Jordan Phillips is back

[RoscoeParrish]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Was just thinking the same thing.

 

I’m sure there’s some Elam threads that we (and Beane) all look pretty bad in

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said:

I’m sure there’s some Elam threads that we (and Beane) all look pretty bad in

🤣 yeah- I can’t remember if I commented much on drafting him, but I was not a fan of the pick.  I was hoping for Andrew Booth, Kyler Gordon, Dax Hill, Christian Watson or George Pickens..  

 

post draft-  like most of my posts, I was in the lets wait and see how he progresses before handing in the verdict

[HOUSE]

I have no problem with the signing as JP was a consistent effort player.

Perhaps this will make more sense by Wednesday 

Brandon Beane can be a sneaky SOB. 

 

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Edited Monday at 11:27 AM by HOUSE

[Coach Tuesday]

I am admittedly jealous of the Eagles who have an active, cutting-edge, first-class pro personnel department making a slew of trades at the waiver deadline in an effort to upgrade depth.  Versus Beane’s guys who clearly have run out of new ideas and cannot help but squander their remaining cap dollars on over the hill defensive linemen every single freakin’ year.  These small differences often make big differences late in the season.

[uticaclub]

7 hours ago, eball said:

Oh, this thread is gold for the “I know more than Beane” crowd. 
 

It’s gold, Jerry! Gold!

 

Has Beane shown you he can build a defensive line or secondary?

[T master]

I love it ! He said he would only play for the Bills so I bet he has a very nice contract .

 

This guy has that Bills DNA and will also show the rookies how to be better and this must have something to do with what the coaching staff hasn't seen from other players in the pre season .

 

Last year during the play offs Phillips showed that he can still get pressure and that is something they need to. I think this may be just a temporary thing until the 2 players that are suspended come back but I for one think he will be a help especially seeing as he is healthy ..

 

GO BILLS !!! 

[balln]

41 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I am admittedly jealous of the Eagles who have an active, cutting-edge, first-class pro personnel department making a slew of trades at the waiver deadline in an effort to upgrade depth.  Versus Beane’s guys who clearly have run out of new ideas and cannot help but squander their remaining cap dollars on over the hill defensive linemen every single freakin’ year.  These small differences often make big differences late in the season.

Yup. Their MLB find last off season. Baun. From

nola.

 

literally that’s the move of the year or last 5 years that makes their department elite 

[Matt_In_NH]

Who else can rise his hands to the crowd better than this guy?

[SectionC3]

3 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I have not watched but Marino says Carter is not worth a roster spot but he thinks he will make it.  Wonder if the bills are ready to make that move.  Or jones like people are saying, looks like a cap savings to be had.  

Who's gonna play 1T on first and second downs if Jones goes?  Not Walker.  Not Big Phil, that's for sure.  Dewayne Carter?  No way.  Someone not on the roster? Maybe.  I guess.  But I see this move more about cleaning out Larry (cap savings for a guy who had a mediocre camp) and Dewayne (JAG) and having Big Phil around as the 5th DT who will not dress on game days absent injury or poor play by others.  

[nosejob]

10 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You sure about that? Deone Walker was brought in to be his eventual replacement. And he's been wow'ing at every opportunity. 

 

If they feel he's ready to handle that spot right now (alongside T.J. Sanders sliding over to rush alongside Oliver on obvious passing downs) - cutting Daquan Jones saves us 5.5m on the Cap.

 

I'm not saying that's definitively what's happening here. But we need to free up cap to go from 51 to 53, pay the PS, and have in season spending. And with the performance of Walker and Jones being able to save us 5.5m - I definitely wouldn't say "not a chance".

I would say it's about time.

[Matt_In_NH]

3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Who's gonna play 1T on first and second downs if Jones goes?  Not Walker.  Not Big Phil, that's for sure.  Dewayne Carter?  No way.  Someone not on the roster? Maybe.  I guess.  But I see this move more about cleaning out Larry (cap savings for a guy who had a mediocre camp) and Dewayne (JAG) and having Big Phil around as the 5th DT who will not dress on game days absent injury or poor play by others.  

I don't know what their plan is, maybe they plan to keep 5 with Carter inactive and Phillips will fill in until Ogunjobi is back.

