transient Posted March 31 Posted March 31 I heard McVay called Roseman a "pancake eatin' mother******" at the breakfast buffet, and when Roseman looked up and asked who said that, when someone said Sean, McVay pointed to McDermott. 🤷♂️ 2 Quote
Just in Atlanta Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Do we not run our own version of the tush push frequently with very good success with exception of the Kansas City playoff game? His aggressive take on this topic is bizarre and seems really illogical. Quote
Nineforty Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) "Bills head coach Sean McDermott is a member of the NFL’s Competition Committee and said he is in favor of a “proactive” move against the play for health an safety reasons." https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-coaches-share-varied-opinions-about-proposed-tush-push-ban _____________________________ Jason Kelce has talked about the play being gruelling on a Centers body, but he does not think it leads to more injuries, for whatever that is worth. I am a mixed bag. I dont like the play. I dont like the current rationale for removing it. I do like my coach being willing to vote according to his loyalty to the game, and not the team, first. At least thats my view of it (Im also confident McD doesnt do this without talking to Beane, Pegula, Josh, and McGovern) Edited March 31 by Nineforty Quote
BuffaloBill Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 2:04 PM, Bongo said: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-coaches-share-varied-opinions-about-proposed-tush-push-ban I think this is likely why. Expand I’ve heard McDermott say he is concerned with injury possibilities. Quote
chris heff Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 1:58 PM, Prospector said: Was there colorful language? Expand McDermott said something like “Jiminy Crickets” or “gosh darn it”. 1 Quote
wppete Posted March 31 Posted March 31 McDermott is getting involved in too many outside things. He should just be focused on making the Bills better and winning and leaving the rules decisions to the GM, Owner or others. 1 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 3:20 PM, Just in Atlanta said: Do we not run our own version of the tush push frequently with very good success with exception of the Kansas City playoff game? His aggressive take on this topic is bizarre and seems really illogical. Expand Because he takes his "job" seriously. He's the kind of person that stops at red lights playing Grand Theft Auto. 4 Quote
balln Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Another red flag sign for McD. He wants “our best play” on short yardage to go away? I want a new head coach. I want a new head coach. I want a new head coach 1 1 Quote
BillsVet Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 3:01 PM, WotAGuy said: How about drafting some big-ass lineman to stop it? Expand McD is just upset that an admin type GM like Roseman is better at finding DT's than he is. Quote
balln Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 4:53 PM, BillsVet said: McD is just upset that an admin type GM like Roseman is better at finding DT's than he is. Expand McD looks in the community centers and soup kitchens across the country looking for that 5th year coach on the field type while roseman just goes to Athens GA 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 3:20 PM, Just in Atlanta said: Do we not run our own version of the tush push frequently with very good success with exception of the Kansas City playoff game? His aggressive take on this topic is bizarre and seems really illogical. Expand Yes, it's the Eagles and Bills. Those 2 teams used it more last season than all 30 other teams combined. I guess he thinks we'd get the same results with just Josh? Quote
Mikie2times Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 2:24 PM, MJS said: You don't know that he does. Expand He said he doesn't think the play is safe. 1 Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Normal cycle in sports. 1970s: the "bump and run" stifles passing games. Nobody had ever thought about playing CB that way until some guys (I remember the name Jimmy Marsalis) started doing it. It wasn't against the rules, but it was messing with the game. The NFL outlawed it. 2024 MLB: the defensive shift was messing with the game as we'd always played it. Nobody had ever though of playing 3 guys on the right side of the infield against lefty hitters until some clever analytics nerd suggested it would work and it wasn't against the rules. A few years later everyone was doing it. It changed the game in a way that most fans didn't like, so it was banned. The tush push was illegal as "aiding the runner" when I was a kid. In the early part of the 2000s the NFL changed the rule (why?) but it took about 15 years for some clever coach (probably analytics nerd to be honest) thought about exploiting the rule change. To me it's made the game less interesting, more predictable as that 4th and 1 is automatic. (Or at least it was until we decided it requires the QB to go left) I'd rather see Jalen Hurts or Josh Allen rollout and make a great athletic play. Or a defender make a great athletic play to stop it. Ban it. 3 Quote
Mikie2times Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 5:07 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Normal cycle in sports. 1970s: the "bump and run" stifles passing games. Nobody had ever thought about playing CB that way until some guys (I remember the name Jimmy Marsalis) started doing it. It wasn't against the rules, but it was messing with the game. The NFL outlawed it. 2024 MLB: the defensive shift was messing with the game as we'd always played it. Nobody had ever though of playing 3 guys on the right side of the infield against lefty hitters until some clever analytics nerd suggested it would work and it wasn't against the rules. A few years later everyone was doing it. It changed the game in a way that most fans didn't like, so it was banned. The tush push was illegal as "aiding the runner" when I was a kid. In the early part of the 2000s the NFL changed the rule (why?) but it took about 15 years for some clever coach (probably analytics nerd to be honest) thought about exploiting the rule change. To me it's made the game less interesting, more predictable as that 4th and 1 is automatic. (Or at least it was until we decided it requires the QB to go left) I'd rather see Jalen Hurts or Josh Allen rollout and make a great athletic play. Or a defender make a great athletic play to stop it. Ban it. Expand 100%, 4th and 1 or 3rd and 1 is one of the most exciting plays in football. Not anymore. Get rid of the damn thing. 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 1:50 PM, SoonerBillsFan said: Beane has hinted this offseason he wants it gone. Expand Really? Why? I get we had a "failure" (was a 1st down), but that play has done more good than bad against us. I cant even think of an instance weve faced it other than Philly? If you dont like Josh taking a beating, take it outta the gameplan except pure emergencies. Dont see how this helps us at all On 3/31/2025 at 2:04 PM, Bongo said: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-coaches-share-varied-opinions-about-proposed-tush-push-ban I think this is likely why. Expand "Health concerns" LOL you mean QB injury concerns?? Find someone else that can run the play and sub Josh. Its the ultimate football play, we dont have a football guy? Give Ray Davis reps, and line up Cook or whoever behind him. The threat of a pass on that play isnt "real" Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 2:37 PM, K-9 said: I never liked that they made assisting the runner by pushing legal in 2005. Why not allow pulling the runner as well? Expand They mustve got lenient with it, ive seen Dawkins do it for sure and was lost i thought it was illegal On 3/31/2025 at 3:00 PM, SectionC3 said: It will shift to using a TE in that spot for a lot of teams and running it like an old school sneak. That’s where short yardage is headed. Expand Bingo! Bring back the Alstott character pleaseeeeee Quote
DJB Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 1:44 PM, Bongo said: What happens at the owner’s meeting is supposed to stay at the owner’s meeting Expand Robert Kraft has entered the chat 2 Quote
K-9 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 5:52 PM, BillsShredder83 said: They mustve got lenient with it, ive seen Dawkins do it for sure and was lost i thought it was illegal Expand It is illegal. Just like all the other illegal things are that don’t always get called. In 2005, when they legalized pushing, they should have also legalized pulling, too, to remove any ambiguity. Personally, I don’t like runners being assisted by either. On 3/31/2025 at 5:54 PM, DJB said: Robert Kraft has entered the chat Expand Quote
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