth problems as parity has been chipping away at their roster..  they should prefer the picks over a wr that will soon be on the downswing.  Chiefs will only have interest if the dolphins just let themselves get fleeced imo 

Edited September 15 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Buffalo Ballin]

It's best to start this convo if Chiefs go 0-3 or 1-4.

[DrDawkinstein]

9 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

This doesn’t make a lot of sense for either team to me.  McDaniel/grier really aren’t in a position where they’d keep their job if the dolphins bottom out 

 

chiefs seem to have a lot of oline and overall depth problems as parity has been chipping away at their roster..  they should prefer the picks over a wr that will soon be on the downswing.  Chiefs will only have interest if the dolphins just let themselves get fleeced imo 

 

Pretty sure both Grier and McDaniel will be fired after a loss to the Bills this Thursday. Good time for Ross to do it with the longer week for the interims to settle in.

 

From there, any dummy can make the call to trade Hill away for a bag of footballs.

 

Chiefs will probably take any firepower at this point.