Warcodered Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 5 hours ago, extrahammer said: he's trying to rebrand himself see!! Meh it's not like they pulled the GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 If Belichick was the dark overlord of the NFL, McDermott can be the light overlord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I think the OP hurt himself thinking up this topic 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 "Vacation" = Day Drinking Cheers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 7 hours ago, nucci said: what was yesterday's question? I’m ☠️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 7 hours ago, papazoid said: Belichick is a control freak...... easy for an owner to reluctantly put up with his arrogance when he is winning as evidenced by N.E. making it to the AFC Championship game 13 times from 2001-2018. as soon as the winning stops....out the door......then kraft happily sabotaging his future McClappity isn't on that level and likely never will be Nah. Bellichick definitely had no business coaching those last few years, but got a pass due to his past titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 12 hours ago, Augie said: That’s okay, it’s probably not high on his priority list. Belichick showed who he was without Brady, and he’s the one who wanted all the control. They might have a better roster if Belichick had let Nick Caserio build a team like he has in Houston, but Belichick thinks he’s smarter than everyone else. Well, that is on Belichick then. He’s the one who picked the OC’s, and he even put a DC in the role of OC. Brady was the magic on offense. I’ll give Belichick credit for having been a defensive genius, a guy who stole a SB from us because Kelly wouldn’t just keep handing the ball to Thurman. . Mcd has not even come close to winning a afccg with the best qb to ever play for Buffalo. He needs to go 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 17 hours ago, Bruffalo said: You been drinkin' on this vacation? I thought that with the original post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) By similar path, do you mean coaching for a couple of years longer than optimal, then finding no further HC interest in the league? Or do you mean winning many super bowls with a top notch QB on your team. At this point one these outcomes seems more likely than the other outcome. Edited April 18 by Chaos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 18 hours ago, extrahammer said: Hello fellow Bills fans, welcome to my question of the day, I hope you all are well and moving on from the recent Diggs stuff. I was reading this ESPN article that came out today about Belichick and him not being hired or even considered in this last NFL coaching job carousel - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39955777/how-patriots-legend-bill-belichick-end-nfl-job Is it at all possible for McD to have a similar career path? My gut overwhelmingly tells me no, but I do wonder.... Let me know your thoughts and why! Yes, in the sense that at some point, Pegula might no longer fall for McDermott's "process" scam, realize that McDermott should not be running this team, and tell fellow owners that he is a farce and a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 17 hours ago, Augie said: That’s okay, it’s probably not high on his priority list. Belichick showed who he was without Brady, and he’s the one who wanted all the control. They might have a better roster if Belichick had let Nick Caserio build a team like he has in Houston, but Belichick thinks he’s smarter than everyone else. Well, that is on Belichick then. He’s the one who picked the OC’s, and he even put a DC in the role of OC. Brady was the magic on offense. I’ll give Belichick credit for having been a defensive genius, a guy who stole a SB from us because Kelly wouldn’t just keep handing the ball to Thurman. . Same for Lombardi without Starr. Dungy without Manning. Payton without Brees........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 19 hours ago, papazoid said: show me an elite level head coach who did it without an elite level QB don't bother looking the hoodie should have swallowed his pride and rode brady til his arm fell off. the bigger mistake was thinking you could do it without replacing him with an elite level QB.....thats where his arrogance cost em Joe Gibbs with Doug Williams as his QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Gregg said: Joe Gibbs with Doug Williams as his QB. not bad, but is that about the best one anyone can come up with ?...... Williams had only started 2 regular season games in 1987 when he went 3-0 in the playoffs. The following season he only started 10. so does that really count ?.....lots of backups had brief success. Edited April 18 by papazoid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repulsif Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 29 minutes ago, Gregg said: Joe Gibbs with Doug Williams as his QB. Ravens 1st win and Buccaneers 1st win, also 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) BB won a Super Bowl by age fifty, while McD is busy underachieving with an all time talent at QB at the same point in his career. Edited April 18 by SirAndrew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 4 minutes ago, papazoid said: not bad, but is that about the best one anyone can come up with ?...... Williams had only started 2 regular season games in 1987 when he went 3-0 in the playoffs. The following season he only started 10. so does that really count ?.....lots of backups had brief success. Gibbs with Williams is the one that stands out to me. What about Harbaugh with Flacco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Same for Lombardi without Starr. Dungy without Manning. Payton without Brees........ You forgot the future “McDermott without Allen” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: You forgot the future “McDermott without Allen” no rings, no future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Same for Lombardi without Starr. Dungy without Manning. Payton without Brees........ Lombardi was ~60 years ago, when passing was relatively rare and Payton was also bad with Brees. (I tend to think he’s a bit overrated.) But Tony Dungy had very competitive teams without Manning, unlike Belichick who is last in the division without Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 5 minutes ago, Augie said: Lombardi was ~60 years ago, when passing was relatively rare and Payton was also bad with Brees. (I tend to think he’s a bit overrated.) But Tony Dungy had very competitive teams without Manning, unlike Belichick who is last in the division without Brady. Dungy won 2 playoff games in 6 years in Tampa. BB inherited a 3-13 teams and ultimately got to the playoff and won a game with Vinny Testaverde... Bill Walsh was a genius because he retired before he had to coach again without a HOF QB (he was 8-24 with Steve DeBerg) It's always a pretty weak argument to point out a HOF HC couldn't match the success he had without his HOF QB.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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