[BillsVet]

45 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I am admittedly jealous of the Eagles who have an active, cutting-edge, first-class pro personnel department making a slew of trades at the waiver deadline in an effort to upgrade depth.  Versus Beane’s guys who clearly have run out of new ideas and cannot help but squander their remaining cap dollars on over the hill defensive linemen every single freakin’ year.  These small differences often make big differences late in the season.

 

Goes to a point you made after the draft about the DL.  With Beane, it's a become this annual exercise to revamp the DL or add multiple contributors to it.  Yeah, there's having a rotation, but they've signed 4 UFAs and drafted 3 more while having a 3-4 from last season who'll be in the rotation for 2025.   

[JP51]

15 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I agree, it's puzzling. Carter is gone. Either it's PS, or maybe they're cutting Ogunjobi, too?

I would say that they are not happy with someones performance that we know... It would be early to get rid of Carter although he has shown me very little this PS... but I am half wondering if it isnt DaQuan Jones that might go, although, I am not sure if that brings us cap relief... if it does, its possible, if not, then I am probably barking up the wrong tree... 

[nosejob]

40 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Has Beane shown you he can build a defensive line or secondary?

Maybe not yet, Shoen has. Hopefully BB learns from the Giants and Philly. Draft them high every year until you have one. Dline that is.

[mjt328]

11 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said:

I think Carter being a Beane bust is a large part of the griping.

 

Typical Brandon Beane:

-  Drafts bust on Day 1 or 2

-  Trades bust for a 6th Round Pick

-  Totally nails 6th Round Pick

 

[fergie's ire]

What's puzzling is the "later this week" part, as if it's going to be after the 53 man cutdown.  If they are not happy with Ogunjobi and/or Carter, wouldn't they sign Phillips today and then cut them before tomorrow? I also wondered about a sign and then immediately retire a Bill....but the timing doesn't make sense on that, either.  If it's not to the practice squad, this signing is weird.

[Bruffalo]

I have nothing against Jordan Phillips and I think most of us like his personality and motor.

 

That being said, I kind of hate this.  Beane went on record about saying how the defense wasn't good enough last season, so why are we trying to bring back the pieces that couldn't get it done the last two seasons? Is Beane gonna turn on the bat signal for AJ Klein or Eli Ankou next?

 

I would rather have the rookies take snaps early on in the season and make mental mistakes than have a guy who knows what to do but can't get it done physically.

[Captain Hindsight]

24 minutes ago, nosejob said:

Maybe not yet, Shoen has. Hopefully BB learns from the Giants and Philly. Draft them high every year until you have one. Dline that is.

Picking in the top 10 has helped the Giants 

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I am admittedly jealous of the Eagles who have an active, cutting-edge, first-class pro personnel department making a slew of trades at the waiver deadline in an effort to upgrade depth.  Versus Beane’s guys who clearly have run out of new ideas and cannot help but squander their remaining cap dollars on over the hill defensive linemen every single freakin’ year.  These small differences often make big differences late in the season.

I must be in the minority that is fine with Jordan Phillips as DT5, if that’s what this is. 
 

He made plays in our biggest game of the season last year and while certainly with his flaws, he also makes plays.  
 

Not bad for a DT5. 
 

Now if this is something different and he’s leapfrogging Walker & Sanders or we have to cut someone like Shavers because we’re keeping 6 DT’s, then yea, I don’t get it. 
 

I say all this under the assumption we’re moving Carter .. which, of course, isn’t great in its own right and even more annoying that 90% of the fanbase hated the pick and we look more right than the FO on him. 

[BananaB]

24 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

I have nothing against Jordan Phillips and I think most of us like his personality and motor.

 

That being said, I kind of hate this.  Beane went on record about saying how the defense wasn't good enough last season, so why are we trying to bring back the pieces that couldn't get it done the last two seasons? Is Beane gonna turn on the bat signal for AJ Klein or Eli Ankou next?

 

I would rather have the rookies take snaps early on in the season and make mental mistakes than have a guy who knows what to do but can't get it done physically.

Saying it for a couple years now, Bills are just treading water with this staff. They are good but they are not making the improvements needed to get the job done. Holding onto some players to long and bringing back other players that were in their decline. Scared to take a step back and a try to take two steps forward  in the early future. 

Edited Monday at 02:09 PM by BananaB