McDermott - "Still looking for that other safety"

[Mat68]

6 hours ago, SCBills said:

The Safety play this preseason has been comical.   Theres not one positive thing I can take away from these two games aside from the potential of Jordan Hancock next year because McDermott won’t play him with his ultra-complicated wizard level Safety requirements. 

The Safety play last season was not.  Hamlin keeps the Bills from being multiple.  I think Bishop is shaky but not long ago Benard terrified the fan base.  12 snaps in preseason isnt the end.  Actual game planning for an opponent could help the group and the communication of the secondary as a whole.   

[MasterStrategist]

6 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

I think best case scenario this turns out like a couple years ago where MLB was an open competition throughout camp, and no one knew Bernard would end up ready to be the starter bc he had been injured.  If Bishop could just get healthy and then some consistency in terms of reps, I think the coaching staff believes he can take on the starting role.  But he really hasn’t earned it yet either.

100%, and I've said this a few times as well.

 

Now will it turn out like that?  Hopefully.

 

These public comments by Coach are his way of "pushing" these guys.  He and Beane have done this numerous times, until guys start to be consistent.

 

I think consistency is the biggest issue with Bishop right now, and a major reason for that has been lack of reps/injury.

 

I cant wait for Bishop to ball out starting week 1 --- said the same about Keon this spring. Bishop has looked alot better at camp, just cant stay on the field.  Hes worked his butt off this offseason, just needs to stay healthy and we will see good things from him soon enough.

[Augie]

If @HOUSE has been pitching open tryouts with a modest processing fee, I suggest caution. Just sayin’

 

😊

[Rousseauisnoschmo]

6 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

If they lose to Baltimore which is certainly possible then the pressure to go win at MetLife in week 2 will be huge. The games there have been close in recent years. The Bills are 1-2 in their last 3 trips at the Meadowlands.

They will be fine.

[TBBills Fan]

I played safety in HS. Overnighted my tape to McBeane Monday.  And yes, it is VCR tape.  

 

It's gonna be alright, I know they will call me and I come cheap 

[Simon]

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

Safety is probably the most important position in McDermott's defense

 

C'mon, man.

In the 100+ year history of football, there has never been a defense where safety was anywhere near the most important position.

In the vast majority of defenses it's probably one of the 2-3 least important positions.

[That's No Moon]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

C'mon, man.

In the 100+ year history of football, there has never been a defense where safety was anywhere near the most important position.

In the vast majority of defenses it's probably one of the 2-3 least important positions.

I'm pretty sure that's out of McDermotts mouth but I don't have a quote handy. Brian Dawkins was 100 percent the most important player on Jim Johnson/McDermott era Eagles. There not even a close #2.

Edited Wednesday at 12:02 AM by That's No Moon

[YattaOkasan]

4 hours ago, balln said:

I’ll Help you. RAPP and HAMLIN. 
 

rapp got roasted v Denver on deep shot td 

 

he’s a replacement level starter. 
 

pff thinks he’s worse. 55 grade for 2024. Yikes

 

 

I am not defending Hamlin. I was pointing out the games we truly got throttled were when Rapp was out. Not saying his above average even. Just that when he’s not in it gets super ugly. That’s indirectly saying Hamlin was not good. Hoping for bishop to improve but it don’t look great at the moment. 

[QCity]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

C'mon, man.

In the 100+ year history of football, there has never been a defense where safety was anywhere near the most important position.

In the majority of defenses it's probably one of the 2-3 least important positions.

 

I would comment that it's the least important position, but I know people would interpret that as me saying it isn't important at all.

 

Check the average NFL salaries by position, the money will tell you what's important.

[Simon]

5 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Brian Dawkins was 100 percent the most important player on Jim Johnson/McDermott era Eagles.

 

He may have been the best player, but there were at least half dozen guys in front of him that were far more important to the outcome of the play on any given snap.

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said:

and yet ... Forrest is no where to be seen

One was signed by Whaley, the other signed by Beane.

[BillsFan130]

17 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

I would comment that it's the least important position, but I know people would interpret that as me saying it isn't important at all.

 

Check the average NFL salaries by position, the money will tell you what's important.

This ^. We can debate all we want, but NFL salaries will tell you what  coaches/GMs think are most important.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Bishop is lost out there. No feel for the game.   Call we say BUST yet?

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:

Where’d you hear that? I’d actually be happy with this 

 

It’s my interpretation.  
 

If he felt they had a problem that only going outside the organization would resolve he wouldn’t be saying essentially that publicly 3 weeks before the season starts.   
 

This actually makes me confident they have a solution - whether it’s Hancock or Bishop.  

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

8 hours ago, Low Positive said:

Or a shot across the bow meant to motivate.

or a shot at Beane…”Get me some damn players!!!”

 

[Turf Toejam 34]

7 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

If they were going to bring in another veteran safety I guess the one tradeable chip they have that teams would actually want would be ryan vandermark if Buffalo is actually willing to move him.

 

I think after Sunday who is giving up anything for RVD?    

[Brand J]

47 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

I'm pretty sure that's out of McDermotts mouth but I don't have a quote handy. Brian Dawkins was 100 percent the most important player on Jim Johnson/McDermott era Eagles. There not even a close #2.

I know McD has said that safety “is the most challenging position to learn in our defense.” And I remember that quote because it took me by surprise. I would’ve thought MLB was the most challenging with all its responsibilities.

[CSBill]

8 hours ago, Bockeye said:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/buffalo-bills/news/buffalo-bills-may-pursue-all-pro-safety-after-38-0-loss-bears-justin-simmons-atlanta-falcons-denver-broncos-damar-hamlin-cole-bishop/e2466385d11a2b7d26a06442

 

This would be a great move at this point. 

 

Why hasn't he been signed already? Get it done Beane.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

I'm pretty sure that's out of McDermotts mouth but I don't have a quote handy. Brian Dawkins was 100 percent the most important player on Jim Johnson/McDermott era Eagles. There not even a close #2.

Luke Kuechly was the most important player in McDermott's Carolina defense. And no, there wasn't even a close 2nd there either. 

[Beck Water]

9 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Bad sign for Bishop:

 

 

 

Now that was a Shot Across the Bow

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

I'm pretty sure that's out of McDermotts mouth but I don't have a quote handy. Brian Dawkins was 100 percent the most important player on Jim Johnson/McDermott era Eagles. There not even a close #2.

 

I believe McDermott said it's the hardest position to learn in his defense (I would have thought that would be MLB, but whatdoIknow)?

 

Hardest to learn not the same as "most important"