Brand J Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The cap is going up like crazy so contracts are going up. Cap is projected to jump again. Elite QBs will get about 20% of the cap. They already get more than that. It was hovering around 24% a year ago, whereas in 2010 it was closer to 16%. Contracts go up, but that’s entirely based on position. RB for example hasn’t increased and takes up a lower percentage of the cap than in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Goff is somehow both overrated and underrated. I'm not entirely sure what to think of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 8 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: I’d put him in the top 10-12. You could do far worse and he has helped make Detroit relevant again. I’m a fan of his I would say that’s a fair range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 29 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Exactly this. Why wouldn't they pay their franchise QB the going rate? His guarantee isn't even top 5 now. It will seem like peanuts in 2 years with the ever exploding cap. Why isn't this a smart move? There’s always shock value every year because worse players get paid more than the top players. But it’s always based on cap %. Burrow got 24%. Goff got 21%. When Mahomes signed his $45 million AAV deal he got 23%. So Burrow did get a little more. When Allen signed his deal he got 24%, but the cap was low due to covid. Allen would’ve got more. If Allen signed a deal today he probably gets $61 million AAV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 15 minutes ago, Brand J said: They already get more than that. It was hovering around 24% a year ago, whereas in 2010 it was closer to 16%. Contracts go up, but that’s entirely based on position. RB for example hasn’t increased and takes up a lower percentage of the cap than in the past. The % does seem to go up slightly every year for QBs. I wonder when it stops? Maybe it stopped with Allen’s deal? He got 24% and Burrow got 24% 2 years later. No one has topped that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 The Kirk Cousins QB career path is if nothing else a profitable one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The % does seem to go up slightly every year for QBs. I wonder when it stops? Maybe it stopped with Allen’s deal? He got 24% and Burrow got 24% 2 years later. No one has topped that yet. Can’t remember where it was that I heard it, but Beane sounded like he was in favor of some sort of QB salary cap rules. He said something along the lines of “yeah, these QB contracts are getting a bit out there…” EDIT: I do remember it came while discussing the approach to deciding who to pay when you’ve got a QB making as much as Josh (and Allen might not even be in the top 10 anymore!). It’s a quandary, you can’t win without a top QB, but their contracts make building a team challenging. Edited May 13 by Brand J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 53 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: How many more years are currently on Josh’s deal? He is under contract through the 2028 season. This is only year 2 of his 6-year extension. The average would be signing his next after the 2026 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I think he is slightly underrated. Always has been. I remember the heat I took on here after their rookie seasons for saying Goff's tape was better than Wentz's and that the results being skewed the other way was about circumstance not their abilities. He isn't the 2nd best QB in the league, obviously. But the QB market is the QB market. Either you have a guy and therefore when he comes due your are paying him top 3 or 4 money in AAV or you don't. They are the only twp options as Minnesota's failed attempt to keep Cousins this offseason showed. He is about to turn 36 coming off a major injury and the Vikings offered him what they thought that was worth and were blown out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 hours ago, Special K said: I live in Florida, but its an easy answer that I would rather live in the Buffalo area over the Detroit area Detroit is a great place. People are awesome. You all should check it out sometime. No party like a Detroit party!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 hours ago, skibum said: He could buy the entire city of Detroit with that kind of money. but then he couldn’t sell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Still boggles the mind that after Tua, Dak, and now Goff. Josh Allen will be the 13th highest paid QB in football with guys like Daniel Jones counting more against the cap this year. Goff deserves it he’s not Josh no one not named Patrick is but he’s solid and it’s clear the Lions have about a 2 year Super Bowl window before that division gets to be a bear to get through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 13 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Let's hope Buffalonians aren't throwing stones at Detroit. #glasshouses That being said, Goff is a very good QB. I'd say a tick above Tua. 😂 If Cleveland can, then Buffalo can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I think they're really cash-strapping the future of that franchise IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 14 hours ago, DJB said: Best part about this is that the cost for the Fish to sign Tua just went up !! Bahahahaahh I doubt Tua's contract, if Miami offers him an extension, will get close to Goff's. From what is being reported, Tua's availability and performance this season will determine if he is offered an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 11 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I think he is slightly underrated. Always has been. I remember the heat I took on here after their rookie seasons for saying Goff's tape was better than Wentz's and that the results being skewed the other way was about circumstance not their abilities. He isn't the 2nd best QB in the league, obviously. But the QB market is the QB market. Either you have a guy and therefore when he comes due your are paying him top 3 or 4 money in AAV or you don't. They are the only twp options as Minnesota's failed attempt to keep Cousins this offseason showed. He is about to turn 36 coming off a major injury and the Vikings offered him what they thought that was worth and were blown out of the water. Detroit had to do it, and it’s not an “awful” contract for a very good QB who will only turn 30 later this year. As we’ve said for years, if you don’t have a QB you’re dead in this league and Goff is absolutely good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Will Josh be expecting an extension in 2025 ? He is now not in the 10 Ten paid QBs. His current contract runs through 2028. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 13 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Yeah I’ve been seeing people celebrating Josh’s contract. He’s going to get more than everyone. Probably over $60 million when it’s all done. 4 years $2fiddyM with $1fiddyM GTD. Edited May 14 by Freddie's Dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, ganesh said: Will Josh be expecting an extension in 2025 ? He is now not in the 10 Ten paid QBs. His current contract runs through 2028. He might want to wait until the cap settle down a little. It might be $300 million in a few years. He’s already set for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, ganesh said: Will Josh be expecting an extension in 2025 ? He is now not in the 10 Ten paid QBs. His current contract runs through 2028. Goff got 170 mil. in guaranteed cash over 4 years. If Josh was getting a new 4 year contract now, he would get well 200 million guaranteed. My guess would be 250 mil. or very close to it. Jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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