Is Our WR Corps Good?

[hondo in seattle]

Our starting wide receivers combined for over 200 yards receiving against the Ravens - a total that last year's wideouts didn't often achieve.  Is this a better receiving corps?

 

Coleman  8/112

Shakir  6/64

Palmer  5/61

 

How do we explain their productivity?  Weak Raven secondary?  Good scheme and play-calling by Brady?  Josh makes any receiver look good?  Or do these guys have some legit talent?   

 

Your thoughts?

 

[JJGauna]

Keon was feasting on the sidelines, snatching the ball out of the air. He’s ready to shine.

[Starr Almighty]

For some unknown reason The Ravens started playing soft with the 15 point lead and the Bills are a good team and took full advantage of it

 

Oh and Alexander is washed lol

Edited 2 hours ago by Starr Almighty

[SCBills]

Once we let Allen go, Palmer & Coleman turned into Chase & Higgins. 
 

No idea what the issue was for 3 quarters of the game. 
 

(As pointed out above, the Ravens did play softer, but once they had to tighten up, they still made plays)

 

Edited 2 hours ago by SCBills

[HappyDays]

Baltimore has maybe the best secondary in the league so this was always going to be a tough game to evaluate. But the separation just wasn't there until the very end. And when they had opportunities to make individual plays they couldn't do it. Shakir had a chance to make a big catch on 3rd down but dropped it after contact. Coleman stepped out of bounds before his 2PC, then failed to make a contested catch on the next try. Palmer supposedly has these great separation metrics but none of that showed up tonight.

 

The one bright spot was Coleman heating up in the 2nd half. We saw glimpses of the guy that had reportedly been dominating training camp, and he and Allen clearly have developed a good connection that should only get better from here. I'm not sure that is going to be enough though.

[Big Blitz]

Don’t know yet but I’m excited about Keon.  
 

Hate to nit pick - I don’t think Palmer is on the same page with Josh yet - and I’m not happy about how he stopped/gave up on 2 balls one of which was almost a pick.   

 

Used to Mack busting his tail doing everything last year.  Palmer has to be better.  
 

 

Look the Ravens are awesome.  That’s a great defense.  I think Brady was a bit timid in how he attacked it.   

[GoBills808]

No

[Nelius]

If Keon takes a step then absolutely. If Keon and Palmer take leaps then the few WR obsessed heels that remain (few, few, it’s basically just BillsVet) will have to find a new schtick entirely.

[DrDawkinstein]

Josh

[DC Greg]

Keon has so much ability. He’s still got a lot to work on to be a complete WR, but he’s young. I’m hopeful he’ll continue to develop.

 

I’m excited about Palmer. He is a polished route runner. We really needed a guy like that. Let’s hope things keep moving in the right direction! Also, any WR benefits naturally from playing with 17.

[GoBills808]

I don't want to be the wet blanket all the time

 

But the deciding factors today were the Ravens inexplicably deciding to play off and Allen going nuclear, not the quality of our wrs

[billsbackto81]

Palmer really impressed me tonight. 

 

Clutch catches, solid hands.

[BillMafia716ix]

Still feel we need a deep threat. We have a big arm QB and no speed threat. There were a few times in the game nobody could get open. and for some weird reason the Ravens decided to play soft coverage in the 4th quarter. 

Edited 2 hours ago by BillMafia716ix

[hondo in seattle]

6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Baltimore has maybe the best secondary in the league so this was always going to be a tough game to evaluate. But the separation just wasn't there until the very end. And when they had opportunities to make individual plays they couldn't do it. Shakir had a chance to make a big catch on 3rd down but dropped it after contact. Coleman stepped out of bounds before his 2PC, then failed to make a contested catch on the next try. Palmer supposedly has these great separation metrics but none of that showed up tonight.

 

The one bright spot was Coleman heating up in the 2nd half. We saw glimpses of the guy that had reportedly been dominating training camp, and he and Allen clearly have developed a good connection that should only get better from here. I'm not sure that is going to be enough though.

 

Happy Days, all your micro-observations are true.  But you also point out that Baltimore "maybe has the best secondary in the league."  Yet Josh threw for nearly 400 against them in a game they badly wanted to win.  And our wideouts accounted for more than half of those yards. 

 

So maybe when you put the wideouts under a microscope, they don't look so good.  But when you look at the big picture (389 yards passing, 41 points, and a W), they look a little better.  

[Bangarang]

The WRs couldn't get any kind of separation for 3 quarters until the Ravens went into a soft prevent. 

 

Teams will obviously look to continue clogging the middle to try and force our guys to win on the outside. 

 

I've never seen Josh pump the ball so many times before and I imagine that is a product of not being able to throw on schedule because guys couldn't get open. 

 

That being said, Keon and Palmer each made big plays in the 4th quarter.

 

Their play moving forward is obviously going to be very important. 

[Nelius]

394 yards passing. You also can’t discount the WRs. It’s very wet blanket. They did exactly what many of you said they couldn’t do.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Keon was getting mugged most of the game or he woulda had an even better night…they did even it out a little bit with that late dpi that looked like it should’ve been a no call

 

that ravens secondary always gets away with a ton against us 

 

he really is kinda the anti-worthy lol I feel like both teams got the guy they want in that draft.  So many of those plays Keon made were just impossible to defend legally 

Edited 2 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[H2o]

JA17, just like with the OL, makes guys look better than they are. The fact he can throw absolute dimes to every level of the field makes their job easy. If they get open, he will throw it. It's all on them after that. 

[Victory Formation]

I never thought I’d say this but I think that Keon Coleman is Josh Allen’s WR#1.

[LABILLBACKER]

17 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Once we let Allen go, Palmer & Coleman turned into Chase & Higgins. 
 

No idea what the issue was for 3 quarters of the game. 
 

(As pointed out above, the Ravens did play softer, but once they had to tighten up, they still made plays)

 

Exactly,  sometimes early in a game we're so damm conservative with JA.  Let him eat and don't be afraid of opening it up. Too many predictable runs for Cook tonight.