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5 minutes ago, buffblue said:

33 mil would put him 4th after Chase, Jefferson, and Lamb. He would be tied with Metcalf in AAS who he is clearly superior to. And he would be above Brown (Det), Brown (Phi), Aiyuk, and Higgins - 2 of which is he is better than and 2 of which he isn't. It is a perfectly reasonable request.

The oldest guy on your list is AJ Brown and he's 28 and an absolute blue chip #1. Six of those players are 26 or younger. Terry will be 30 this year. It's not black and white to them. I agree you do the deal because they have a real chance this year but perhaps they don't have as much concern over the window they will have with Daniels being Year 2. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Man if the financials really are possible then that is really tempting.

 

 It really isn't. That guy is notorious for his clown shoes cap analysis. I'm sure Washington is dying to get Samuel back 😂

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2 minutes ago, Gambit said:

I'm curious to why so many are saying he's so much better than DK? Their stats are pretty identical. 

McLaurin can run a full route tree and has produced with garbage at qb and no other weapons around him. Metcalf is a one trick pony who played with near prime Russell Wilson and was complemented by a solid number 2 option in Lockett.

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1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

My thought is like $33M but they can make it work pretty easily as Greg illustrated. If they made that move, an undefeated season and Super Bowl is on the table. They’d be ridiculous.


Our offense was #2 in the league last year in points per game (and this is playing games in snowy Buffalo). Scoring wasn’t really the problem. It was the other side of the ball.

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Just now, DapperCam said:


Our offense was #2 in the league last year in points per game (and this is playing games in snowy Buffalo). Scoring wasn’t really the problem. It was the other side of the ball.

It wasn’t a problem until it was (kind of like the defense). Their offense was bottled up vs. the Ravens at 4.6 yards per play. Turnovers saved them. They were outgained 5.8 yards per play to 5.5 yards per play vs. the Chiefs. You aren’t trading for McLaurin to beat the Jags 54-10 instead of 47-10. You’re trading for him to get over the hump in the playoffs. Giving Josh more weapons is more important than anything. He’s the reason you’ll win, not adding rotational defensive linemen.

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1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He’s making a fraction of his market value. The same goes for Hendrickson. I left my job in June because I thought I was making about 80% of my market value. McLaurin is making maybe 65% of his. 
 

We need to stop pretending “quality of team” is a lead factor on a player’s decision making in 2025. It is A factor but nowhere near as big of a factor as guaranteed money and total contract. People long for yesteryear when guys wanted to play for a winner. Sure a guy may play for a winner for $1M instead of a loser for $1.1M but when you’re talking about $22M vs. $33M that’s WAY more of a factor. Can we all agree to not begrudge guys for wanting to make market value? That’s what every single one of us does.

I’m not getting my hopes up but if I’m Beane, I already have an offer on the table  (with room to add more if a trade is possible). It would be the old Mario Williams “don’t let him leave the building” approach. I just don’t think that he’s going anywhere.

 

I agree with a lot of your points but I just have a bad vibe about it. I like the player like I said. My personal hope is that players kind of deal with this stuff behind the scenes. Let the agents take care of it now not let it get out into the media. 

 

I don't like it when stuff gets out into the media. Seems childish and unprofessional. 

 

I think the Hendrixson t thing is more exaggerated. I mean the guy is literally on an all-time great pass rush run -2 17 sacks seasons in a row. Plus I think there were more promises behind the scenes there. 

 

I would hope the bills could score this guy. But I'm just uneasy about this. 

 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

You'd think a team like the Chargers make a move for him as have cap room and no real threats in the passing game.


Good shout. They’re too 6 of cap space. If not then, the Patriots/Seahawks/Raiders out of the rest of the 6 could use him and have the $. 
 

Raiders probably won’t due to the recent Adams debacle. Patriots don’t like giving up high draft picks, especially with where they’re at. 
 

Seahawks could use him and have shown they’re willing to trade to make the team better. Outside of JSN, they’re reliant on Cooper Kipp being healthy and a bunch of unproven talent. 

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1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

I agree with a lot of your points but I just have a bad vibe about it. I like the player like I said. My personal hope is that players kind of deal with this stuff behind the scenes. Let the agents take care of it now not let it get out into the media. 

 

I don't like it when stuff gets out into the media. Seems childish and unprofessional. 

 

I think the Hendrixson t thing is more exaggerated. I mean the guy is literally on an all-time great pass rush run -2 17 sacks seasons in a row. Plus I think there were more promises behind the scenes there. 

 

I would hope the bills could score this guy. But I'm just uneasy about this. 

 

 

 

 

I think that the agents are often (or usually) the ones to surface it. That adds pressure to the team. No one thinks that Metcalf deserves $33M and $22M for McLaurin (or whatever). By floating that, the agent gets support from the public and it forces the front office’s hand. He doesn’t really want to be traded (Hendrickson either). They just use that as further leverage. If NFL contracts were guaranteed you wouldn’t see these disputes. You don’t see it in MLB, NBA or NHL (anywhere near as often).

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53 minutes ago, DapperCam said:


Our offense was #2 in the league last year in points per game (and this is playing games in snowy Buffalo). Scoring wasn’t really the problem. It was the other side of the ball.

 

You say that, yet against KC, we got the ball back in Josh's hands with 3:30 left + timeouts, and got nowhere... 2nd time in 2 years where the offense had an opportunity with the ball in Josh's hands.

 

People talk about our offense like there's no room for major improvements, but that's just not true. 

 

Yes, our D has been bad in the playoffs, but why do we keep trusting McDermott to get his side of the ball right, despite his constant failure to do so, rather than giving our best player more support?

 

Imagine how much better they'd be with more talent! They tried with Diggs, and he was instrumental in Josh's improvement, but he never was a game changer in those big playoff games. 

 

Meanwhile, people expect the "defensive-minded" HC who couldn't get his D to protect a lead for 13 seconds, who wasted numerous early picks on defensive players who haven't been relevant in the playoffs, who had All Pro players at both safety positions, LB & CB, to suddenly figure out with new players?

 

Adding an unselfish & great all-around talent like Terry to THIS offense would be amazing. Dude is like the modern day Eric Moulds, only with even worse QB play up until last year. 

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Posted (edited)

If we didn't trade for Metcalf there's no way they're trading for an older guy who wants a similar contract.  I think once he writes a goodbye letter to fans the Commanders will come to an agreement.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

If we didn't trade for Metcalf there's no way they're trading for an older guy who wants a similar contract.  I think once he writes a goodbye letter to fans the Commanders will come to an agreement.

I think that this is fair but there are some differences. I believe McLaurin is a little better player. He’s also WAY more of a fit culturally. I think that I agree with the age part. I don’t think Washington has any interest in trading McLaurin either. The Seahawks have JSN as their new number 1. Washington doesn’t have that guy and are a Super Bowl contender. No Super Bowl contender is going to trade a top 10 WR to make fat Deebo their number 1. 

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