WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Low risk high reward. We should have a better WR room purely on development and return from injury but this sounds like a Hollins level replacment 2 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 34 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: So beat them all out and there wont be a problem, won't hurt him if he's good enough. Any one of these WR's other than Shakircan win those outside WR spots imo, time to earn it. Well it’s more than just that I get your what you’re saying though. They’re not going to not play Coleman as he’s a high draft pick and Samuel is going to be on the roster because his contract will dictate that. They paid Palmer solid # 3 money so Shavers opportunity is Moore and maybeeee Samuel Quote
The Wiz Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago The twitterverse is getting so bad regarding "WGR vs Beane" I almost want to start going into the political threads. 1 2 Quote
papazoid Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago i knew he'd take our deal.....good move for both him and the bills 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Our most receptions last year was Shakir with 76. Next highest was Kincaid at 44... There's no way Moore is getting more than 80. First he has to make the team. The amount of guaranteed money will determine how likely he is to make the roster. IMO he doesn’t sign with Buffalo without having a reasonable assurance. I think he takes a lot of snaps on the outside, especially considering that I don’t think will see a different version of Keon Coleman than we saw last season 47 minutes ago, Redblood said: Word is that coleman has added muscle this yr. Maybe he can be stronger on contested balls His problem was route running and not getting separation a lot more than it was missing contested catches. Quote
Nihilarian Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Special K said: I think it explains exactly why he acted that way on the radio show......2 radio guys who only have half the information are dogging him for not drafting a WR, when Beane already had a plan in place if the receivers he wanted did not fall to him in the draft. He was basically telling them "I am thinking 4 steps ahead of you......don't assume I don't know what I am doing because I didn't do the thing you wanted me to do." Agreed! He probably signed him to shut everyone up, as even USA Today in their power rankings stated that the Bills should have drafted a WR! Most Bills fans have been bleating endlessly about how the weakest part of the team is the WR corps. The thing is that Tom Brady and the Patriots spent a decade without that superstar #1 WR. The Earnhardt-Perkins scheme that the Patriots used to run and Buffalo utilize that strong run game and move the chains passing game until they reach the end zone, and then punch it in...same at the SB winning Patriots. How did the Bengals fare last season with their two elite WRs? The 49ers? The Dolphins with super speedster Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle with paying their QB, receivers so much that the rest of the team is lacking. The very last thing this team needs is a diva WR like Diggs who wants all the passes his way and still complains. Been there, done that! 2 1 Quote
Yobogoya! Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 9 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Low risk high reward. We should have a better WR room purely on development and return from injury but this sounds like a Hollins level replacment No one can ever replace Mack Hollins (in our hearts) 😭 Quote
2003Contenders Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Welp. Already started. 🤣 Maybe I am missing something but Shakir, Coleman and Samuel were all on the team last year. Hollins is gone and has ostensibly been replaced by Palmer. Amari Cooper is gone and now potentially replaced by Moore. So not sure why Clay seems to think there is not enough room for all of them. 3 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Kind of amazing how different this team is than drought teams. Back then, we might have one great receiver, two passable guys, and barely 2-3 more to round it out. If someone got injured, we would be in a tough spot. Now, we will have to cut probably 3 guys who can probably start or get meaningful snaps for other teams. 2 Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Well it’s more than just that I get your what you’re saying though. They’re not going to not play Coleman as he’s a high draft pick and Samuel is going to be on the roster because his contract will dictate that. They paid Palmer solid # 3 money so Shavers opportunity is Moore and maybeeee Samuel If you can't beat those guys you don't deserve a roster spot to be honest. 1 Quote
papazoid Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 yr / worth up to $5 mil.......that means lots of incentive bonuses Quote
HappyDays Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, JohnNord said: IMO he doesn’t sign with Buffalo without having a reasonable assurance. Meh there's no assurances for low cost reclamation projects signed after the draft. I'm sure he signed here mainly because there's a clear path to making the roster and producing with an elite QB, not because we guaranteed him a bunch of money. I'd definitely make him the favorite for the #5 spot right now. Edited 10 hours ago by HappyDays Quote
Dr. Who Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Kind of amazing how different this team is than drought teams. Back then, we might have one great receiver, two passable guys, and barely 2-3 more to round it out. If someone got injured, we would be in a tough spot. Now, we will have to cut probably 3 guys who can probably start or get meaningful snaps for other teams. At WR? Not a chance. Right now, they are bare minimum above the threshold for NFL caliber. And we don't have one great receiver. Shakir is the best. He is in the good/very good range. He seems superlative in comparison to the rest of the receiver room. Edited 10 hours ago by Dr. Who Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) So we have 6 receivers on the roster all 6’ 1” or under. In fact we only have two receivers over 6’ 1” and that Shavers and the 7th round rookie. This is going to be fun to watch…aim small miss small Josh. Edited 10 hours ago by TheWeatherMan 2 1 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Just now, 2003Contenders said: Maybe I am missing something but Shakir, Coleman and Samuel were all on the team last year. Hollins is gone and has ostensibly been replaced by Palmer. Amari Cooper is gone and now potentially replaced by Moore. So not sure why Clay seems to think there is not enough room for all of them. Because either they don't know how the bills run their offense or is just writing a story to make up a reason to contradict everything that has been being said the last 72 hours. Either way, It's likely going to be Coleman, Shakir and two others fighting for the WR3 and WR4 job. Bills did switch to a heavier run offense this year and I expect that to continue so it's likely going to be either a TE or added OL as the extra WR (assuming they are keeping a RB in on those downs). So WR4 isn't as important but is still good to have depth wise. Quote
khlax3 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) I don’t get why people are writing him off like he is gonna be lucky to make this team. Cleveland put a tender on him that guaranteed him 3.4 million this year so he will likely make more or close to that in guaranteed money. He is an equivalent player to John brown and Cole Beasley when they joined the bills here are the starts for all 3 for the 4 years prior to joining the bills: Moore- joined bill at age 25 200 catches 2162 yards 9tds Beasley- joined bills at age 30 228 catches 2355 yards 17 tds Brown- joined bills at age 29 167 catches 2534 yards 17 tds Moore is just getting to his prime while brown and Beasley put up similar numbers during their prime Edited 10 hours ago by khlax3 4 2 1 1 Quote
Einstein Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 16 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Low risk high reward. We should have a better WR room purely on development and return from injury but this sounds like a Hollins level replacment Im confused why we didn’t keep Hollins I think NE signed him for about the same? 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Just now, Einstein said: Im confused why we didn’t keep Hollins He's a rambling man. Has to go to new places to preach the shoeless gospel. 1 4 Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: Im confused why we didn’t keep Hollins Cheaper and provided a red zone target. Quote
Chuck Schick Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Kind of amazing how different this team is than drought teams. Back then, we might have one great receiver, two passable guys, and barely 2-3 more to round it out. If someone got injured, we would be in a tough spot. Now, we will have to cut probably 3 guys who can probably start or get meaningful snaps for other teams. Man, remember those teams when it was like Week 12? We were usually 5-7 and still mathematically alive….but the dudes they had to trot out onto the field when the starter got injured were just so bad. 1 Quote
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